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Liona1
08-12-2007, 07:45 PM
What do you think about this which is soon coming to pass in my chart which interest me.

I have Mars in Capricorn in second house (birth placement), Moon in Taurus in 6th house (birth placement) and in the beginning of september (very soon) I will have Saturn in Virgo and Venus in Virgo in 9th house (making a sextile to my birth Uranus in Scorpio in 11th house and sextile in my Saturn in Cancer in 8th house). And there will be a opposing Jupiter in Pisces with conjuncting transiting Uranus in Pisces in 3rd house. This Jupiter-Uranus is a part of my birth Grand Trine of Water. With Saturn in Cancer in 8th house and Uranus in Scorpio in 11th house.

Grand trine (with nice sextiles to birth Uranus and birth Saturn) but with malefic transiting Saturn-Venus conjunct. What are the possibel effects?

I will have a situation in my life relating to this which already I knwo about but the question is will it be resolved beneficially for me or will it mean I will be hurt in it? What do you think?

Also it is interesting that at the moment there is 4 planets in Leo: Saturn, Sun, Mercury and Venus (making sextiles to my Pluto in Libra in 10th house). My Chiron is in Aries and Neptune in Sagittarius with transiting Jupiter. Thus making again a Grand Trine. I ahvent been having an easy time lately. I wonder why is that... Is Grand Trine really always beneficial?

What are your opinions about it?

Liona1
08-14-2007, 02:44 PM
Doesn t anybody want to comment on this at all or does it mean something really horrible and nobody wants to say it?

I know that Saturn-venus conjunct is bad and Grand Trine makes the energy flow easily so does it make the the "difficult" energy stronger or something? I am not quite sure about it.

wilsontc
08-14-2007, 07:13 PM
Liona,

You are talking about too much "astro stuff" for people to keep it all in their heads. Post the chart and we can see what you are talking about.

Needing clearer info,

Tim

Liona1
08-14-2007, 08:18 PM
Yeah, I understand that point and I did try my best with it. I am just such a dummy with computers and could not get the chart sent no matter how much I tried with it... I am pretty sure that no further trying will help with it. It just finally says "too big file" in the end. I can give you the time of birth and so on. 22nd of January 1975, Forssa, Finland. Exact time 04.36 AM.

wilsontc
08-15-2007, 04:35 AM
Liona,

You don't have a Grand Trine in your birth chart. Your planets have a lot of squares (energy needs to be adjusted by) to each other, but no oppositions. The squares indicate you need to "work things out", and the lack of oppositions indicates you are not born with things "opposing you". So when oppositions happen by transit (moving planets in the sky), they feel like a surprise and cause you a lot of concern.

I only look at the planets Jupiter and outward, so the first opposition that matters occurs in December, when transiting Saturn (duty, also authority) focused in the 9th house (expansion, also wisdom) opposes (energy is over-excited by) birth Jupiter (expansion, also wisdom). So that could be a time when a teacher in authority is critical about your understanding and knowledge. This could also be an excellent time to learn something from authority figures. Your choice which one you want! :)

Giving a choice,

Tim

Liona1
08-15-2007, 06:58 AM
Oh thank you so much for your comment!! I already know that most likelyyou are right about that one... Do you have any comments about how will it end for me because it might actually be a bad one? Will I get wiped the floor with or what happens?

I will get transiting Pluton on top of my birth Mars in January in second house in Capricorn but in trine with that transiting Saturn in Virgo. Will I be safe or get kicked in the ***?

I am just wondering isnt my Uranus in Scorpio, Saturn in Cancer and Jupiter in Pisces a Grand Trine in Water in birth chart? Also Mars in Capricorn and Moon in Taurus will get transiting Saturn in Virgo to complement them in the beginning of September. What will happen with that one? Does it matter?

I have planets in every sign now expect in Virgo and soon I will have Saturn in there too. Does this matter?

Or is it like Grand Trine is considered only if the planets are in 5 degrees orb?

Thanks a lot for the comments!

wilsontc
08-15-2007, 06:29 PM
Liona,

I believe that, if we understand the energies coming up in advance, we can do something with them when they arrive. So there is no point "predicting", instead it is an issue of USING the energies as well as we can.

Transiting (moving planets in the sky) Pluto (outer world money) conjuncting (energy is combined with) birth Mars (being, also action) focused in the 2nd house (personal money):
This could be used to help you refinance or take actions at resolving personal debt

Having planets in many signs is an indication of a "scatter chart": many interests but not focusing on any area in particular.

Having 3 planets in Material signs (i.e., Taurus, Capricorn, and Virgo), indicates strong energy in being practical.

I use a five degree orb (how far away a planet can be and still be in aspect) for trines to most planets and give 2 more degrees for the Sun and Moon (i.e., a 7 degree orb).

Commenting,

Tim