Lot of stuff in the 9th house

[kislany]

Hi everyone, I'm new here, and also quite new at learning astrology.
For the moment I'm learning by examining my chart and reading up on different meanings of placements, but I have a looong way ahead :)

I'm quite puzzled when I'm trying to understand and connect the meanings, because what I'm looking at right now - I have quite a lot of planets clustered in the 9th house (sun, moon, mercury, venus, mars), almost all in Taurus (venus is in aries).

Could somebody maybe help me a little with understanding this odd clustering?

From what I understand: taurus is quite stubborn and 'earthly' in everything is doing, grounded (although I don't feel always like that), determined to bring things to a closure, once they've started it. Quite a materialist in nature, loves all sensual, good food, money, earthly pleasures :)

The 9th house shows long journeys (now that's a given for me, I'm even living currently 2000 km away from home), religion (not religious at all, although spiritual and with interest in occult).

Sun - is my sun sign (taurus)
Moon - is my mood, my dreams, my dark side (if I am right...)
Venus - what I like, pleasures, so I gather I love travelling abroad to exotic locations:)
Mars - what I do I do it fiercely, with passion?
Mercury - deals with communication

I'm just so confused as how to add all these things together to understand what does it mean for me to have all these planets in the 9th house.

Any help truly appreciated!

kislany

[wilsontc]

kislany,

You have all the pieces now all you have to do is fit them together! :) The 9th house is about "expansion", whether that is expansion of travel, the mind, or the soul. Taurus is (as you mention), all about being practical. So you are "expansive" in a practical, earthy kind of way. It seems for you this has to do with the urge to know (9th house) how to practically (Taurus) use your energies! ;)

Practically,

Tim

[astro.teacher]

Many Planets placed in the ninth House can be mean a frequent change of religion and many travels. You say that the Sun is in the 9th house with these Planets, are there any Planets within 9 degrees conjunction with it? If there are, these Planets are considered under Combustion (weakened). If they are conjunct within 17 minutes, they are considered "Cazimi" (strengthened). The fact you have Moon in the 9th as well shows the same as many Planets placed in this House. You will also study a wide variety of subjects. For a deeper meaning of the Planets meaning, look around your chart to which have House cusps the Lords belong too. For example, Libra in the 5th House cusp, Venus found in the 9th would indicate traveling for pleasure, and sometimes traveling for your children from foreign countries & etc.

[kislany]

Thanks a lot for your replies!

Unfortunately degrees and conjunctions are something that I haven't learned about yet, they seem more adanced than the level I am at right now.
Just in case it's of interest, I'm linking here my chart, maybe it helps?
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?rs=3&btyp=w2gw&&cid=8x0fileqH8Wv4-u1100268356

Thanks again,

kislany

[Frisiangal]

Hi,

I have a very similar chart to yours housewise, and also have Sun, Mercury, Venus in the 9th in Taurus trine Virgo Ascendant. Moon trines the lot from 5th house Capricorn. Like you I also have a 12th house Jupiter in Leo, although Jupiter rules my I.C., whilst Sagittarius is intercepted in yours.

You may like to study foreign languages, even if only for foreign holidays, so that you are able to converse with people (Mercury in 9th).
You could meet and marry a foreigner (Mars and Venus mutual reception in 9th house), leave your home (Jupiter of your intercepted 4th house Sag.) in 12th) for good to take up residence and live the majority of your life (Sun) literally on foreign soil (Taurus).
Moon could be indicative of 'following your heart ( Moon conjunct Sun); also your 'foreign' ancestry compared to the country in which you reside. The change of country may be (or have been) a challenge because it will be seen as an adventure tostart a new life. ( Aries on 9th house cusp).

You could speak a language other than your native tongue, that has become automatic and 'your own' (Moon to Mercury-Sun), although you may never be able to get rid of 'the accent' which will remain part of you and terms you of foreign origin.

Although Taurus is said to be materialistic and enjoy the physical comforts and values that life provides, there will come a time when circumstances enable you to see that there is more than that which is simply tangible (Scorpio axis, plus Jupiter in 12th house). You may have lived with an inferiority complex, letting others lead you. As you form your own opinions, based upon what has physically (Taurus) occured, even though they relate to theoretical and emotional experience, you may hopefully begin to believe in yourself more. As you become interested in other philosophies, your mind will open to beliefs and ideas that will enrich your life in a manner you did not conceive as possible.

Anyway; that's what happened to me :D .

F.

[kislany]

Ok. Now if I didn't believe in astrology, I'd say 'uncanny and spooky'. You're totally right on spot!
Let me go down to your points and elaborate - will highlight my words within your quote. Darn, I still have goosebumps.
If this doesn't encourage me to study astrology, don't know what! Will print our your post and go over it and compare it with the chart, I think I'll learn a lot from this.

