why the extreme variation between ethics/morals of individuals & nations?

[JUPITERASC]

I'm creating a new thread for an exploration of the idea that perhaps there are no 'absolute' moral or ethical standards and "It's all relative" dependent on individual perception of 'right' and 'wrong' - but why is that?:smile:

[Moog]

Maybe it's astrological.

[JUPITERASC]

Maybe it's astrological.
Any specific ideas Moog?:smile:

[eedwards]

There is no such thing as an "absolute" in regards to moral or ethical standards. An individuals moral standards can be based on many things...religious teaching\upbringing, belief\non-belief in religious teachings, family upbringings, psychological strengths or weaknesses, society, the ability to differentiate right from wrong, (but...what is right and\or wrong?), brain damage, life experience ...the list can go on...

I have seen and participated in your recent threads, (in reference to morality and ethics), citing the biblical commandment "Thou Shalt not Kill" as supporting your argument regarding killing = murder. In reality...the Commandment , (in Hebrew), was "Thou Shalt not Murder". The (mis)interpretation came from the King James translation of the Hebrew text. Murder in Hebrew meant "putting to death without cause\reason". So...execution\killing is not murder because it is "putting to death with cause\reason".... Is this morally correct? In my eyes...yes...yes...it is.

Morally, I believe it is absolutely correct to kill, (put to death with a cause\reason), a murderer, (someone who kills without cause or reason). Others, however, may not....based on their family\religious upbringing, psychological strengths\weaknesses, the ability to tell right from wrong, etc... There are no absolutes.

[Neptune Rising]

Agreed with Eedwards, no absolutes. Human behaviour, which includes behaviours resulting from an individual's morality and ethical views, is as varied as: the variety of fingerprints, the multitude of arrangements of all the planets at any one point in time, the patterns of veins made in a leaf, the cloud formations in the sky, basically, how on can one reduce human behaviours and reasons why into an absolute? To me, this is the answer 'why'. Why does someone cry... why does someone laugh.... why does someone think something one day, then change their minds the next... why does someone have one moral viewpoint one day, then change it the next because so and so happened... the beauty of the unpredictibility and variety of life outside of the logical statistics. Again, my answer is neither right or wrong, its just one viewpoint and each and every one of us will have a varying viewpoint. :smile:

[Anachiel]

I'm creating a new thread for an exploration of the idea that perhaps there are no 'absolute' moral or ethical standards and "It's all relative" dependent on individual perception of 'right' and 'wrong' - but why is that?:smile:

Probably due to the facination with linear thinking rather than holistic.

[Sweet Pea]

Even nations have birthcharts. You can see some of them on astro.com.

http://www.astro.com/nat/nat_e.htm

In the UK chart, you can see how the work ethic is dissolved by having Pisces on the cusp of the 6th house. Its ruler Neptune is square to Venus in the 5th house. Thus, there are many benefit claimants in the UK who prefer to laze around amusing themselves rather than go out to work. I'm not sure how this tendency can be avoided with such a chart.