Will I ever get pregnant? Please help!!!

[ekaterina]

Hello,

My husband and I have been married for 2.5 years now and I have not been able to get pregnant.

Could somebody please look at our charts and let me know if we will have kids?

If yes...when?

What gender?

my info: 18.03.1983 at 16:00pm ...Mostar, Bosnia and Hezegovina
my husband: 19.11.1983...at 11:00am ...Leskovac, Serbia & Montenegro


Here are few of my own guesses...:)


So ...

Sun in 8th house ...crisis in life...now I hope I'm wrong ...?

Inheritance from relative ...now I don't know from who but anything is possible :)

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Saturn in 3rd house...problems in communication and little help from others....
I can see this...sometimes...not very nice...
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I looked at my husbands chart and his 5th house shows possibility for twin babies..if I am correct...

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Sun in pisces meaning that I will be able to get pregnant...someday?

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Sorry I am all over the place it seems to me that my pregnancy might come later.....but I have alredy wated 2.5 years so....maybe we can count that :)....

...I would love somebody elses input....because I don't see much good ...it might be because I am really down and only see negative thing...:(


thank youuuuu

[Draco]

Hi Ekaterina.

Firstly, may I say that this is the horary astrology section of the forums.

In horary astrology, the astrologer casts a chart at the moment at which s/he obtains and understands the question. The answer to that question will be contained within the symbolism of the chart.

You have posted a natal inquiry, in that you have posted the birth data of you and your partner. This means that this post ought to be in the 'Natal Astrology' section. However, having said that, a straight-forward question of this nature is in fact ideal for horary, and it would be unnecessary to go through the long winded process of two individual natal analyses, and then synastries etc., when the question can be answered from a simple horary.

So it's up to you, but I would go for a horary.

Now, in this horary section there are certain regulations.

A querent must give us a date, time and place at which the question is asked, so that we know the data from which to cast a horoscope.

In fact, the bona-fide method of horary astrology requires that the astrologer casts the chart for the time at which the question is received, however, as this is a forum and we must all be referring to the same chart, we must make exceptional circumstances, so that you provide the data when you ask the question.

Fortunately, the forum displays the time of your post, so we can cast a chart from your timezone and your location, in order to help you come to some conclusion on this matter.

There is also a rule of the horary forum, that the querent must make some sort of attempt, if not to interpret, then at least give some insight into the chart itself, so that we know what your own ideas are, as the horary section of these forums in particular, is considered a learning environment where we may derive benefit from each others insights and techniques. Having a go at interpreting the chart yourself, shows a commitment to astrology and a willingness to learn. The horary practioners around here are looking to interpret charts, as we of course enjoy this, but, it is better for us if we are helping others who are interested in learning with us, rather than doling out free readings to those whose interest in this place as a community isn't really that great.

It is also pertinent that you give as much background information as possible when asking a horary question. For example, a horary astrologer cannot proceed to judge if a person will have conceive or not, unless the age of the querent is known, whether or not they have any fertility problems, these things also need to be known about the partner, etc. Reason being, is that this helps us to judge how likely or unlikely is it that a person will get pregnant in the first place, so we will know whether or not we need only a weak, or a very strong testimony in order to deliver a positive judgement. This isn't cheating, it is part of the judgement - a person wouldn't expect a doctor to tell them what is wrong with them if the patient refuses to disclose his symptoms.

Here are some links pertaining to the rules of the horary forum:

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/announcement.php?f=43

Some links to horary tutorials.

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3715

Remember, you aren't expected to be adept at interpretation, but just a few insights of your own upon the chart would be nice.

So what would you like to do? Shall I put up the chart for the time you posted the question, converted to your own timezone and location, so that you can offer your ideas, and then the rest of us can help you and offer our own insights?

If not, then I can transport your post to the 'Natal Astrology' section, but this question is ideal for horary, and would give you a straight-forward, clear-cut answer.

It's up to you. :)

[ekaterina]

You can put the chart ...for when I asked the question....I will give some ideas too...I am SOOO new at this but I will give it a try.....:)

question asked from Toronto, Canada....May 10 ...time is in the first post

got married Dec. 20, 2004....

church wedding July 22, 2006...

hm what else could be helpful...hmmmm.....

we have not been to the doctor yet...but I want to see what you guys think...I think that we should explore that option too....

