rebel in heart :)

[maxwell]

just a test post..

[flea]

hmmm Mars on the descendent with quite a few squares, probably would account for your rebellious streak, though you dont seem to own it. I wonder if there is some projection goign on here?

Mercury rules the MC (gemini) so that gives you clues for careers. Gemini is fickle (It is my ascendent I have some experience). Changing minds a lot is common here. I would say go with it. You do lots of different things, if you like this, carry on doing this dont limit yourself unnecessarily.

Merc is on MC which indicate a mercurial career again. have a look at the combination of Gemini and Cancer, what key words come out and how do they strike you?

My thoughts for what they are worth. I have indicated areas to look at rather than a degfinitive reading. You will come up with some interesting themes yourself. See what resonates with you, and what do you really truely love doing.

Love Light and Peace
Flea

[flea]

It is really a stellium of Moon Mercury and Chiron, which is very powerful sitting up there at the MC in Cancer. It does bring to mind PSych things. i can relate to not wanting to do things where there is too negative an energy. I am interested in Psych, but did not want to do a left brain approach to it. I have done Art Psychotherapy, which is much more intuitive and creative in its approach. i did that in my late 30's.

I think things happen at the right time, more so if you listen very closely to the inner voice.

I am glad you were able to take something useful from my message.

Love Light and Peace
Flea

[Lissa]

Adding to what Flea has said,I believe your Moon/Mercury/Chiron conjunction opposing Uranus and the tight Uranus square Mars may be held accountable for the rebelliousness.Uranus is the planet of rebellion by excellence,since it does not conform with rules and loves to do things in new,unusual manners others may not even think of.The Moon/Uranus tense aspects usually add a certain unpredictability to the moods,lighting up the chalenge between the need for emotional security and the need for freedom and independence(and I know this,for I've lived it,having a Moon/Uranus square myself;)).I believe the conflict may be accentuated by the signs the planets occupy-being your Moon/Mercury/Chiron in sensitive Cancer and Uranus in such a freedom loving sign.Your rebelious nature maybe somewhat apparent(Uranus square Ascendant),but the fact that Uranus occupies the4th house(the home)may show that your real rebelious streak may come out more strongly in more intimate situations,where you feel comfortable and secure.With all this aspects,emotional security may be harder to get.

Mars adds to all of this by squaring Uranus.Mars and Uranus can be quite a combo when they get together,since Mars has the power to excite Uranus,making it even more rebelious!:eek: With Mars on your Descendant,the rebellious streak may come out in relationships,either by atracting typical Martian partners(strong willed and energic)or by acting quite Martian yourself in one on on situations.All this is enhanced by having Pluto trining your Moon/Chiron conjunction,adding much depth to your emotions.

Plus,you have Jupiter inconjunct Saturn.This shows a conflict between the need to expand the self(Jupiter)and the need to conform to society's rules(Saturn).With Jupiter ruling your4th house and being Capricorn also intercepted there,could it be that you experience this challenge more deeply in your family environment?I'm not sure about this.

With so many Water in your chart and having all the personal planets in Water signs,you're a true sensitive soul,deep down,and you may "feel" the world in a more deeper way than your rebellious nature may sugest.

I won't go into career matters,since I'm quite confused myself lol,but doing something related to the Arts may be a good way to put your non-aspect Venus to work,and it may help you release all the sensitive energies of your Cancer planets.

Well I'm not a professional astrologer so if you can't ressonate with this,please ignore lol.

Regards,
Lissa

[Lissa]

Glad you could ressonate with my words!

About partners-looking in your chart for indications of how the "perfect" partner may be like is quite hard and often useless.As life goes on,you meet people,and it's impossible to know wether the new person you met has the personality traits you look for or not.Plus,you can find lots of people with whom you don't seem to be "compatible" with,but,if you both work hard,you can always get things working.

When I first saw your chart,I thought your unaspected Venus in Gemini is probably at conflict with the Cancer stellium-Cancer is so sensitive and protective and Gemini is totally the opposite,detached and always on the go.Venus on the9th house shows you may find love on a foreign country,and this is supported by having the traditional ruler of your7th house there too.With Mars on your Descendant,a lot of excitment in relationships required to keep you interested.On the other hand,you also need some who an "feed" your emotional Cancerian side and provide you a sense of security,since Libra,the natural ruler of the7th,is in the2nd house.

