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Vesta13
07-01-2007, 02:36 AM
Hi,
Could anyone help me identify my strengths and weaknesses according to my chart? I'M going through one of the roughest phases in my life right now with depression.
Thanks,
Female
Born April 27, 1969
Montreal, Canada
12h20 pm
Libra20
07-01-2007, 03:01 AM
Have you ever tried Bach's rescue remedy? It is made from flower essences and I've found it very helpful for depression. http://www.bachflower.com/ Where I live, it is readily available.
Frisiangal
07-01-2007, 09:49 AM
Hi Vesta,
My daughter is 2 days older than you and also going through a tough time. It's the effect of the Pluto square to itself; yourself at some deep level telling you and knowing that you have got to make some necessary change to your life in the area in which natal Pluto is placed through the area in which it has been transiting. That what was no longer is and can be, and you can't go on putting up with an old situation that has outlived its purpose in an attempt to 'wanting to keep things as they used to be'. If you don't make the necessary changes yourself, they will be made for you. Tr. Pluto will also be transiting natal Jupiter, which could refer to legalities or health..or both.
Add the current long-term opposition from Saturn-Neptune to your natal Mercury-Neptune opposition, and you get the swing between natal Neptune's cruel side as emotional blackmail (as my daughter called it! great expression) and Mercury's usage of its practical common sense. Transiting Saturn lets you see how things really are, whilst Neptune can cloud issues of their true perspective into dreams of how they could be but aren't.
Your strength lies in allowing yourself to take charge of, be concerned for, and protect yourself (Saturn in Leo) whilst seeing the clarity and truth (Neptune) in that all change (Aquarius) doesn't have to be negative of influence once you can see through the mist and fog of your illusions which may have deceived you into believing things are other than they truly are.
Glad to say that the swing of the pendulum is working well for my daughter.
She's no longer allowing herself to be manipulated, emotionally abused, and continue to accept a situation as it was. She is 'taking back the power in myself' (her words) and this new woman emerging, although still with a lot of the old mannerisms in her, is stronger than the one who accepted everything but has faded away. The Sun-Saturn Conjunction you both share.
Hope the same can soon be said of you.:) Your progressions work a few years earlier than hers, so full enjoyment of life again may just be around the corner.;)
Frisiangal
Vesta13
07-01-2007, 03:42 PM
thank you for the information. I don't really understand the following. : telling you and knowing that you have got to make some necessary change to your life in the area in which natal Pluto is placed through the area in which it has been transiting.
My pluto is in virgo in second house. How do you interpret that as far as the area of the of my life that needs change.
Thanks
Vesta13
07-01-2007, 05:03 PM
I looked up my chart and for pluto position i found the following:
I don,t know how to intepret this
Pluton aspects
Mercury trigon Pluton orbe -2°54'
Jupiter conjonction Pluton orbe +4°21'
Uranus conjonction Pluton orbe +7°49'
Mars square Pluton orbe -5°58'
Neptune sextile Pluton orbe +5°09'
StarNur
07-01-2007, 09:57 PM
Hi,
Saturn in the 1st house could also have something to do with how you're feeling now.
If you're feeling gloomy now...you should be prepared for this winter. Saturn will conjunct your moon.
Vesta13
07-02-2007, 12:59 AM
Thanks,
That's just what I needed to hear...don't even know if i'll make it through the summer.
Frisiangal
07-02-2007, 09:33 AM
[QUOTE]
thank you for the information. I don't really understand the following. : telling you and knowing that you have got to make some necessary change to your life in the area in which natal Pluto is placed through the area in which it has been transiting.
My pluto is in virgo in second house. How do you interpret that as far as the area of the of my life that needs change.
Hi again Vesta,
The 2nd house refers to one's attitudes towards personal possessions through the house of finances and anything of value and worth. Pluto itself can be a bit obsessive and possessive of nature about the house it's in, so you could have a thing about having money....and lots of it, with Jupiter conjunct Pluto.... whereas Virgo is the sign of self-sufficiency; i.e. enough to get by to pay the bills, buy the food etc. The necessities of life without the luxury fringes. Virgo is a personal sign, so you can't rely on others to 'keep you', as it were. It's all up to you and how you go about handling your possessions and finances.
The 2nd house also refers to the value and worth you place upon yourself as a person. If you rely on others to provide you with that value, you are looking at yourself in the wrong way. That needs to change.
Transiting Pluto will be anywhere between your 4th/5th/6th houses. Each house carries a particular theme. So, if tr. Pluto is going through your 4th house, it may have caused an eruption in your home life; in your 5th house the parent/child relationship and/or your love life may have erupted; in the 6th house it's your job and/or health that undergoes the upheavel. What transiting Pluto does in these houses is to bring you back to your 2nd house personal values and worth. If there's a necessity to 'mend your ways' (Virgo loves repairing things!), Pluto's transit to itself will show it to you by you knowing deep inside what it is that you MUST do.
You make mention of 'don't know if I'll make it through the summer'. That's a touch of Neptune's self-pitying victim role attitude getting its way instead of allowing your self discipline and responsibility towards yourself (Saturn) to lead you out of it.
Everyone experiences the 'I want to die' attitude at some time or another. But if you really look at what it is they they want to die, it's only the sh-- situation they are in but NOT life itself. Usually such an idea arises because someone else has done something that has turned one's world upside down (Pluto). The question your willpower (Pluto) asks of you is , 'Is THAT person worth MY life?' Usually there's only one answer and it's one when a negative reply is significant of truly positive action. ;) When Saturn transits that Virgo
stellium, you will have hopefully put the past behind you so that it no longer has any grip upon your future.
The UR-PL in Virgo generation seem to have a lot of insecurities which tend to manifest into crisis situations simply because their idea of 'a perfect world' doesn't always take the shape they want it to take. If your depression doesn't pass, you might find that professional help can clear any lingering cobwebs blocking the path of your further direction.
Good Luck,
Frisiangal
Vesta,
Jupiter and Saturn have been making your miserable. Saturn has been squaring your Mercury on and off since October of last year, and Jupiter conjuncted and will again conjunct your natal Mars which is very sensitive as it both squares natal Jupiter and Pluto, and is itself retrograde. So the TRUTH is that when Saturn leaves the square of Merc you will no longer feel helpless, but Jupiter doesn't end it's stressing of your Mars square till December.
Now you need to know what ACTION you are supposed to take, what changes you need to make during the Jupiter transit which ends in December. Stress happens when the universe is calling on you to make changes and you do 'nothing.' You probably know what needs to be done but it seems too difficult right now. Give yourself a break and don't think about it till Saturn leaves the square of your Mercury.
Saturn in your Moon sign can be useful or not. Often it means leaving some bad habits and patterns behind. You will need help. When you actively seek help often it's there for you.
Jupiter leaving Sagi and entering Capricorn will help balance the Saturn in Virgo transit, modifying it.
LIN
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