Hi,

I have a very similar chart to yours housewise, and also have Sun, Mercury, Venus in the 9th in Taurus trine Virgo Ascendant. Moon trines the lot from 5th house Capricorn. Like you I also have a 12th house Jupiter in Leo, although Jupiter rules my I.C., whilst Sagittarius is intercepted in yours.

You may like to study foreign languages, even if only for foreign holidays, so that you are able to converse with people (Mercury in 9th).
Very true. I speak 4.5 (half is Greek, long story!)
You could meet and marry a foreigner (Mars and Venus mutual reception in 9th house) (did that I'm Hungarian, married a Cypriot), leave your home (Jupiter of your intercepted 4th house Sag.in 12th) (yup, was born in Romania, lived a few years in Hungary, then in Germany and finally settled down in Cyprus.) for good to take up residence and live the majority of your life (Sun) literally on foreign soil (Taurus). Very true, see above. I'm literally 2000 km away from home :D
Moon could be indicative of 'following your heart ( Moon conjunct Sun); I did - went to Cyprus, the island of Venus (Aphrodide), fallen in love and I'm now married there. also your 'foreign' ancestry compared to the country in which you reside. Yup.The change of country may be (or have been) a challenge because it will be seen as an adventure tostart a new life. ( Aries on 9th house cusp). Trust me, it was. I was married at that time, had to leave my parents, brother, (now ex) husband to follow my heart and come to Cyprus, where I knew NOONE except my hubby. Literally started my life all over again.

You could speak a language other than your native tongue, that has become automatic and 'your own' (Moon to Mercury-Sun), although you may never be able to get rid of 'the accent' which will remain part of you and terms you of foreign origin.
Yep, very true. I speak English as my first language, although Hungarian is my native language. One day a few years ago I woke up and realised I had dreamt in English. Even finished university in Cyprus in English. People always try to figure out where I'm coming from (I picked up some Bavarian accent when I was living in Germany a good few years back)
Although Taurus is said to be materialistic and enjoy the physical comforts and values that life provides, there will come a time when circumstances enable you to see that there is more than that which is simply tangible (Scorpio axis, plus Jupiter in 12th house). You may have lived with an inferiority complex, letting others lead you. Sad, but true. Won't comment though :) As you form your own opinions, based upon what has physically (Taurus) occured, even though they relate to theoretical and emotional experience, you may hopefully begin to believe in yourself more. Yes, and I'm learning to finally say NO :) As you become interested in other philosophies, your mind will open to beliefs and ideas that will enrich your life in a manner you did not conceive as possible.
Again, totally true. Born in an (ex)communist country, i was raised an atheist. Went to church maybe 4 times in my life. I am still not a religious person, but I'm exploring spirituality, pretty much all aspects of it, and I have a few new beliefs that even now my parents and brother think are 'wacko' and which cult did I join? :D Although it's nothign so extreme, I simply believe in reincarnation and karma, trying to learn more about how to activate my 6th sense and I've started studying astrology.

Anyway; that's what happened to me :D .

Totally uncanny! thanks for this, I really needed it :)
Btw, does it show anywhere that I need an ego boost now and then? It's just amazing how a few pats on the back, or a little encouragement will do. They'll get me loyal for life:D

F.

[Frisiangal]

Btw, does it show anywhere that I need an ego boost now and then? It's just amazing how a few pats on the back, or a little encouragement will do. They'll get me loyal for life:D


Well; appreciation of our value in the form of a 'tangible reward' is what we strong Taurus types live for, of which the pat on the back is just one. None of this whispering 'I love you' or 'you're so good at what you do' in our ears. Say it with flowers or a pay rise:D.

Ego is related to Mars.....in Taurus that could mean ' tangible appreciation for what, or the work I do'. Mars is in the upper part of the chart, so you seek value of your worth from people rather than valuing your own worth (lower part of chart). The thing is that you have a beautiful trine between Mars-Pluto-Uranus in Earth. You're like a top-cranked, oil-filled bulldozer machine. You just 'plough the field' and get on with what has to be done and you make sure that you do it as perfectly (Virgo) as possible. It's a part of you that everyone sees and recognises, although they may not actually say so. With the opposition from Mars to Neptune, you may feel that people take advantage of you ...which you allow and they probably do. If you're prepared to be the ox, others might act as the bird sitting on your back enjoying the view whilst they feast off the ticks ( parasites - Neptune) you provide.:)

With the 3rd-9th-12th house influence, does/did your work involve the tourist industry ? Flight, taverna, hostess? All my jobs abroad involved some sort of application of an international 'service'; foreign magazine, foreign exchange banking, 'a bull in a china shop' of a foreign hotel, where I gave more hours than I was ever paid for!!!:D

I study a calculated point in astrology between Moon and Earth called Black Moon Lilith. Its position can be suggestive of 'that which never physically manifests in outer form'. But it is also suggestive of the 'inner reality'....the gut feeling of first nature instinct or 6th sense laying dormant just waiting to surface. This point is close conjunct your natal Mars in the 9th house. On a 'non-physical-level' it could account for the feeling within you that you never get the 'tangible' expression of appreciation you deserve for all that you do. Black Moon Lilith-Mars has been shown where '(finding) the fighting courage within' to act out what you inwardly feel has played a significant role. With the opposition to Neptune, you can easily take on a guise and portray a figure that is nothing like who you truly are and what you feel inside.

