Mars Square Jupiter

[Circe]

Hi! You know a lot of people love to talk about themselves... I`m not soooo used to it, but my most common natal chart doubts are more about mine than the others`.
Well, Here I have my aspect, Jupiter square mars. And I have my own interpretation but I feel I`m missing something.

The truth is that I kind of hate my father, the relationship I have with him is messy, confusing and always arguing. Sometimes be behave like real enemies. I can see this in the aspect, but because Jupiter is in my ASC I want to know if this could possibly influence my out-personality, and in what way.
I though it would be common for me to have bad relations with other men, but the thing is that I have better relation with men than women.:eek:

Anyway, I`d like to know if there`s something else that I could see in it too.

Thank you so much!:)

(I have my natal chart in my archive)

[Squapius]

Muy bien. Te ayudaré.
Con un programa que tengo, he calculado tu carta para que tengas una vista más clara y completa de ella. Si deseas verla, puedes buscarla en mis imágenes y descargarla (Son los dos archivos que allí se encuentran).
Te diré lo que creo de tu aspecto cuando contestes este mensaje.

[Circe]

Muy bien. Te ayudaré.
Con un programa que tengo, he calculado tu carta para que tengas una vista más clara y completa de ella. Si deseas verla, puedes buscarla en mis imágenes y descargarla (Son los dos archivos que allí se encuentran).
Te diré lo que creo de tu aspecto cuando contestes este mensaje.

thankyou so much! I have it already!
I speak spanish but still speak to you in english to respect the forum languaje.
I wait your response

[Squapius]

Your moon wants balance.
Bien. If I see the Semisextile that goes from your libra moon to you scorpio saturn; and after a quincunx that goes since Saturn to your aries mercury and venus; I can say: That your moon connects with your psyque and loving identity, by the emocionally charged Saturn placed in the tenth house. Your need to be faithful with yourself -And what you want and honor -and feel your emotions balanced; express itself with a (Edit) sesquiquadrate (Obsessive self-assertion, in this case I´m thinking semiinconscient), that falls in those fire marqued planets. That self-assertion manifestates in all its glory in mercury and venus placed in aries... ...And in a third house. That means: You have the necesity of keep your emotions and the sense of who you are in harmony; in the form of a strong tendence of showing yourself to the object of your love and psyquical unquietness, with all the assertiveness aries could give; comunicating and exercing the intellectual force.
That´s one of the notable factors that allows you or gives to you a facility in relationate with men. Because them -By the general -appreciate more the frankness than the other side.
The fact that moon was placed in ninth house gives to it a plus, gives to it an emphasis. It makes stronger the necesity.
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Aprecias y contemplas a las personas diferentes (Que en su caso suelen ser masculinas y extrovertidas) porque ves un reflejo de ellas en tí misma o de lo que quieres ser (Por eso puedes comunicarte con ellas asertivamente), y esto puede ser una obsesión al nivel de la inconsciencia. Si recorro el semicuadrado que se conecta con el trino, lo cual tiene como vértices: Plutón (Ho. 10 scorpio), saturno (Ho. 10 scorpio) y sol (Ho. 3 aries); puedo concluir eso.
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At the final, I can touch the squares, which have an easy explanation (For me): A taurus mars means your agressivity and all forms of action force manifestates in a controlled, constant and ferreous way. This planet and his effects are located in the 4th house, which means that agressivity show itself in a familiar theme and/or diriged to a familiar member (That could be your male progenitor). The square points jupiter placed in the 1st house that falls at its time in aquarius. I think you and your father were or are fighting for see who win/gain attention in a particular comfrontation/situation, or who develops him/her person more.
See his chart.
And I have to ask you a question: Are you hideously annoying with the ones you don´t like?

That is what I have to offer.
What do you think?

[StarNur]

Hi Circe,

my sister and I have Mars opposite Jupiter. And were always arguing with our father. Much less so now however..it gets tiring after a while. My cousin also has Mars opposite Jupiter and she has a hard time getting along with her father. She`s a scorpio and he`s a Taurus, so this might have something to do with it.

Pluto aspecting your Asc and Jupiter, and your MC (father?) could do it too. Pluto is opposite IC, 4th house cusp, hence power struggles at home.

What sign is ure father?

[Shining Ray]

Hi Circe,

As Starnur said it probably is the influence of your Pluto/Moon on the parental angle (4th/10th)

Plus you also have Mars in the 4th house.

Meaning of Mars in 4th

Your powers of self assertion are somewhat unconscious, buried either by having the actions of others overwhelm you in some way, or else it never occurred to you that you had the right to get what you wanted. Your father's influence or your early experiences have contributed to or has been the cause of this. Whatever or whoever it was, could well be leaving you feeling very angry, but probably unconsciously. Left to itself this anger can give rise to domestic strife. So sooner or later you had to get out and strike out for what you want and believe in.

[Circe]

First of all, my father`s sign is taurus, he has moon in aries and ASC pisces.
Maybe in an unconscious level we fight for attention, but the way I think consciouslly is that all the fights started when I got sick of his power thirst, controlling all the family members... maybe I put myself in a place like the "defender of the poor"... but other members of my family have admitted that I`m the only one that never was afraid of my father and confronting him, so because of that he started to fight with me. (I`ll post his natal chart later).

con respecto a la pregunta que me hiciste, no se si la entendi bien, pero quisite decir que soy terriblemente temperamental con la gente que no soporto? Well, I have to admit that`s full true. I cannot stand being in half good ways, if I hate someone I fight all the time, sometimes I want to destroy the other with my words... specially my father, who has the ability to erase the things he`s done wrong just saying "I do not remember that".

Your analysis was quite amazing, indeed I never considered all the aries in 3rd, and the fact that some aspects lead me to like different people... which I`ve always did. I hate going with the flow, but still I`m not always against anything... just go my own way.

[Circe]

here is my father`s natal chart:

http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_w2gw_01_eduardo_father_hp.48061.23496.gi f&res=63&va=&cid=qydfileiebz4O-u1186060860

[Squapius]

Weeeee!!
I´m glad my analysis was accurate! I´m marvelous.
And also glad you liked it.

I have pluto in my fourth house.
Struggling and renoeving planets situated in that house, and/or that relationates with a mars falling in introvertide signs -As my opinion -could give you pain on the subject´s house.
Much pain.
But the only thing you can do, is crucify guilt*, and reflectionate which are your feelings. And apply.

HP! (Hasta pronto)

*Guilt is not necessary.
Stab and hate guilt.
It´s your enemy.