Thanks a million

[archergirl]

Also, and this has nothing to do with astrology, I would strongly recommend that you stop *trying* to get pregnant (assuming you are otherwise normal and healthy).

I can't tell you how many times I have heard people *trying* to get pregnant, without success. Miracle of miracles, when they *stop* trying and just go back to enjoying their sex life without any expectations stamped on it, they usually get pregnant! Again, assuming all is well. Conception requires a certain amount of 'energy' or life-force behind it. Sometimes people become so worried and preoccupied with the 'result' that the energy drains away.

But Draco is right; this is an excellent horary question.

Best,
AG:)

[ekaterina]

You are right 1000% ...but the thing is we are not really trying....meaning we are not "going crazy" ....or freaking out when the period comes....

We really do enjoy our sex life....and rarely talk about our potential problem....but I wanted to ask to see what you guys think :)

if we have to see doctor...we might as well do it while we are younger :)

[Draco]

Ekaterina, I'll need the location at which you was at when you posted the question. ;)

...and then the mind-boggling business of adjusting time and timezone. :p

[ekaterina]

I wrote location above but here is it again ...:) :)

I am in Toronto, Canada.....

[tikana]

HI

i have a problem with entire approach of this question.

A. horary is not trivial. If an inquirer is not serious about the object of his/her question, the planet or the house which rules the object of the focus, will show up as either weak or peregrine. I refer to natal chart AFTER i look at the horary .. I do look at the natal chart ONLY when I see something wierd with horary *sudden stuff*

B. I wouldnt worry about age and conditions of a relationship because any woman can get pregnant by one night stand or a rape. I wouldnt even trust the doctors, to be honest, i have seen their failures and misdiagnoses. Then there are freak acciddents. A chart may show twins but in reality, one survives or a baby develops outside of the womb which is born premature... the other baby stays in until end f the term unless the doctors pull both at the same time ... YES, it does happen. The fetus grows and some develop to a full term but do not make it.

c. I do not see an urgency in the question. EVER word throws me off. Horary loves being specific.

d. I am not 100% agreeing with Archie about "trying" BUT i can see where she is coming from..

e. then a woman CAN get pregnant but she should not because of health issues.

Basically, if you want to find out if you are fertile or not just ask

"Will I get pregnant within a year"
Date
Time
Location

then you look at 1st to 6th and 8th.,.. then 1st to 5th . then 5th house and 10th house for baby's health... if you are not seeing very fertile signs, it couldbe that you will be pregant wiht 1 baby..

Pregnancy questions are very complicated.

Cheers
Tik

[Draco]

Ekaterina, is the time of your initial post displayed as 12.40?

I just want to confirm I'm using the right chart.

[ekaterina]

Ok ....to simplify things ....I asked *specific* question....because I want to reach answer :-)

Draco I made the chart right now and will look at it :) to see whats going on.... than you guys say what you think please :-)))))))))))))

I appreciate it very much :-))))
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as I said I am not good at this but I will give it a try :)

[tikana]

I'd say YEAH
Moon does conjunct Mars plus part of children is conj both moon and mars
there is no MR between them but there is mixed reception
both in cadent house.

Ruler of 4th house is in cadent house
there is mixed reception between moon and venus

timewise? me thinks 5 months or so...
because ruler of 8th house *creation* is in 2nd house of immidiate future.
plus jupiter is trining saturn jupiter being ruler of your 6th house.
me thinks if you do have a child it will be a girl
part of daughters trines venus plus all signs pointing to a girl..

Good luck
Tik

[ekaterina]

Jupiter is in the 6th house...and it is very positive....if I am right it means that goals will be achieved...:)

Another interesting thing is that my friend knows a bit of astrology and she told me 5-6 months as well...now lets wait and see :) ....i hope it like that :)

Girl would make me SOOOOO happy :) but if it is a boy it is great too....:) kids are kids ...beautiful either way :)

[tikana]

Ekaterina

I dont know about how you were raised but 3 people, Draco, ArcherGirl and myself helped you with your horary... make that 4 *your friend* Saying THANK YOU is very standard across the world. I know most people who study any kind of area of astrology know what just looking at someone else's chart is very time consuming. Most people have lives outside of astroboards. A lot of people are here to exchange their knowledge and learn more by either helping someone or exchanging resources. A lot of good astrologers here are hiding because they experience THANKLESS behavior almost every week.

