Astrology and relationships, predictibility?

[SimplyRed]

I have found over the years, this one of the least dependable predictive areas of astrology. Just viewing a divorced couple's chart where they have some incredible composite aspects. I have heard both sides of the story and know both people and after looking at their charts it seemed like does astrology really work. Jupiter conjunct Venus composite and sun conjunct moon. compatible synastry moons and it goes on from there.

I have done other couple charts and after hearing their stories feel somewhat dismayed at the outcomes of their relationship because of the aspects in both the composite and the synastry.

Have known a few couples with incredible stable marriages and look at their charts and actually say WHAT?

However, viewing natal charts for vocation or life purpose seems more easier and much more predictable. Electoral and Horary are incredibly predictive.
Progressions of a person's natal chart can really tell an accurate story related to events in their lives.

Anyone else find this in doing astrology?

Is there some other astrological factor in besides doing synastries, composites, the Davidson, comparing the overlay of the houses, midpoints.

Cultures, age, religion orientation, spirituality, families, jobs or what?

[SimplyRed]

I did some more research, Chiron may be something I have overlooked in charts.

[2rainbows]

i think a lot has to do with the ideas of the one doing a synastry for another. you cannot say this is good, this is bad, because what is good for some is not good for someone else, and vice versa, and a lot of times something may be quite obvious to onlookers, but not to the two within the relationship.
2rainbows

[SimplyRed]

Yes, You are right about that.

Maybe the Venus conjunct Jupiter too much of a good deal or they could not handle it. I guess it is like of like someone winning a million dollars and broke within six months.

Or becoming famous and turning extremely eccentric.

relativity factor plays heavy at times.

[2rainbows]

and another biggie is- astrology interprets the big picture and we are rarely in the big picture within a relationship!
2rainbows

[Teddybull]

Simply Red,
Your thread made me chuckle. I had married two of my sun trines (Gemini and Libra) and they both ended pretty loveless. Didn't have venus conj jupiter but had other good aspects.
When I looked back at my ex Gemini's chart I saw something phenomenal in our composite. I kinda blew me away:
We had a sun/moon conjunction conjunct the south node and in direct opposition to a venus/mars conjunction conjunct the north node. All within 5 degrees. It was so karmic.
So it leaves me with the same question you have asked...... most marriages with great aspects seem unhappy to me while sun squares seem most fulfilling. Not always the rule.....
I think there has to be some sort of religious, deeper tie that binds. Also, maybe everyone has their own karma so you can't pinpoint everyone's lesson to be learned. Some people might bind to a plutonic relationship in need of deep psychological transformation or a saturn experience to learn discipline and maturity. So this leads me to the question, where do we find in our chart what we attract and need that will 'seal the deal' in this lifetime?
Very interesting thread that I ask myself often. Blessings, tb

[SimplyRed]

TB:38: Karmic is right. Do we all know everything? What is the old saying, No one knows until behind closed doors.
The couple I mentione with Jupiter conjunct Venus. She left him for five years and came back all messed up. He helped her. Then she turned around and helps him. She has a boyfriend, he has a girlfriend. LOL, major odd if you ask me. The boyfriend and girlfriend cannot deal with the situation and how they always call each other up. I have no idea what the karma of that situation is. Not the first time I have seen a situation like that as well.

Blessings
SR

[Teddybull]

What a great relationship they have..... lots of forgiveness. They must just like each other.
You hear of these type of stories every now and then. I wonder if they got back together again how it would go? Maybe they just like to idealize each other...... an aspect of jupiter conjunct venus. Can they actually get along in an intimate relationship?
I can't help but ask, what aspects make for a great relationship? Filled with devotion, forgiveness, affection, understanding, respect and communication. My parents have been married 54 years and seem very happy. Not great synastry. She's a cap sun/taurus moon and dad's a scorp sun/gemini moon. They both have juno conjunct each others sun. I don't think Chiron makes any major aspect.... hmmmm.... nothing outstanding.
I think we will always battle these type of questions. blessings, tb

[SimplyRed]

Forgivness is an act of courage