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piercethevale
03-29-2012, 03:38 PM
Howdy, This is too interesting to just post in one of the other threads I've got active about the USA.
Obama's progressed chart currently has the same Asc. [21* Aries 30'] as the USA natal. to the minute. His progressed chart Nadir 15* 17' is the same as my natal Uranus.. and down to one minute of a degree! The Sabian Symbol of studying the Sabians.
His progressed chart has a Lilith / N. Node conj. in the 27th of Leo.
A progressed Venus 01* Virgo is about to conj. the USA natal Part of Change @ 02* Virgo 48' 43" [and it's about time too]

Mars has gone into the 26th of Libra which is a good sign. The Sabian for the 26th degree of Libra is [Rudhyar] "An Eagle and a Large White Dove Change into Each Other
Keynote: The interaction of the Spiritual will and of the Love principle when critical needs arise."

The Part of Fortune for this progressed chart of Barracks is the 27th of Libra. "A Military Band Marches Noisily On Through The City Streets
Keynote: [I]The aggressive glorification of cultural values.

His Mercury @ 27* Libra 12' that is the Part of Distress of the USA natal chart and is getting full contact in conj. with Saturn presently.

Progressed Jupiter is almost conj. the USA natal Part of Nobility and Honor [day formula] which is @ 28* Capricorn 11' 05"

Saturn at 23* Libra 15' but also conj. transiting Saturn just 4 degrees separation at the present time. As it is in retrograde it will go direct again

piercethevale
03-29-2012, 04:32 PM
NOTE: NOW I'M DISCUSSING A DIFFERENT CHART. A COMPOSITE CHART WITH THE USA NATAL. THE FIRST POST ABOVE IS ABOUT OBAMA'S PROGRESSED CHART.


In the composite I cast for Obama and the USA natal, the Part of Fortune comes up @ 02* Sag. 16'...the Part of Luck for the USA natal is 02* Sag. 32' 52". ..and the Part ofSuccess @ 01* Sag. 35' 09"

The composite Ceres comes out @ 14* Aries 33' the USA natal Part of Increase and Benefits is 14* Aries 37' 23".

The composite Moon is Separating but still conj. the USA natal Part of Transformation [which I prefer calling 'Awakening to Higher Consciousness' as it involves Uranus and Mars... not Neptune or Pluto.

On a somber note is that the composite chart of Obama/USA has Sun at 25* Cancer 35' 40" and Mercury at 28* Cancer 25' 15" ..the USA natal Part of Tragedy /Fatality is 28* Cancer 33' 09"

Also the I.C. is of concern as it is 20* Gemini 17'...the USA natal Part of

Fraud is 19* Gemini 23' 24"

I 'd also like to mention an observance by me. The USA natal Part of Commerce [Asc. + Mars - Sun] @ 29* Pisces 44' 19" is also the Part of Treasure of the USA natal chart @ 29* Pisces 12' 40"


The composite Pluto is the same degree of Scorpio as my Asc.

Some may want to ponder the USA natal Part of Deceit @ 11* Cancer 49' 17" which is right next to the natal chart Sun @ 12* Cancer 38' 28"


Last item..of particular note and interest to all Yanks, the Part of Daughters, the Part of Mothers and the Part of Fathersfor the USA natal chart. I saw the three Sabian Symbols for them and had to laugh..they make sense...

For Daughters it comes to 06* Virgo 53' 39", Sabian Symbol [Marc Edmond Jones] 07* Virgo "A Harem.
Early stage of development of individual soul, with full yet binding life-protection. Freedom from responsibility or restraint."

the USA natal Part of Mothers is @ 06* Sag. 05' 27". The Sabian Symbol [Marc Edmond Jones]
07* Sagittarius: "Cupid knocking at the door of a human heart.
The happiness which awaits every man willing to accept its fullness. Rounding out of experience. The call to love's feast."


The natal USA Part of Fathers: @ 19* Capricorn 20' 57" and the natal USA charts', Part of Disappointments is @ 19* Capricorn 58' 20"

piercethevale
04-13-2012, 05:28 PM
Observation: That Saturn is presently @ 26* Libra 20" , and that this chart has progressed Mars in the 26th of Libra [25* Libra 19'] is most intriguing
...read my thread on the Part of Transformation. Compare the 20th of Leo ...the DESC. of the event chart next April 2013.
20* Leo [Rudhyar] "A LARGE WHITE DOVE BEARING A MESSAGE.

KEYNOTE: The answer of spiritual agencies to thorough, sustained and victorious individual efforts."

the 26th of Libra: "AN EAGLE AND A LARGE WHITE DOVE CHANGE INTO EACH OTHER.

KEYNOTE:[I] The interaction of the spiritual Will and of the Love principle when critical needs arise."