Ticked off Tik

[ekaterina]

Hello,

First of all... the fact that you are talking to me the way you are shows something about you and not me, I will not be mean to you because I am just not like that.

I did not close this post yet because I did not think it was done and also because I was getting ready to post few opinions of my own, too.

It is not nice of you to question the way I was raised and to attack me the way you did, but that will go under your name not mine.

There is a nice saying " When you do something do it because you want to...and not because you expect something in return".

I am behind few days because I have not had time to type up what I wanted.

After this I don't feel like it at all.

If you had a bad day DO NOT take it out on other people.

Don not judge people so fast, I don't think that you like to be judged that way?

Thank you for your help, and everyone else.

[tikana]

First of all... the fact that you are talking to me the way you are shows something about you and not me, I will not be mean to you because I am just not like that.

** HUH?

I did not close this post yet because I did not think it was done and also because I was getting ready to post few opinions of my own, too.

*** didnt you already do that?***

It is not nice of you to question the way I was raised and to attack me the way you did, but that will go under your name not mine.

*** try again! even if someone reads a post, he/she takes time away from their everyday life to read the post even if they have absolutely nothing to say***

There is a nice saying " When you do something do it because you want to...and not because you expect something in return".

** tell me .. what am i asking in return? THANK YOU .. by the way.. Draco and Archergirl helped you as well. i wasnt the only person who replied to your horary.. so again.. AM I ASKING something in return just for MYSELF? ***

I am behind few days because I have not had time to type up what I wanted.

*** then say "about to post more.. stay tuned" most people do that ****

After this I don't feel like it at all.

If you had a bad day DO NOT take it out on other people.

** actually, i am having a fantastic day.. ***

Don not judge people so fast, I don't think that you like to be judged that way?

Thank you for your help, and everyone else.

Auf!

[ekaterina]

If you go through my posts you will see that I thanked few times, so I don't really know what your problem is? Ok I didn't thank you right away...you're right but don't put other people in there too...

Another thing is I thanked everyone in the first post...so whoever reads the post it's thanked and if they feel like replying ok...if they don't that is fine too.

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End of discussion...from my side.

[archergirl]

Okay, girls. *blows whistle* Time out. I think both of you have made your points. Let's get back to the astrology. :p

From my view, it probably would have been a better idea to put up a 'saying thank you' thread (perhaps via one of the moderators) instead of singling out a particular person, especially a new one, because you, Ekaterina, are definitely NOT the 'worst' part of the problem!

There are other people who have been posting on here for a LONG time, and have had *several* charts 'done' for them, quite recently, who have not, to my knowledge, thanked the many people who contributed to their threads. It is a widespread problem, not only on the horary threads, but on the other ones, too.

Ekaterina, in Tikana's defense, those of us who frequently contribute a lot of time, energy, and experience to the threads, sometimes feel let down by the perceived lack of thanks by [some] users of the site. This does not mean *you* specifically, only in general.

I suspect that maybe your thread was 'the straw that broke the camel's back' (sorry Tik, to call you a camel:p ), so perhaps you will not take this too personally. Because there was a delay between the final post on your thread and the 'new' posts you were planning to do, it is easily understandable that Tikana thought you would be another one who comes to the site for free readings, then disappears without explanation. Clearly you *did* participate in your thread quite a bit, and you have explained that you will contribute further. We certainly hope this is the case, as new members who are still 'learning the ropes' in astrology are very welcome here.

I hope this will go some way toward clearing up any misunderstandings and/or bad feelings.

Peacefully,
AG:)

[ekaterina]

Hello Archergirl,

Thanks for your input...I appreciate it.

I understand that many people come and go, but I was really not planning on doing that. I am new to horary..in fact..too new...but I want to learn :).

I did not want to agrue with Tikana, but if this problem is persistant, it is not nice, as you said, to single me out...like I am the only one.

I didn't post right away because I know it is time consuming plus I am new so it goes double for me :)....

[ekaterina]

Quick question I know this is horary :) just a litle concern....

But I have to ask :) .....

Lilith - I have her in my 5th house in my natal chart, and it really worries the heck out of me. I know that it has to do with being afraid of responsibility (kids), or menstrual problem/concieving problems?

this could be interpreted cuz I am already waiting loooong time....to explain lilith....

I am a bit confused.....

because when looking at the horary everything seems to be working for me ...and I dont have a lot to wait....

