Tricky one... 3rd person question

[caninnc]

Ok here's my new lesson... 3rd person questions...

Ok the question asked is by me about 2 people who have no direct impact on me. A relationship I know is in conflict so my question is:

How and when will they break up?

here's the chart...

http://micheledyck.com/stuff/breakup.jpg

Ok so here's were I get confused. I am asking the question so I use myself as 16Tau

Sometimes a third person will ask a question in which they have no direct role to play. For instance when someone asks about a friend who is about to have a baby. In such cases the querent would be ruled by the planet ruling the ascendant. The astrologer nevertheless should ignore their ruling planet and concentrate only on the significators for the friend and her expected baby.

So my significator doesn't matter... but one of two people in this relationship is nice to my face but I have heard she talks bad about me behind my back... so I consider her a secret enemy so I am looking at her in the 12th house. Which makes her 2Ar so she is Ma (aggressive) in the 1st house (ego) in Taurus (stubbornness). Her partner is in the 7th house of Scorpio which makes her also Ma...

Which leads me to my confusion? How can both be the same significator? And how do I read that answer?

Unless I see her a public enemy then she is still Ma because the 7th house cusp is in Scorpio and her partner is 7th house so they are again the same significator...

This makes my brain hurt a little...

Always coming up with more to learn,
Michele

[Summery Joy]

Are you asking this question personal reasons? Is there any benefit or loss on your part if they stay together or break up?

Would your question about their relationship be considered (in anyway) a blast from the past if they knew it had been asked?

[fensi88]

Because you know that person (who talks bad about you) I would rather chouse 7H (open enemy), ruled by Mars, and her partner is represent with 1H, ruled by Venus. In this case you are Moon, but as you said on start that is not matter, so Moon is cosignificator of question too

[caninnc]

I have been trying to sort this out for over a week and I can't seem to make any sense....

So the one who is my enemy is Mars in 1st house in Taurus (a secure and stable partner)... the partner is Venus in 7th house in Sag (a fun-loving partner)... I am the Moon in 11th house in Pisces... (as usual the sensitive friend) which doesn't really make a difference... but that means they are both happy in their respective houses.

My question was how and when will they break up?

It looks like they won't. And that's great. I am happy for both, even my enemy.

That was a hard chart for me to understand! Maybe no more questions about people I know.
Michele

[fensi88]

I am not sure that they will be happy because of future oposition between Ve nad Ma. But it seams that you will sort things out with your enemy because of future sextile between Moon and Ma!