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flare
08-15-2007, 06:18 PM
inappropriate

unukalhai
08-15-2007, 10:11 PM
He's a stunning demonstration of what happens when someone mishandles Mercury-Neptune energy. He has Mercury peregrine in Pisces, it's sign of debility and fall. He also has Neptune in Virgo, thus forming a mutual reception. So he has a strong link between Mercury and Neptune, and it's the only strong influence upon his Mercury. So a link is established between the logical mind (Mercury) and abstract universal/spiritual concepts (Neptune).

To this close-minded individual, religion is a "virus of the mind" and astrology is the "enemy of truth". Bin Laden was "victorious". The possibility of an integration of religion and science would be "bogus convergence". Theology is "emptiness".

It's how he chooses to display this energy that is so stunning. It would seem his intolerant rhetoric towards spirituality, religion, and all things Neptune is nothing more than a projection of his own weaknesses, and a childish display of Mars-Chiron opposed across the "security axis" of Cancer-Capricorn.

The only thing empty (and deeply wounded) here is his higher philosophical mind. Notice the Jupiter midpoints. Mercury and Jupiter are aligned with the Mars-Chiron axis via midpoint. This really isn't very surprising. Neptune is also opposed his Sun-Moon midpoint. Mars in the 10th solar house (professional/career) under Saturn's dispositorship shows the skeptic (Saturn/Capricorn) attacks (Mars). Chiron in the 4th solar house indicates his solar plexus was wounded by his early upbringing.


Born March 26, 1941 Nairobi, Kenya


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Michael
08-16-2007, 12:33 AM
That seems very convenient for you, since I'm just learning the bare basics of astrology.
This is an unconsiderate demand on your part. However as the bold person I am, so I go
forward with confidence. According to Ptolemy the quality of mind of a person depends
of mercury and the moon. His mercury is weak. His moon however is in a weak position
in pisces. However with accidental dignities it all comes fine, right?. Well maybe not.
This could be the definitive triumph of reason over unreason. Because how can such an
intelligent man, be qualified as dumb by such a disreputable a pseudoscience. Or maybe
astrology is not being done in the right way. Please someone help Dawkins chart before it's
too late.

EDIT:
I see he has sun,
venus, moon and
mercury, 4 traditional
planets, in other
words a stellium,
in his 12th house.

He makes me remember
the chart of the great
french astrologer Morin.

Michael
08-16-2007, 12:33 AM
He also has Jupiter
conjunct Saturn in
his second house.
It seems like a
powerful combination.

unukalhai
08-16-2007, 01:36 AM
That seems very convenient for you, since I'm just learning the bare basics of astrology. This is an unconsiderate demand on your
part. However as the bold person I am, so I go forward with confidence.


I'm only trying to provoke you to give it a shot... Since you respect him, I know the subject will motivate you, make your mental gears churn, which of course will only further your application of astrology... Not asking for a thesis and no grade will be issued ;)


According to Ptolemy the quality of mind of a person depends of mercury and the moon. His mercury is weak. His moon however is in a weak position in pisces. However with accidental dignities it all comes fine, right?. Well maybe not.


Dignities do help, they boost the strength of an object according to classical rules, yes.

His Moon is also slow :)


This could be the definitive triumph of reason over unreason. Because how can such an intelligent man, be qualified as dumb by such a disreputable a pseudoscience.


He sure is driven, that's for sure. Mars trine Uranus, Sun trine Pluto. Lots of energy there.


Or maybe astrology is not being done in the right way. Please someone help Dawkins chart before it's too late.


That would be roughly equivalent to helping the assailant who just stabbed you make a clean getaway :p
Anyone? :D

Arian Maverick
08-16-2007, 01:51 AM
I see he has sun,
venus, moon and
mercury, 4 traditional
planets, in other
words a stellium,
in his 12th house.

The Sun is in Aries, while Mercury, Venus, and the Moon are in Pisces; I wouldn't consider this a stellium, because the Moon sign is always a bit "iffy" in a solar chart and the positions of planets in the houses is even more unreliable.

Unfortunately, reliable times of birth seem to be elusive online :(

Arian Maverick

Shining Ray
08-16-2007, 05:12 AM
This is interesting him having Mercury in Pisces in fall. I was reading in Lyn Birkbecks book about this placement and it kind of fits him perfectly here it is.