[archergirl]

Hi Ekaterina,

I am not well-educated in Lilith, as I don't use most asteroids, minor planets, etc. in horary. I am sure there is plenty of information out there, but I personally do not pay attention to them.

It may very well represent a fear of responsibility, but you say that you are eager to have children, so clearly you are not *too* afraid of responsibility! ;) It *may* also represent troubles in conceiving, but you have said that you have not really *tried* to conceive, so there is no way to really tell whether Lilith 'works' in your chart.

Sometimes when we are afraid of something happening or not happening, we look around to find as many reasons as we can for it. In other words, if you are secretly worried that you will not be able to have babies, you might try to find 'reasons' in your chart for the thing you are afraid of. Does this make sense? You find what you look for.

Unless there are other indicators of troubles with pregnancy, etc. in your natal chart, and unless you are concerned that you have some medical reasons as to why you would not be able to get pregnant, I *really* wouldn't pay much attention to Lilith. Worrying about not being able to get pregnant, will only make getting pregnant that much harder.

Horary charts have a remarkable degree of accuracy, and there is something to be said for just *trusting* that what is yours (like a baby) will come to you, when it is ready to do so. This means you should try to put away your worry, and enjoy your life *as it is*.

Best wishes,
AG:)

[ekaterina]

Yeah I think you are right :-)

Big picture looks much better....

Other signs in my natal are not bad...when I look at it all together...it shows delay but...good outcome at the end so :) I think that I'll be fine.

Looking forward to 5-6 months from now :-) ...I'll visit a doctor in the meantime...just to make sure that from medical side everything is fine :-)...

thanks a lot :sunny:

[ekaterina]

Hello everyone, :)

Didn't forget you guys..just didn't have time to come.....working non stop :(

Anyway I still have not been to the doctor concerning pregnancy....ask me why? I do not know...just scared of what I might hear.......and I know it sounds silly but........................................

I have been taking folic acid, vitamis, minerals for the past 4 months....started exercising regularly and started eating better :) ......my periods for the past two months have been right on time....which is the first time in my life ....so now that they are regular I am hoping that I will get pregnant soon :)

After tikana's answer....I had a consultation with another astrologer and she said October is the month which is what tikana said too.....SOOOOOO
I hope you guys are right :-))))))))))))))))

sending many hugs your way:) :) :) :) :)

[smilingsteph]

Ahh I wish you the best of luck!! Wow what an interesting thread..to say the least...
Not to say that you did not thank anyone because you did earlier, but
Sometimes we are not always thanked for what we do....but goodness that you do, in the end will be repaid....
I work in the hospital all day....helping Dr's, patients, literally saving lives....I may get one thanks for the million things that I do, but I do it because I love it...plus I do it because of my love for people and my job/career. The one thanks I get makes up for the millions I dont get...plus just simply knowing I am helping within the grand scheme of life makes me simply smile!
So if you love what you do you get repaid with self-satisfaction...if you are looking everytime you do something nice for a big grand "thanks" you may not always get one...so pat yourself on the back for helping others...
I know that I have been helped many times by these wonderful astrologers and I think back that I may not have thanked Draco, Lissa and others but I truly appreciate all of the beautiful people on here....
Now back to the pregnancy thing...
If you are of normal childbearing age...under the age of 30....I know crazy to think that, because so many are having them at more mature ages...but if you are under thiry and have been trying more than six months to get pregnant then it is time to go get tested...not you either...it is cheaper and easier for the man to get tested...sperm in a cup...if that is fine then you go and look at the woman...us women are so complicated, if we look to the man first then we can simplify the problem...anyhow, if you are over the age of 30 then the average time to get pregnant is about a year to a year and a half...then it is recommended to see your Dr. if conception does not take place...
Also according to my nursing education it is better to have sex every two, or every other day...if you do so every day the potency of the sperm is decreased...also do not put anything into the vagina...not even lubrication as it can also decrease the potency of sperm...
I think that you are doing all of the right things...folic acid is so very important for you and for a developing fetus...exercise and proper diet too!! If you do not get pregnant by the end of this year I would see a Dr. Trying to get pregnant is so stressful that your body may not even ovulate because you are so stressed...maybe clomid an oral drug to help with ovulation can be of help....
I wish you the best of luck and keep us all posted!!!!!

