Numerology

[Rohan]

Hi friends,

What will be the significance of Date 07/07/2007? What kind of impact it will have on mankind?

Regards,
Rohaan Joshii

[starlink]

Hello Rohan, I dont think it will have any impact on mankind because it is only 1 day that this energy lasts. All numbers added results in another 7. The 7 is associated with technology, introvertivity, quietness (everyone his own business, no interfering with others). It is a number associated with privacy.
If the yearnumber would total to a 7, then maybe mankind would be influenced by it but I doubt one day in a lifetime will do this.

[fensi88]

Starlink
All numbers added results in another 7...
No, all numbers added results in number 5.

[Draco]

I would disagree even further, and say that all numbers added come to 2021.

Why does nobody considering what the symbolic significance of this number is in it's own right, instead of boiling everything down to the lowest common denominator?

2021, symbolically, would represent the number two, in terms of no number, in terms of number two again, and finally, all this in the terms of the number one.

I suppose it takes intelligence and imagination to interpret this, which is probably why most people who call themselves numerologists don't bother, and have never even considered this, which stands out like a sore thumb to me.

Why should we take 2021, 14, 311, 123 and boil all of these numbers to 5?

Surely to God, all of these numbers mean very, very different things, the fact that they can all be deducted to the number five is but a very small part of the relationship that exists between them, but I think that to boil everything down to nine numbers as the backbone of modern numerology is very unsophisticated.

If one is unity, and two is divison, then the number twelve, represents 'unity within division', and yes, we can add these numbers togther, to get three, the number of 'creation', for example, which informs us that unity + division = creation, but let us not overlook the significance of a number before it has been so simply deducted to it's lowest commom denominator.

For example, 22, is division within division, hence it relates to all which is constantly splitting off and doubling within itself, 22 is like when a mirror is shone into another mirror, or bacteria dividing under a microscope, or our cells which are constantly replicating themselves - but - if we just boil this number down to four, straight from the off, and see it as 'stability', then we are overlooking exactly what kind of stability the number 22 represents, it is the type of stability that comes from division within division.

What I am saying, is that of all the numbers that reduce to four, they all refer to stability at some level, but if we consider the signifiocance of the number before it is reduced, then we can determine the nature of the 'stability' that is being referred to.

Furthermore, the numbers all belong to different classes, hence all single digit numbers refer to differing types of 'unity', all double numbers refer to different kinds of 'division', and so on and so on.........

How about addition, subtraction, division and multiplication. Why does nobody ever seem to consider symbolic significance of these operations?

What does the adding together off numbers in itself symbolise?

Addition - fire, postive.
Subtraction - water, negative.
Multiplication - air, positive.
Division - earth, negative.

2 + 2 = 4 (division added to division equal stability)
2 - 2 = 0 (division taken from division equals no-thing-ness)
2 x 2 = 4 (division reproduced by division also equals stability)
2 / 2 = 1 (division shared equally with division equals unity)

Think about it.

There is a serious shortage of imagination and intelligence in modern numerology.

[AquarianEssence]

I agree Draco, with all that you say except... Mondern numerologists don't necesarily always reduce to the simplest form and ignore the higher vibration. I don't think any would reduce 22 or any of the master numbers although we would be aware that it carries is simple vibration within. I also don't look at 2 as division. It is awareness of the other with the self, the partnership. One is alone but 2 seeks a mate. It is the awareness of opposite but complimentary qualities rather than division. I do like your take on it though. That would be the multiplication of the self to produce its mate.

I would interpret 07/07/2007 as a day of culminaton-completion (2007=9) during which it is time to reflect, 7 and rest 7. Or...

On the final day of creation(7) the self existant, eternal one (0) who is without beginning or end (0) pondered the companion he had created (2) and saw that he was that it was good and complete (7) and he rested (7). This would be a good day to reflect on this. The total is 23/5 which, in the Tarot corresponds to the King of Wands who rules with the noble septre. He is the Fire king who's symbol is the phallus like wand. I usually see him as Leo. He has expanded (3) in the creative fires of desire for his mate and brings change (5). Quite often that change will produce an offspring. 2+1=3 but synergy produces 5. The Jews have a word that means to seven oneself, sha-bah', the root of sabath or shabot. It means to perfect or complete oneself, also to fill fully, satisfy.

7/7 is a palendrome, reads the same frontwards and backwards. I have a sister born that day, one on 8/8 also. Perhaps it is a good day to see that not only does the past create the future but the future creates the present and past.

Some day I'll have to share what happened on 6/6/6, a day the Moon was void nearly all day. There seems to be something extreme about days with tripple digits. 9/11/1 was another.

