Moon at 25°40, Regulus at 29°50. Can this be seen as last contact of the Moon?

[starlink]

Here I am again with yet another question.

I have a (normally) VOC Moon, but just before leaving the sign it will conjunct the benefic start Regulus. Does this have any influence on the Moon or must the Moon only make contact with other planets in order NOT to be VOC?
In how far do important Stars play a role? Is it only when they exactly conjunct a planet or can we have a certain orb of max. 2° or something like that?:confused: Thanks for any input!:)

[al Nablusi]

Here I am again with yet another question.

I have a (normally) VOC Moon, but just before leaving the sign it will conjunct the benefic start Regulus. Does this have any influence on the Moon or must the Moon only make contact with other planets in order NOT to be VOC?
In how far do important Stars play a role? Is it only when they exactly conjunct a planet or can we have a certain orb of max. 2° or something like that?:confused: Thanks for any input!:)
A fixed star is a star, a planet is a planet. I think the Moon is VOC. However, the conjunction to Regulus definitely helps. I am copying and pasting the ninth consideration of Guido Bonatti on fixed stars.

cheers,

"for when thou dost erect a figure, thou should’st first fine the Significator of the thing enquired after, or to be undertaken, and see if any of the fixed stars of his own Nature being either of his Houses, or in his Exaltation, or in conjunction with him to a minute; for then such star shall so far help the significator, that the thing shall be accomplished and effected, even beyond the Querent’s hopes, and this is a most strong secret Helper: For the Querent may well wonder how it comes to pass. Now, if the same star should be in the same degree with the Significator from one minute to 15’ before him or 5’ behind him, it will still help him, but not so much: and this we call a very strong secret Helper; but if it be with him in the same degree, but above 16 minutes distance and within 50’, it will somewhat help, yet this less; and this we call in the Positive degree only a strong secret Helper. If it be in the same degree with the Significator, in a place where he has two of his smaller Dignities, in the very same minute, or within 16 minutes, it will help him yet less, and then ‘tis a weak secret Helper; from 16’ to 50’ still less, and then ‘tis a weaker secret Helper; but if it be with the Significator in a place where he has no dignities at all it will still help, but as it were insensibly; and this we call a most weak secret helper. The like we may say on the contrary of those things that prejudice, frustrate, and hinder business: For if a Planet which is Significator of anything, being in a place where he has not any Dignities, shall be joined with one of the Fixed Stars of a contrary nature, it will weaken him and not suffer the thing to come to pass; although otherwise by the Figure it seemed never so probable; so that, for want of heeding this, the Artist often gets discredit, and raises a scandal on the Art itself amongst the ignorant: and this is a most strong secret Hinderer; whereas if the same Star be remote above 16 minutes from the Significator, it will weaken him, but not altogether so much; whence it may be called only a very strong secret Hinderer. And so downwards through all degrees in the same manner as we said of the Helpers or Assistant causes respectively."

[Draco]

Hi Star.

Well, I'm also in the lunar-lion club, and my Moon is conjoined with yours, it being at Leo 28.47.

I do consider my own Moon to be conjoined with Regulus, but if it was any further away, I wouldn't allow it.

We have to be tight with our allowances for conjunctions to fixed stars, because firstly, they aren't planets and shouldn't be treated as such, and secondly, because if we were to allow such wide orbs then every planet in our charts would be conjoined with several fixed stars.

The eventual conjunction to Regulus does not save the Moon being void, as fixed stars can't be treated as planets. My Moon is also void, having just had a severe lashing from Mars in Scorpio. Lucky me :o

How important or not fixed stars are is of interest to me as well, but what I find, is that they tend to make little sense in tropical astrology. In sidereal astrology, the Heart of the Lion is in the middle of Leo, where we would expect it to be, rather than right at the tail-end of the sign - which is where Denebola, the Lion's Tail, should of course be.

I also wonder what will become of our perception of Regulus when it eventually moves into Virgo?

I think when it comes to fixed stars, they come onto their own in sidereal astrology.

[starlink]

Thanks to both of you for answerîng me. Draco, my Moon is not in Leo, it is the clients Moon, mine is in Scorpio and there I also have a problem with all those fixed stars surrounding it: 19 degrees Serpentis, 17.26, my Moon and at 15° South Scale, horror of all horrors! But then I have Jupiter at 23°48 Scorpio exactly Agena also at 23°48 Superduper!!! So far I have been very fortunate in my life (I think), no loss, theft, abuse etc., anguish maybe at times. Honestly, I really dont want to use these stars unless they are absolutely exactly on top of one of my planets and fortunate AGENA is!! Jupiter is ruler of my 2nd house, and because I am a positive one, I concentrate on this star rather than the other two nasty one's!

[Draco]

Sorry Star.

The introduction to your post made it sound like you were referring to your own Moon. :o

[starlink]

Yeah, you are right! That was a bit misleading. Please, dont feel sorry, that is he last thing you should be!

[starlink]

Al Nablusi, I just read Bonati's explanation on the fixed stars and that does make sense to me. Like I mentioned above, I do feel the benefits of the fixed star AGENA which is exactly conjunct my Jupiter, degree & minute as well and I never ever have experienced anything negative from the other fixed stars which are more than 2 degrees away from my Moon. So thanks for this information. I will really only use the stars when totally exact with planets.

[Draco]

Hi again.

It might be worthwhile considering the magnitude of the star in question when weighing up conjunctions to planets. For example, Sirius, the brightest star in the sky, might be given much more leeway for a conjunction than those which are dimmer.

[starlink]

Ah yes, also good idea. Well, I've learned something today and now I am going to do something else! Will be back tomorrow! Bye for now and have a nice evening or day, depending on which side of the world you live!

[freedomlover]

Draco,
I also wonder what will become of our perception of Regulus when it eventually moves into Virgo? When does this take place - I have some ideas on the meaning.