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Vesta13
08-19-2007, 02:29 PM
I'm trying to learn horary astrology. William Lilly mentions Lord of the seventh house. Lillyjgc already gave me some insight on this. My question is now the following: What if there are 3 planets in the seventh house? Which one prevails? William Lilly says to use the Lord of the seventh (for strays and fugutives)...I'm really confused now! 3 Lords!

Can someone help me with this...

Many thanks

Vesta

archergirl
08-19-2007, 04:52 PM
Hi there,

There aren't ever three lords of a house; the ONLY lord of a house is the planet that rules the sign on the cusp of that house, unless it is the 1st house of the querent, in which case they also [often] get the Moon. So, for example, even if you have Leo on the 7th cusp, and inside the 7th house sit the Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Saturn, the Sun is the only lord of the 7th; the others are not co-rulers, or co-significators; they are visitors, and will signify other things in the chart, sometimes by what house cusps they rule in the chart, sometimes by their physical descriptions of other players in the question.

For a question regarding thieves, the Sun as Lord 7 would be the ruler of the thief; however, Mercury can also signify thieves, with its associations of quickness and cleverness. You would look for associations between Mercury and the Sun, and what they are doing. Mercury separating from the Sun could indicate more than one thief, for example, with one thief moving out of proximity with the other, or if there are translations of light between the Sun, Mercury, and whatever signifies the stolen object, the Sun may have acted as a 'fence' and passed the object on to Mercury, or vice-versa.

However, if it was a 7th house question about a marriage, for example, the Sun would represent the spouse of the querent. If Saturn, the Sun, and a retrograde Venus were all in the 7th, with Venus in-between the Sun and Saturn, with the Sun applying to Venus, you might interpret this as another person (usually a woman, or someone very attractive) getting in the way, literally, of the spouse (Sun) and the querent (Saturn), because the Sun and Venus meet before the Sun reaches Saturn.

It really is contextual, and the chart must be examined closely to see 'who' matches 'what'. Horary is remarkably straightforward; it's more literal and concrete than natal astrology, which is what makes it so wonderful. ;)

Hope this helps. If you need further clarification, just ask!

Best,
AG:)

Vesta13
08-19-2007, 06:27 PM
Thank you Archergirl. I'm sure I'll be having more questions along the way. I find that William Lilly is great but some of the wording I am not familiar with...oh it reminds me of another question. He mentions 'furlongs' :38: hehe....is he talking about degrees?


Vesta