I was born on 09/04 (mm/dd) and my husband was born on 04/09. The midoint is Winter Solstice, the day the Sun enters the grave for 3 days. He had to spend a year in the grave but rose 3 days early, sort of backwards, don't you think? Just like our birthdays. 365-3=362, not only 2 primes and the 1st perfect number but it adds to 11, Justice the first master number. But it wasn't really justice, it was backwards, the loopehole that exists within the void.

[starlink]

Sorry Fensi, of course, it results in a 5. I must have either mis typed or been in another world! 5 = chaos,change, freedom, sex, partying. I guess it will be a jolly good day!

[starlink]

Hi Draco, yes, why dont we look further than what has been based on thousands of years of experience, research etc. It has been done before so it can done again and if we would not do it, we get a standstil in this and any science for that matter.As always, you are good at stirring up controversy. I like the originality of your way of thinking. Nevertheless, I do agree with Aquarian Essence as well.
Have you read "the Secret Science of Numerology" by Shirley Blackwell Lawrence? She does not "just" boil down everything to one common denominator.She looks at a 13 = 4 in a totally different way then a 31 = 4 or a 211 = 4. Each of these three "4's" are different. I think her work is absolutely fabulous. Not all numerologists do it the simple way, but starting like that is necessary. What you suggest needs a solid knowledge of numerology as a basis first and then you can start cooking with numbers if you like.Why don't you write a book on your findings? (I am not joking here!!). I find your ideas intriguing. You make out of 7/7/2007 the number 2021. Aquarian E. sees it differently (and more to my liking I must admit). Her interpretation makes more sense to me. Your juggling of numbers indeed needs imagination, but the interpretation of the outcomes is what I am interested in I guess and when you say :2021 is interpreted as 2 = 2, then 0 = nothing, then 2 = 2 again and finally all results in the nr. 1, then that does not tell me much. Aquarian E. does! (sorry....).

[Draco]

Hi Aqua.

I don't think any would reduce 22 or any of the master numbers although we would be aware that it carries is simple vibration within.

Why not? This is something I've never been able to understand.

I also don't look at 2 as division. It is awareness of the other with the self, the partnership.

I used 'division' for the sake of example. Nor does 'partnership' embody completely the symbolic significance of 'twoness' any more or less than 'division' does, but you can see how both relate very well, and yet are different things.

There is a quote by Steven King, in which he says, “The most important things are the hardest things to say. They are the things you get ashamed of because words diminish your feelings - words shrink things that seem timeless when they are in your head to no more than living size when they are brought out.”

So a mere two words such as 'division' or 'partnership', do not fully embody the qualities of two, but if we were to add more words, such as 'polarity', 'opposition', 'line', 'path', 'change', 'reaction', and hundreds more, we might get to a more rounded idea of 'twoness'. However, trying to put such a concept into words, diminishes the original idea.

So I was just using 'division' as an example to make my point, which I think you knew anyway really. :rolleyes:

It is awareness of the other with the self, the partnership. One is alone but 2 seeks a mate. It is the awareness of opposite but complimentary qualities rather than division.

I like your take on it two (pun intended), and indeed it is very true, but so is 'division', for two tears apart as well as providing a line of connection between two points.

It is interesting how these two opposite concepts can be reconciled in the number two, as opposites themselves are all to do with two.

Hi Star.

As always, you are good at stirring up controversy.

Hehe. Yep. Devil's advocate. Then again, the malefics are the strongest planets in my chart. :rolleyes:

Have you read "the Secret Science of Numerology" by Shirley Blackwell Lawrence? She does not "just" boil down everything to one common denominator.She looks at a 13 = 4 in a totally different way then a 31 = 4 or a 211 = 4. Each of these three "4's" are different.

I haven't. Thankyou for telling me about this writer though, because I think I will seek her out, because this sounds like my kind of numerology. This is just what I'm talking about. However, if it gets into very complicated mathematical operations, as a library book I once got out years ago did, with square roots and algebra and pye and all that stuff, which are completely inpenetrable mysteries to my mind, it will lose me all together, as I border on the numerically dyslexic. :o

Why don't you write a book on your findings?

Like I say, I'm no mathematician, and my book writing days are a while to come yet.

You make out of 7/7/2007 the number 2021.

Could somehow events on that day have a special relationship with the year 2021 in some way? Just an idea.

(sorry....).

Sorry? What on Earth for? :confused:

[starlink]

Hello Draco! No, dont worry, the book "secret science of Numerology" is not at all difficult to understand. I am hopeless with math as well and would never have liked it if the book was mathematically complicated. I just could not put it down!! Just increadibly well researched, and it shows how amazingly mysterious numbers and names (put into numbers) are. It read like a detective story and I LOVE thrillers. No kidding, it is absolutely worthwhile, she is a clever cookie!

