WILLIAM LILLY - Some help please

[Vesta13]

:o Hi, I have been doing some reading about William Lilly and horary astrology as I am TRYING to learn it. I have a question. When he mentions the 'Lord of the seventh house' does he mean the planet that is in the seventh house of the chart being done or the general ruler of the seventh house? What if there are not planets in the seventh house? What do you do then? The chart I am looking at has no planets in the seventh house but the seventh house falls in the signs of Taurus and Gemini. How do we interpret this?

Sincerely,

Vesta

[lillyjgc]

Vesta: I think what is meant here is this: The ruler/lord of the sign that is on the CUSP of hs 7....so if virgo is on H7 cusp, mercury is the ruler/Lord of House 7.In your example above, If Taurus is on the cusp of H7 then VENUS rules house seven...Regardless of what planets are in that house if any...hope that clears things up for you, lillyjgc

[Vesta13]

Thanks Lillyjgc..

But like I mentioned, what if in the seventh house has both Taurus and Gemini, which prevails? Taurus is in the seventh as much as Gemini is....

Many thanks

[Kaiousei no Senshi]

Whichever Sign is on the cusp of it is the one that matters.

[Vesta13]

Thank you! I'm starting to get it...and enjoy it even more!!!:p

[lillyjgc]

Vesta13, I don't want to complicate things too much...but seeing you are asking: If the house in question has two planets involved, as in your case, you would call that house an <intercepted house>...the Lord of the house would still be Venus, if Taurus was on the cuspline, but some would say Mercury (ruler of Gemini) was a c-significator....it all depends on things like: which house system you are using, how big the intercept is (there was a chart on the forum recently where the cusp was at 29.22 so the <intercept> was in fact most of the house so I judged that chart taking the ruler of the intercepting planet as Lord ...which aroused debate,and there are different systems of astrology in use here...) so maybe read as much as you can about <interceptions> (I see them as <planet interrupting>).For now just take the cusp, and work from there.....hope that explains it a bit more clearly....best wishes, lillyjgc

[lillyjgc]

Here's a link.
http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/glossary/glossary_i.htm
lillyjgc

[archergirl]

it all depends on things like: which house system you are using, how big the intercept is (there was a chart on the forum recently where the cusp was at 29.22 so the <intercept> was in fact most of the house so I judged that chart taking the ruler of the intercepting planet as Lord

Lillyjgc is right on this (and right on that chart!;) ). It also depends on what the question is. You can sometimes use the intercepted sign as *the next thing along* when asking about a sequence of something, like one job ending and another one beginning; or not getting one job but getting the second (It isn't always the 10th from the 10th, IMO).

But for most purposes, the sign on the cusp is the ruler of that house, and you can take that as granted for 99% of the charts you'll do.:p

Best,
AG:)