[tikana]

Hello everyone, :)

Didn't forget you guys..just didn't have time to come.....working non stop :(

Anyway I still have not been to the doctor concerning pregnancy....ask me why? I do not know...just scared of what I might hear.......and I know it sounds silly but........................................

I have been taking folic acid, vitamis, minerals for the past 4 months....started exercising regularly and started eating better :) ......my periods for the past two months have been right on time....which is the first time in my life ....so now that they are regular I am hoping that I will get pregnant soon :)

After tikana's answer....I had a consultation with another astrologer and she said October is the month which is what tikana said too.....SOOOOOO
I hope you guys are right :-))))))))))))))))

sending many hugs your way:) :) :) :) :)


Hey Ekaterina

i wish you a possitive answer by november. *perfect birthday present for me* keep us posted
but do go to the doctor's .. a lot of health problems of the baby can be solved before your pregnancy.

hugs
TIk

[ekaterina]

Thanks to both of you for your feedback....

You are both right about seeing a doctor, I know this myself, that i HAVE to go :) uhhhhhh but I do not know why I am being such a baby about all this, I always find a excuse not to go.....not a smart move at all...and I have to change it.

I heard about clomid and that is one more reason why I should see the doctor it might help ....with all the other things that I have changed....

It is so hard to find a good doctor around here and I think that a big part of my fear, have quite a few friends that were give wrong diagnosis and had lots of problems becouse of it....

I've been searching for the past few days non stop for a pre natal specialist ...don't wonna go though general practicioner....

Anyway I will keep u posted :)

Hugzzzzz

[tikana]

[QUOTE=smilingsteph]
Now back to the pregnancy thing...
If you are of normal childbearing age...under the age of 30....I know crazy to think that, because so many are having them at more mature ages...but if you are under thiry and have been trying more than six months to get pregnant then it is time to go get tested...not you either...it is cheaper and easier for the man to get tested...sperm in a cup...if that is fine then you go and look at the woman...us women are so complicated, if we look to the man first then we can simplify the problem...anyhow, if you are over the age of 30 then the average time to get pregnant is about a year to a year and a half...then it is recommended to see your Dr. if conception does not take place...
Also according to my nursing education it is better to have sex every two, or every other day...if you do so every day the potency of the sperm is decreased...also do not put anything into the vagina...not even lubrication as it can also decrease the potency of sperm...
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When read your statement, it made my heart tweak *not in a good way* A lot of women in america do not choose to be moms after their 30th birthday.

these are statistics
Of women trying natural conception:

At age 30, 75% will get pregnant within one year.
At age 35, 66% will get pregnant.
At age 40, 44% will get pregnant.
Within four years after trying to conceive naturally:

91% of 30-year-olds will be successful.
84% of 35-year-olds will.
64% of 40-year-olds will.
Of women who try in vitro fertilization:

30% will give birth at age 30.
24% will at age 35.
17% will at age 40.

question is how often are these women having sex?

Then a woman must watch what she eats.. same goes to her partner. Taking vitamins and etc might be importnat.

so you say have sex every 2 days.

1 year has 365 days

365 days divide by 2 = 184 chances for getting pregnant.

out of 184, you will have days when a woman's fertility is at its peak.

so literallyt you have 184 chances of getting pregnat in 1 year.

why a woman cannot get pregnant? The most common reason is STRESS. stress kills a regular menustrual cycle. If a woman is under 30, she sees a lot less stress. You need to replenish luteinizing hormones (LH) and follicle stimulating hormones (FSH), two of them are heavily affected if a woman is going under stress or experiencing interurption of ovulation.


The easiest way to tell if that is the case is by monitoring monthly cycles, by monitoring regular or irregular periods, no periods, or abnormal bleeding often indicates that you aren't ovulating, a condition known clinically as anovulation.

Doctor might prescribe Gonal-F or injections medicine that will literally grab sperm and lure into the uterus. They are called "super-ovulation" drugs. However, the first choice of the doctor *1st stepping stone* are Clomid and Serophene (clomiphene). Both of them increase luteinizing hormones (LH) and follicle stimulating hormones (FSH) volumes in woman's body

i am not a doctor, so do not start surfing the net with "buy clomid".. btw .. Clomid is not steroid.

