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09-30-2005, 06:13 AM
Here is my Boyfriend's chart. He is 27 and not yet got a job justifying his education.
Could anyone tell me when he will get a good job?
Also I'll be grateful if you could tell whether our relationship will last the test of time.
09-30-2005, 02:35 PM
I am NOT a predictive astrologer but I CAN give some ideas on likely issues which could keep your boyfriend from getting a job:
- Sun (self-expression) conjunct (energy is combined with) Nadir (inner world) conjunct Neptune (spirituality, also confusion) opposite (energy is over-excited by) Midheaven (outer world): your boyfriend may be confused about WHO he is and so is uneasy when in the outer world
- Uranus (friends, also rebellion) square Mars (being, also action, anger): your boyfriend may be quick to rebel angrily at others
- Jupiter (expansion) opposite Mercury (thinking/daily work): your boyfriend may have inflated (expansive) ideas about what he can do, far beyond his actual capabilities
- Saturn (duty, also restriction) square Venus (physical, also money/relationships): your boyfriend may feel restricted in his abilities to relate to/make money from others
- Most of the planets are on the left (self) side of the chart: your boyfriend may be so concerned with what the world can do for HIM that he doesn't think about what HE can contribute to the world
As to relationships, I believe that they start from the INDIVIDUALS and then, depending on how each person feels about "relationships" the couple develops from there. Your boyfriend's issues with love and potential selfishness have already been mentioned. In your case, you have Uranus (friends, also rebellion) conjunct Venus conjunct Mars conjunct Descendant (others), so you may want to be "friends" in a relationship and may actively/angrily rebel against the limitations that a relationship puts on you.
If your boyfriend can come to terms with feeling unloved/unloveable and you can come to terms with continually wanting variety in a relationship, your relationship can last as long as you both (together) want it to.
10-03-2005, 06:22 AM
Thanks a lot Tim
Your insights are very valuable.
10-19-2005, 08:16 AM
My realationship with Boyfriend is a bit down :(
I am very expressive when love is concerned and he is not so expressive.
He is very caring concerning when trivial things(for me). But when it comes to core issue, he does not care my feelings at all :(
10-19-2005, 02:28 PM
About the natal chart of your boyfriend. There's lots to say, but I'll try to stick to the interpretation relevant to your question.
Your boyfriend has a responsible, dutiful, conservative, methodical, ambitious, practical, and well organised WAY of thinking (Mercury in Capricorn). That's all well and good. But it quite different than his free, lively, expanive, outgoing, idealistic and even careless ego (Sun in Sagittarius). I wouldn't be surprised if he *thinks* about and *considers* career paths that don't really allow him to *self-actualize* and *express* himself. That's also probably why he studied something that he can't find use for in his practical life.
Neptune is also in Sagittarius. Although this may have a generational effect, the fact that it is in conjuction with the sun, it probably makes your boyfriend a wild dreamer (at best!). Again, I wouldn't be surprised if he's living is his own world fanatacising about being a starving yet self-actualized artist (or something to that effect).
The sun (ego) and Neptune (dreams) are both opposite to the MidHeaven, the ruler of career and the representative of authority (do I need to explain?). They are, of course, in conjection with Nadir, which may make him more interested in personal life, home, love etc. Mercury in the 4th house will increase this effect (I know that it's in a different sign, but this will only mean that his contradictions bring him back to the same place).
He also has an explosive 2nd house with Pluto and Uranus there. These two extremely powerful planets could mean anything really in such placements so I won't blab much. All I can say that it is important that your boyfriend has more than enough money. And let me tell you, if phylosophy was a money maker, your boyfriend would be filthy rich :)
On top of everything, your boyfriend has Virgo Asc. It will make him critical and picky. He will also complain a lot.
There are lots of career paths that could be suitable for your boyfriend as long as they deal with abstract matters (I don't think he'll be the best economic analyst in the world!). With his North Node in Libra, he needs a work environment where competition means collaboration. He will not be happy where he has to fight win or lose battles. He prefers win/win situations.
I would take a shot at your relationship with him, but this post is already too long. Read it and tell me what you think, then maybe we'll take a look at the relationship.
Hope I've been helpful.
11-02-2005, 08:52 AM
First of all apologies for a late reply.
I am tempted to know all about my boyfriend :)
I feel like he is living in the past. In the past he has been a responsible son, devoted brother and a brilliant student.
Strange that he refers to his teens as "when i was a kid" !!(He is only 27!!!)
Biggest problem with him is nobody knows what he really has in mind!
My feeling is that he is totally confused about what he wants. He seems to be inside a cocoon.
I am wondering what happened to him after 18.
His school friends can not believe that he prefers to be passive. He is kind of waiting for some miracle to happen.