[Draco]

I just looked up this book on Amazon, and it has a five star rating. I think I'll have to treat myself to a copy of this. :)

This is the type of thing I was after, the only book I ever found upon an in depth exploration of numerology, beyond a mere nine numbers, was that old library book, but it was like rocket science, and not at all user friendly to the lobsidedly right brained like myself.

Thanks for letting me know about it.

[Rohan]

Dear Friends,

I want to know the importance of Car numbers in human life. Can you please guide me in this subject?

Regards,
Rohaan Joshii

[shyam]

Vedic Numerology is the study of the planetary ruler ship through nine primary numbers. It is based on the vibratory resonance of each number. Vedic Numerology is a sacred study as it enables us to look deeply into the wheel of karma and adjust our attitude and behavior in the world. Absolutely everything is based on etheric vibration, the higher the frequency, the more force it contains.

A typical and interesting case study may be found on following page:
http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/incident/namesugg/jasper.htm

Shyam

[AquarianEssence]

This is fascinating and I'm sure it is true. Everything lies veiled in number and vibration. I've never seen my vedic chart, but I am familiar with the Chaldean number system. I usually focus more one the modern English alphabet form though. In that system my main numbers are 22, 33, 55 and 32 with the power number, combination of my full name, 55, and life lesson, 32, being 89/15. This is said to be a temporary vibration prominant during the 30s and 40s. It's interesting because in the Chaldean system my only number for name considered is 15 also, so 6 which is the same as 33/6 the consonant vibration in English numerology.

I don't see on your site yet, how to calculate one's lucky numbers in Vedic astrology. Will that be there soon? Very nice site by the way. :)

[shyam]

To calculate lucky numbers, you need to take into consideration several principles for determining the functional benefics and malefics in a Vedic chart, as told by sage Parashara, and the principles told in various streams of Vedic Jyotish to measure the exact benefic or malefic nature of the planets in your natal chart. The importance of various astrological parameters has to be calibrated very carefully - as told in ancient Vedic Jyotish texts.

Care has to be taken because at times, some special Jyotish principles may over-shadow the net result obtained through the normally used Parashari principles to determine the beneficence of a planet. In such cases, these special principles will prevail and may reduce (or enhance) beneficence of a planet considerably.

Further, you need to choose the correct initial letter ('Adyaakshara') of the name properly. There is an ancient connection between the phonetics of Sanskrit, and the special constellations, called 'Nakshatras', spanning the zodiac of Vedic Astrology. A nakshatra is made up of four equal divisions called padas and each pada is associated with a particular sound syllable. 27 nakshatras landmark the zodiac, giving a total of 108 nakshatra padas and corresponding sound syllables. One's birth nakshatra is the constellation the Moon is posited at time of birth and plays an important role in determining one's personality make-up.

Under Vedic system, every letter is said to confirm to a definite pattern of sound ('Dhwani'). Vedic astrology suggests that certain patterns of sound are more in harmony with the instance of your birth. The initial letter of your name should normally begin with a particular syllable, which represents your Moon rashi-nakshatra. However, you may also choose initial letter from the group of letters having the utmost harmony with your birth star. You should never choose initial letter for your name, which is passive, and not in harmony with your birth star. Letters with friendly vibrations may be used for purposes such as choosing your own name, naming your business, a product, naming your house and even pets.

How I prepare a typical report, based on above mentioned principles, may be seen at following location:
http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/samples/miscl/namesugg.htm

I have got excellent results of this system in various spheres of life. Car registration numbers is one of them. A detailed case study, involving 12 cars and three bikes, of a single person, has been posted on following page:

http://www.howisyourdaytoday.com/incident/namesugg/BinuMotors.htm

The results of this study were simply amazing.

It is so kind of you that you appreciated my website.

Thanks and regards,
Shyam

[AquarianEssence]

I'll definately have to put your reading on my want list, since I know very little about vedic astrology. In the English numberology, I was missing the number 8 at birth but have all others within my name and birth date. I was adopted by my mom's 2nd husband giving me that missing 8 in the last name change. But I also noticed in the Chaldean system, it wasn't missing. The total of my first name is an 8 and the first letter of my new last name was an 8.

Thank you for the information. I'd love to do this myself since I'm so into numbers. I also use astrological coorespondances to the numbers, and the tarot. My birth number, 32/5 is the 2nd decan of Leo and just happens to be my rising decan in western astrology. It is Cancer, of course in the Helio chart.