If you have a goal, in Ekaterina's case, pregnancy, you must know your and your partner's body before you make a decision to actual go through pregnancy. Pregancy will stress out a woman's body to unimaginative level of stress. So to all people who want to have children, go check with the doctor before you make that decision. If it takes to take DNA test to determine any kind of alarms, all power to you. Blood tests may not reveal all answers. DNA will.

Tik

[starlink]

LOL!! Boy did I have a laugh again (always with you AG!)Okay, girls. *blows whistle* Time out and then this one:
suspect that maybe your thread was 'the straw that broke the camel's back' (sorry Tik, to call you a camel:p ), . I have been feeling pretty sh.... these last 2 days and this put a big smile on my face!!
I also totally agree with this one Smiling:
I may get one thanks for the million things that I do, but I do it because I love it...plus I do it because of my love for people and my job/career. The one thanks I get makes up for the millions I dont get...plus just simply knowing I am helping within the grand scheme of life makes me simply smile!
We can all learn from this one!! There is no better feeling than just knowing that you have helped, but then, that is me with my Sun in the 6th house and Moon in 12!
Ekatarina (are you Russian?) I wish you loads of luck and hopefully October will be THE month for you and a warm welcome to you !! Star.

[starlink]

Hi Tik! Long time no seen. My mom got her 5th child when she was 47!!! Tralala!!!, as a matter of fact, in that same street where she lived at the time 2 other ladies also got pregnant at 46! They made a group picture with the Milkman (you know the jokes with the milkman, in those days he still came with his bottles to the door). My partner was born when his mom just became 47!! Ah, life is sooo unpredictable! My daughter is 35, is not even married yet and cant wait to have babies. I hope late pregnancies run in the family....

[smilingsteph]

In Response to TIK-
If you are familiar with the reproductive system...sperm live in the vagina for up to five days!!! So you dont need to have sex everyday to get pregnant...if you wait then you get stronger sperm that can work around the clock to get to that egg...so if you are sleeping and you ovulate then the sperm can go to work! Less stress on you and your partner to have sex every day!! Putting stats up that are not relevant like saying you only have so and so many chances a year to get pregnant is very stressful to those trying to have children...Some women ovulate more than once aka twins and others dont ovulate every month...
In response to the over thirty thing...
I said in my first entrance to this thread that it is crazy to think that after the age of thirty the chances of getting pregnant decrease....I stated it is crazy because so many women are choosing to have children at more mature ages...LOOK AT the thread please so you dont twist my words around.....
Geez talk about waiting up to three months for a DNA test...STRESS CITY there!!!!! Most geneticists would not even do a DNA test unless there are genetic factors that lead to defects within the family...plus they are very expensive and a moral factor comes into play....
I agree with TIk in one respect....relax and let things come natural to you and your body...have fun having sex and my main thing was to not worry about having sex everyday...talk about pressure, that waiting two to three days is great and will be just fine!!!
I am 28 myself and I dont plan on having children for another five years...or so, so I would not ever judge anyone for having a child later in life...

[Rae]

Regardless of what an horary shows, if it is denied in the natal, the horary is useless.

Looking at your natal chart, if I have cast it correctly, with you (the wife) having Leo rising in 24 degrees and Moon in 13 ' Taurus and your MC at 15 Taurus 51 min., then I say YES. You will have children. I checked your husband as well. Both charts show children.

Rae :)

[tikana]

In Response to TIK-
If you are familiar with the reproductive system...sperm live in the vagina for up to five days!!! So you dont need to have sex everyday to get pregnant...

** where did i say EVERYDAY? well unless your year is 184 days then yeah that would be having sex every day***

if you wait then you get stronger sperm that can work around the clock to get to that egg...so if you are sleeping and you ovulate then the sperm can go to work! Less stress on you and your partner to have sex every day!!


*** i never brought up having sex everyday ***

Putting stats up that are not relevant like saying you only have so and so many chances a year to get pregnant is very stressful to those trying to have children...Some women ovulate more than once aka twins and others dont ovulate every month...

*** the stats are very high. a doctor needs to look at a person individually to tell her what the heck is preventing her from having children if that is the case ***

In response to the over thirty thing...
I said in my first entrance to this thread that it is crazy to think that after the age of thirty the chances of getting pregnant decrease....I stated it is crazy because so many women are choosing to have children at more mature ages...LOOK AT the thread please so you dont twist my words around.....