I think you would be better with someone who is funny,witty and creative,but sensitive enough to know when to play and when to get serious.Well,isn't it what we all we want?:p

Re the languages thing-your Moon/Mercury conjunction plays a big role in it,I have one too(in Aries,3rd house)and love learning languages as well...and feel really ashamed that I can only master the English(apart from my birth language,that is):(

Cheers,
Lissa

[freedomlover]

Rebel,

Just looking at your chart, what screams to me is the absolutely loaded 4th/10th house axis - so my first question is "How is your relationship with your parents?" No., Really. How is your relationship with your parents? - especially in the area of respecting your boundaries and free will.

The cusps of your 4th and 10th houses are the Sag/Gemini polarity, which is the polarity concerning free will and open communications - where both sides have an equal voice. I would guess that all that Cappy in the 4th house - which is the house of your childhood conditioning - would show one or more cold authoritarian-type parents. Also maybe one who was all about their career and had no time for you - they valued work above "quality time". The phrases "My house, my rules." and "It's my way or the highway" come to my mind when I look at your 4th/10th house axis.

I, too, am very drawn to that conjunction in Cancer on your MC - Mercury, Chiron, and Moon in a tight conjunction. This is what one of my astrology books has to say about a Moon/Mercury conjunction: "When the planet of the emotions is conjunct the planet of reason and communication, the emphasis is on imagination, intuition, speech, voice, and intellectual awareness. You are sensitive to other people's reactions. This conjunction emphasizes domestic and health matters." This conjunction being in Cancer further emphasizes the emotional, intuitive, needy part of yourself. However, Chiron is exactly between these two. To me, this is pointing to a deep wounding between thoughts and emotions. It also may be pointing to a problematic relationship with your mother, all this being in Cancer, and the moon being part of it - or possibly a father completley cut off from his emotions who did not honor yours, since it opposes the planets in the 4th. Also, Cancer rules "overcoercion" - somebody who thinks they have to do your thinking for you, won't let you grow up and make your own decisions, etc, etc. Also, a big lesson is for you to acknowledge your own emotional needs, and not to shut them away under a hard shell.

Also, your Saturn/Uranus conjunction is in Sag, and is smack on the 4th house cusp. Sag, when unbalanced, thinks it has all the answers, and always knows what is best for another - the type that they say about them "You can't tell them anything". Do you have an insufferable know-it-all" in your past? (or present). Saturn in Sag - the father? or one who imposed restrictions with their beliefs? Uranus in Sag - the need to "run away" from someone like this - the need for freedom of will, speech, etc. But you can't really get away from them until you forgive them. Forgiving is usually impossible until you face what they did that was wrong, and this involves really getting in touch with how you really feel - not how you were told you ought to feel - but how you really feel.

Your Venus is in Gemini in the 9th, further emphasizing your need for clear communication and people who respect your decisions, and your free will. This is probably the kind of girl who will appeal to you - who who doesn't try to control you, is understanding of how you think and feel, and is an honest communicator. The best way to attract this kind of person, is to embody all these qualities yourself.

I don't know where you are developmentally with your chart, as this is only the natal lessons you were born with, so forgive me if you are "past" some of what I said. It also may be a good idea to take a good look in the mirror, and see if any of these same qualities apply to yourself, especially with your Mars being in Pisces on your DC.

Oh, and one other thing...... I'm glad you resonated with what Lissa was saying - she is usually pretty "right on ", and I hope there is something equally useful to you in what I said, but......


Well I'm not a professional astrologer so if you can't ressonate with this,please ignore lol.
Even if she was a professional astrologer, if you can't resonate with it, ignore it or put in on a shelf to look at again later, but whatever you do, don't swallow it hook, line, and sinker. That Saturn/Uranus conjunction on your MC screams to beware of those who call themselves experts. You are the ultimate authority on whether it is true and useful for you - or not.

Okay.....I'm done for now. Hope it helps. :rolleyes:

Empathizing with you,

Freedomlover