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Pluto9th
03-02-2007, 07:24 PM
Hi all,
I'm a little confused about the separating and applying aspects in a horary chart. Could someone provide some examples of how all that works? Thank you ahead of time!
Jen

Blandy
03-02-2007, 08:27 PM
Seperating aspects are what has already happened in regards to the question, and the situation in general. In horary you don't use seperating aspects to find out whether or not results will turn up negative or positive, you only use applying, because applying aspects are what's going to happen in the future.
I would say that seperating aspects are more reflective, if you've done something wrong, they can help you change, or if you've done something right it might be some kind of confirmation that you could be on the right path.
As well, in horary, most traditionalists only use Major Applying or Seperating Aspects, the square, opposition, trine, sextile, or conjunction.
Good Luck!t

Moondance
03-02-2007, 09:42 PM
An example may clarify. Suppose the question is "Will X and I have a relationship?". If one significator is Mars at 21 Taurus, and the other significator is Venus at 25 Virgo, this is a separating aspect which indicates "You've been as close as you're going to get". This is because Mars moves more slowly than Venus, and Venus has already made a perfect trine to Mars at 21 degrees of Virgo and is now"moving on". Help?

Pluto9th
03-02-2007, 11:28 PM
Hi Blandy and Moondancer,
Thanks to the both of you for your help.
Moondance,
I basically understand what you are saying, and the example helped.
So Venus was partile with Mars at 21 degrees, but now at 25 degrees she is out of orb? When she was 24 degrees in her sign, was she also out of orb? Isn't the allowable orb 3.5 degrees for this (on either side?) I don't remember what the orb is supposed to be. I'm still very new to all this.
Are there any horary books with exercises to practice with? Of course, the forum has examples, too. But I like exercises in a book to practice this.
Jen

Moondance
03-03-2007, 02:14 AM
Actually, I have asked myself the same question and am still a bit confused. I don't think orb is used this way;separartion is separation period, I think. However, Anthony Louis wrote a good text on horary. the simplest to read (but not popular on this site) is John Frawley's The Horary Textbook. He bases his methods on traditional authors but discards portions that he found don't apply (like the strictures against judgement). Good luck.

Blandy
03-03-2007, 06:03 AM
I forgot to mention too, a seperating aspect can also make an effect as powerful as a direct aspect if the Seperating planet is seperating from a planet, and then applying to another planet. It's called translation of light,
Seperating Aspects can mean several different things, like I said, it all just depends what context it is in.
As well, there's tons, and tons of information and examples on the net about horary,so it would be wise to read both books, and do research on the internet, but don't rely too much on examples, do what feels right for you because there's several conflicts among astrologers relating to horary, so just learn all you can, and do what feels best.

Pluto9th
03-03-2007, 09:07 PM
Hi Blandy,
Thanks so much for the information. I'll look at the book you recommended. I can see that I'm going to be busy!
Pluto9th