On a 'higher' 9th house spiritual level, Black Moon Lilith could also refer to the non-existence of any religious values that your upbringing involved. But it doesn't mean that such spiritual values do not exist. They lay dormant within you ( Mars-BML- Jupiter in 12th) just waiting to be woken and released....rather like Snow White and Sleeping Beauty after the kiss from the prince! It could begin with a 'sexual awakening' (Mars-Black Moon Lilith) that then develops into something that goes beyond (9th house) what is considered a normal behaviour pattern. 9th house refers to 2nd marriages, so I expect your 2nd husband has had a lot to do with such arousals !!!:D
Incidentally, is it Cyprus where the worship of the Minotaur (Bull) arose in the Age of Taurus, or am I mistaken ?

P.S. If you want to use the quote block in a reply, the yellow icon on the right at the top of message display that looks like a dead sea scroll with mouth piece is the one you want. Scroll over text you want 'quoted', then click on icon. You can then add your own text underneath. If you don't want everything in a message quoted, I just use the copy and paste of the computer in taking out what is relevant, placing it in 'Reply' window, and then scroll over it and click on icon. Same effect.;)

F.

[wilsontc]

Frisiangal,

You said:
Ego is related to Mars

Perhaps, but ego is MORE related to Sun. Mars is about the actions we do. Sun is about the pride (ego) we have in those actions.

Egoistically,

Tim

[kislany]

Thanks a lot for your replies! A lot of stuff here to digest. I'm so glad I joined this forum, plenty to learn!
Will post back if I have further questions.

Btw, Frisiangal, it rings true what you say about tangible rewards. However, for me, it also makes my day when my boss says 'you did a good job with that project', even though I don't show it, it tickles me pink. Plus I'm very hung on words, what people tell me - they can make or break my day...For example, I discovered that words can hurt me real bad.
Must be my Neptune sqr. AC, huh?


I'm now trying to figure out if I have anything that shows I can develop psychic abilities, but I'm all Earth, not much in Water, so I guess I'll have to struggle more than others to gain this ability:D
Oh well, back to learning!

kislany

[Frisiangal]

Frisiangal,

You said:


Perhaps, but ego is MORE related to Sun. Mars is about the actions we do. Sun is about the pride (ego) we have in those actions.

Egoistically,

Tim

I was taught that Aries-Mars is "I am and desire". It's pure active energy that relates to me-me-me and what I can do. It's egotistical of nature.
Leo-Sun is "Creative Self expression", more about what "I" want as an individual.; i.e. self-ish and egocentric.

Who I am, what I do, and what I want may not necessarily relate to the same thing. But I don't mind spinning the coin to see both sides of it:D.

Tossing,;)

F.

[wilsontc]

Frisiangal,

I understand your taking the word "ego" from two points of view. However, since I like to simplify things in terms of keywords, I think of things astrologically as either x or not-x. So, for me, Mars is not-ego and Sun is ego. That way I'm not using the word "ego" for two completely different planets! ;)

This is also why I separate Mars, Ascendant, and Sun into:
Being (Mars), Self (Ascendant), and Self-Expresssion (Sun)

to make sure there is a clear difference between each

Keeping it simple,

Tim

[Lin]

Maria,
In this lifetime you are searching for your true identity. You will go to any lengths to find a way of life you "identify" with. (Neptune on 4th)
That 9th house will give you a lot of ideas and opportunities. The 9th house, first and formost means "additional education"....getting as much education that is possible for you. Next it means foreign associations and travel, politics, religious dogma, belief system, philosophy.... in other words, exercising your brain to it's fullest capacity.
In Taurus, you want it to "pay off", also indicated by planets on your 2nd house cusp. You want "validation" and the best way for someone to validate you is to give you money for what you do.

Take CARE that you don't overly value monetary gain. Taurus rules VALUES as well as 'valuables' and you want to find YOUR true meaning of the word "value." YOUR most personal definition of valuable may NOT be what is popular, what you were taught as a child, what your environment says it is... if you want to find your "authentic identity", then all YOUR definitions must your YOURS personally, or else you will be living someone else's "system" which is always dangerous to your spirit.
LIN