** This widespread belief HAS NOTHING to do with Fertility itself. A woman's hormones are developing when she is a teen and they are a rollercoaster. So she has a lot more chances of getting pregannt. Women in the US and in the western world choose to build their careers first before they become moms. By the way, look at the history, girls were getting married at age 13 at the turn of the century because everything was about a survival., death rate of the babies was extremly high, death of a mother during birth was very high as well. So logically i can see where the belief comes from.****

Geez talk about waiting up to three months for a DNA test...STRESS CITY there!!!!! Most geneticists would not even do a DNA test unless there are genetic factors that lead to defects within the family...

**** ahhh where do you live? I live in LA, i got my DNA results back a few months ago, and NO i wasnt trying to get pregnant.. i needed a test results to confirm if i have a certain string. No one complained no one asked me WHY. ***


plus they are very expensive and a moral factor comes into play....

*** not they are not.. most of them covered by your insurance. you just need the doctor to write up a letter why you need one with a good explanation.. I wrote mine but my doctor added more stuff. My insurance had no problems with it ... i got my test results within 3 weeks. Paternanty DNA results come 2-3 months later because they need to compare it with 2nd set of DNA. if my future's baby's health or life would be at risk because i was not aware of something, morals go down in the drain.. yes i do support stem cell research.. sorry that is just my 2 cents. btw.. i bet you have not been diagnosed with unknown medical condition. I have been literally suffering with condition X all my life. No one on both continents know what is going on with me. tests are all negative for everything that is remotely possible . 3 of those conditions are impossible to get, newborns dont get it. Ever since i could talk, i was complaining. The pain comes and goes. You name it i went to specialists at UCLA, USC, Mt Senai direct specialists. No one has a clue! They all say we know about this condition but you are not supposed to be born with it. i am 15th case known. Two of them have died due to other medical issues. YEs, researches went through comparaing everyone's health histories and etc. Nothing stands out. It wont kill me but it is annying as hell not knowing the true diagnosis. DNA is my only chance of figuring out what it is going on because all traditional medicine and alternative have failed.. If everythign fails, you become DESPARATE. You seek answers. That is why i am so passionate about DNA research.

there are 2 specific DNA sequence tests available : infertility and pregnancy loss
YES, DNA can answer those questions. A physician can only scratch the surface.

In pregnancy test, DNA specialists look at a woman's chromosome. Specifically any changes in chromosome structure or number and changes in the Fragile X region of the X chromosome *that is for a woman*

for a man, they look at changes in chromosome structure or number, mission regions on the Y chromosome and changes in the cystic fibrosis gene

in loss of a pregnancy
they look at

for a woman: any changes in chromosome structure or number
changes in the fragile X region of the X chromosome

for a man
same as a previous test

this is as hardcore accurate as it gets..

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I agree with TIk in one respect....relax and let things come natural to you and your body...have fun having sex and my main thing was to not worry about having sex everyday...talk about pressure, that waiting two to three days is great and will be just fine!!!
I am 28 myself and I dont plan on having children for another five years...or so, so I would not ever judge anyone for having a child later in life...


** this is not about you or me. this is about Ekaterina and her chart. My answer is YES. She is getting pregnant.**

Rae

There are plenty of people who are parents with who have barren charts. I wouldnt even go any further. I would NEVER ever tell a client that he/she cannot have a child just judging by a chart. Fertility from a medical standpoint has come long way of solving infertiility problem. My friend's chart is fertile as spring's meadows. Does she have children? NO. why? she does not want any. My other friend has a barren as barren chart as anyone i have ever seen. Guess how many she has? 5 kids.. all natural born. Doctor may advise on not haivng child because of some kind of liver problem or something along those lines. That is totally something else.

Starlink

OHH I know.. there is no such thing as absolutely cannot have a child. My best friend's dad got his wife pregant at age 59! she was 42. LOL go figure!

Tik

[Rae]

Rae

There are plenty of people who are parents with who have barren charts. I wouldnt even go any further. I would NEVER ever tell a client that he/she cannot have a child just judging by a chart. .

Starlink
Tik

?? :confused: Watcha talkin bout there Starlink? I told this questioner that she WOULD have children. And I never said anything about "barren".

A chart will show if you're going to or not going to have children even if you are NOT barren! It may be that you don't have them because you're barren but it also may be for other reasons. But it WILL show in the chart.