Yours is a sensitive mind that absorbs as much much information as, if not more than it learns. Ideas and solutions seem to surface, as opposed to actually being worked out. Because of this mental osmosis you are sometimes not quite sure whether it is your mind doing the thinking. How this kind of mental receptive mentality is likely to be handled or experienced depends greatly of what kind of thinker you are generally and whether you are left brained rational or right brained intuitive. If your ego is the type that likes to maintain the illusion of being mentally in command of everything that passes through the mind you will put together a firm intellectual framework of facts and figures. Armed with this mental battery you present a formidable opponent to anyone you regard as a wooly thinker. However you are in effect opposing the sensitivity of your own mind. Because certain thoughts and notions seem to come from "somewhere else", you doubt there veracity. Eventually this leads to a form of mental exhaustion as a result of resisting your cerebral sensitivity.

If however, you are not too much concerned of whether the thought coming through your head have your ego's stamp of approval. then you let ideas stream forth, and give them some kind of inspiring and creative form. Although yours is the mind of the poet rather than the technician, your able to 'dream up' both scientific and artistic visions. You think in pictures, and can profit much through drawing from your dream life.

However the chances are that you waver somewhere between these two extremes of how Mercury in Pisces operates. But the fact remains that you are fortunate or unfortunate enough, depending on your attitude, to be in touch with the collective unconscious, which is like a vast sea of all thoughts and feelings that ever were or ever will be. Your mind like a boat, can either trust and explore this ocean of notion and ancient wisdom, or distrust it and attempt to keep it out with a mental sea wall of concrete knowledge, or with a sea mist of fantasy, evasiveness, alcohol or drug abuse.

One way or the other it would be wise to accept and to understand the channel like quality of your mind, and to always give expression to what is coming through it. Giving form to your thoughts is the correct means of maintaining mental security. Keeping them to yourself because some appear to be quite weird, will eventually make you feel quite weird yourself. (Weird literally means 'what must be'). As a sign of fluid like mentality, you are ill disposed to being pinned down to facts - other than those of your own making that is. Such 'facts' may even include this definition of Mercury in Pisces!

Let the Astrology speak for itself :D . I wonder if he would actually admit how true this interpretation of him is.

planetmotion
11-25-2007, 05:38 PM
Hello Coffee,
The delightful American psycop and magician, James Randi, has a white, well- trimmed beard? It that who you are thinking of?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Randi

Born: Aug 7 1928 Toronto, Canada, time unknown


Dawkins is English and Oxford taught, and has the clear Pisces Mercury, Venus, Moon sensitive face; his Moon is potentially opposite Neptune, and Venus definitely opposite the planet of uncharted realms. His family were normal Anglican’s, and religious apparently. Dawkin’s Sun is in a wide opposition Neptune (15 degree orbs for Sun), but the opposition is tighter, due to the Virgo Neptune conjunct a Libra North Node. He also has the signature of the rebellious genius: with a stellium of Taurean heavy-weights, Saturn, Jupiter and Uranus (no wonder he likes to work hard at challenging what he considers real), this stellium is in a grand to trine Neptune and Mars - he HAS to challenge something; so why not, in true archetypal, fashion challenge what his family patriarch holds true? Such as faith in a cosmic ‘other ‘, he is a self-confessed atheist and God (or whatever) is a subject he obviously grapples with daily! I quite like the chap. He’s done some good science with the memes. But is a bit of an agressive Aries terrier when he gets his teeth into Astrology though, and much more emotional than Randi, who is the unflappable Mr I’m-in-charge Leo!

mdinaz
11-25-2007, 05:45 PM
I didn't look at the chart or anything, but I've noticed that just before scientists turn to the "dark side" (come to the realization that God does indeed exist and there are much bigger things outside of them and science), they usually go on a great attack of self-denial. They do this because to accept God and the workings of the spirit world would be to invalidate their entire careers and everything they've supported up to this point. It's a last ditch effort to maintain what currently exists while at the same time denying what they know deep down inside is the real truth. Some carry on the charade longer than others, but eventually something hits them and they make the transition. Science, astrology, and spirituality are not mutually exclusive as they think they are.

GeminiSagRising
10-26-2008, 02:25 AM
I think he's very intelligent and very well educated, but also very close minded.

Spungie
03-12-2009, 01:19 AM
This man may portray the right brain and spirituality as delusional, but it is in fact his own delusions that are his downfall.
The time will come...
Bless his aries spirit...