It is true sorehearted,no one can beat him in philosophising.
What you said is correct About his current work environment. He is the undisputed king there.He always work overtime to help collegues!!
I guess he is very much interested in knowing people. He immediately picks all my non-verbal clues.
I dont know about his fantasies about being a starving artist, but he has spoken many times about his wish to become a monk!
Our relationship is very strange.My direct ways are not very helpful for his ego. Many times I thought of letting go of this relationship.
Nevertheless I come back to him. I have never seen him angry. I do love him for his kind heart and tolerant nature.
I feel he is quite something :)
11-03-2005, 12:00 AM
So, you're tempted to know everything about your boyfriend. Who woudn't be? :) I don't know where to start though. There are lots of things to say and this forum is definitely not enough to type a full report. I guess I'll try to help you figure out why he seems lost.
First of all, my own experience has shown me that natives of virgo rising and moon in virgo are prone to depression. Your boyfriend has both placements. Also he has both his moon and saturn in the 12th house, this surely increases the problem. He also has his south node in aries, which is usually a sign that knows what it wants, but under stress it's just as indecisive as a depressed libra (imagine that!). Now I don't know what's going on in his life right now, but all these placements cannot be helping.
You said "I feel like he is living in the past. In the past he has been a responsible son, devoted brother and a brilliant student. " I don't know what you mean, but I've already told you what his home life means to him with his strong Nadir. Adding that to the fact that he doesn't like his career path (MC), he will always look back and remmence about the good old days when he was still at home. If he lives too far away from home, that could make matters worse. Maybe (and I say MAYBE), starting his own family could help him regain sense of self.
All of this is only so bad *IF* he is under stress. I've tried looking at the current transits to get some insight about why he's being negative. First thing first, the North Node is currently opposite his natal North Node. This is going to be a tough time. He'll have a tendency to stay in a rut (to say the least). Pluto is transitting his natal 4th house, that means struggles at home and with loved ones (the 4th house which is suffering the transit) and with career (MC, which at a point was opposite Pluto). Pluto's effect is long. And it has been transitting the 4th house for years now.
The idealistic yet delusional Neptune is transitting right on top of the cusp of the 6th house (which means it has been in the 5th house). The transit throught the fifth house may have made his dating life difficult. In the 6th house it will affect daily work and services that he provides. More than average daydreaming about the perfect job is expected. And with crazy Uranus already transitting the 6th house itself, he might actually quit his job (or get fired).
Saturn is transitting his 11th house, maybe he has been letting go of friendships that he felt weren't true or useful. Jupiter is transitting the 2nd house, he will feel too rich to need to save.. watch out for that.
I know that everything that I have said is negative. Of course all the placements I have mentioned have their positive effects, it's just that their negative effects put together may give you some insight about why he's being strange. And about him talking about becoming a monk, let me assure you that anyone with a strong Sagittarius placement will say something like that at point of their life. And when he says "when I was a kid", that his Mercury in Capricorn speaking.. Cappies feel older than they really are.
Hope I've been helpful... and that I haven't depressed you.
11-03-2005, 08:50 AM
No no you haven't depressed me at all. Your insights are very helpful.
I know the indecesive woes of a depressed Libra (I have been there many times :))
I think he doesn't like the way his career path has gone so far. He stays somewhat away from home, but seldom goes home( I literally had to push him last time). He is reluctant to start his own family(Sag effect may be).
If he really quits this job and tries for something related to his qualification, I'll be more than happy.
somehow I didnt find everything very negative. I positively wish that these transits will shake him out of his passivity and force him start afresh :)
Hi - I like to look at numerology to get a sense on timing. When I look at your boyfriend, I can see that he in a 7 period since he was born. 7 is very much a vibe of a monk seeking solitute. This period will last until he is 32 when he shifts into a 1 period for 9 years. The one will get him launched into independece. This will coincide with his Pluto Mercury transit with Merucry ruling the 10th house I would expect to see dramatic changes in his career focus.
Following the 1 period is an 8 period which bodes well for management, leadership and material mastery. the 8 period lasts 9 years and then the rest of his life he will be in a 9 period of completion and service.
His life path is a 13/4. This is telling as the karmic lesson of the 13 is to overcome laziness/escapeism and to accept responsibility. Sun/Neptune speak to that negative side of the conjunction. Neptune does rule his 7th house so I would be careful about co-dependency in this relationship.
11-21-2005, 02:48 AM
Our relationship is going bad now.
Every word leads to an argument. He keeps silent while I deliver monologues.!
He seems to be detached from my feelings. He doesnt want to make a home but I wanted it very much.
Its because I'm hanging in, we havent broken up yet.
I have a hard time letting go. Because he is the only guy I feel love and attraction at the same time.
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