RC :)

[starlink]

?? :confused: Watcha talkin bout there Starlink? I told this questioner that she WOULD have children. And I never said anything about "barren".



Sorry, was not me who wrote this!!

[Rae]

Sorry, was not me who wrote this!!

Oops. Me sorry too. That was "Tikana" who wrote that.

Lot of confusion round here... :38:

Rae

[Rae]

Rae

There are plenty of people who are parents with who have barren charts. I wouldnt even go any further. I would NEVER ever tell a client that he/she cannot have a child just judging by a chart.

Tik

Tikana,

It was my belief that the lady who posted this question (in another forum which is what I think you were referring to) and who's answer was indeed negative, wanted the truth.

Why ask if you don't want the truth and as an astrologer, to do that is wasting everyone's time (and money if they are paying) if you try to twist it and just give them hopeful words when what they want and need is truth so they can accept it and deal with it. JMHO

I don't give out what I believe to be false hope when its clear there is none and I wouldn't want an astrologer who did do that. If I want encouragement I'll go to a friend or relative. That's the way my teachers taught me as well.

You say you would "NEVER" do that? Then I would NEVER come to you for answers if I were seeking one because IF I were seeking advice, I would not be seeking amusement but truth.

Not being hostile here, Tikana, just honest. We just have different opinions here.



My friend's chart is fertile as spring's meadows. Does she have children? NO. why? she does not want any. My other friend has a barren as barren chart as anyone i have ever seen. Guess how many she has? 5 kids.. all natural born.

Starlink

Tik

Hmm. Would like to see their birth time info if you cared to post it. Maybe you just didn't see it in the charts. :)

Rae

[proluna8]

Dear EKATERINA, I have seen you natal chart and yes, things are complicated with the pregnancy you are looking for. Have you visited the doctor? Ask for a study of you fallopian tubes, they are probably obstructed. Have you ever suffer from bronchitis? (this is just to check the degree of the damage)
Hope to hear from you soon, proluna8

[proluna8]

Hi EKATERINA, I have checked your natal chart and yes, ther seems to be a little problem, have you visited a doctor? ask for a study of your fallopian tubes, I think the problem is there. Have you suffered from bronchitis? (this is just to understand the degree of complications)
Hope to hear from you soon, proluna8

[proluna8]

Hello Draco, I am new here and I didn't realise this section was only for horary. Could you tell me why there is not a health section in the regular natal charts section?
I ask you this because I have learnt to read health issues on the natal chart and don't understand why health is not there?
It's late, I'm tired: hope I made sense.
Thank you in advance, proluna8

[tikana]

[QUOTE=Rae]Tikana,

It was my belief that the lady who posted this question (in another forum which is what I think you were referring to) and who's answer was indeed negative, wanted the truth.

** how did i miss this reply?? usually horary last only short time.. so i say go to the doc talk to him/her see what options she has.. ***

Why ask if you don't want the truth and as an astrologer, to do that is wasting everyone's time (and money if they are paying) if you try to twist it and just give them hopeful words when what they want and need is truth so they can accept it and deal with it. JMHO

** Rae, lets look at logical side. let's say a person asks is he/she sick? then the answer is YES. what you think he/she will do? go to the doctor. If the answer is NO, then you wont do annual checkups for the rest of your life just because horary said ages ago NO? i am just rambling.. if there is an answer NO because of health .. i wouldgo for a check up and find out what is wrong. ***

I don't give out what I believe to be false hope when its clear there is none and I wouldn't want an astrologer who did do that. If I want encouragement I'll go to a friend or relative. That's the way my teachers taught me as well.

** i wont read health questions for anyone.. i would run charts on a pregnancy for me but i wouldnt do for anyone else.. it is just out of Hippocratic Oath***

You say you would "NEVER" do that? Then I would NEVER come to you for answers if I were seeking one because IF I were seeking advice, I would not be seeking amusement but truth.

**Health issues are involved i am not getting involved. ***

Not being hostile here, Tikana, just honest. We just have different opinions here.

** i know you are not hostile .. what i am saying is pretty simple. there are ways of getting pregnant.. fertility pills, artificial insanimation, egg donor. they were not avaialble during Lilly's time.. the sky is the limit! ***


Hmm. Would like to see their birth time info if you cared to post it. Maybe you just didn't see it in the charts. :)

** lemem get a permission **

Tik