Appalling Venus and Seventh House Aspects

[pixie1982]

Please can anyone give me some hope?

I have Venus in Cancer in the Seventh House.

However, all the aspects are terrible:
My Venus squares Pluto, Saturn, Jupiter and Mars!
Although it does trine Uranus.

Am I correct in thinking that all of my relationships will be terrible?

Does anyone else have these aspects?

pixie x

[Belgianmoonguy]

May be love is harder for you then someone else
But you think too negative

Is Gem or Cancer on the 7th cusp?
Does Venus aspect the ruler of the 7th house?

And what was the nature of the relations you had until today?

[SolarSiren]

Ooooohhhh goodie, another Venus aspecting Uranus person!
Don't fret Pixie...Your love will take the path less traveled, but will come.

Venus in Cancer wants to be & give love in a sentimental, deeply emotional, protective way. Well, Uranus is having none of that!!
He wants you to be totally free & not be bogged down by heavy emotions.
So you'll pick partners who express these feelings....Especially if you don't express it in yourself.
Another Uranus/Cancer/Venus person is Angelina Jolie....She expresses it by being a nurturing mother(Cancer) to different types of humanity(Adopting foreign babies) who are underdogs (Uranus).


What does Venus rule natally in your chart??
Whats your 7th/5th house ruler?

If say, Venus rules your 2nd, I'd be watchful of my income in the hands of another person(7th).

[pudgyguts]

What does Venus rule natally in your chart??
Whats your 7th/5th house ruler?

If say, Venus rules your 2nd, I'd be watchful of my income in the hands of another person(7th).

This has been my experience! i have venus in the 7th in gemini and it is conjunct saturn, trine uranus in libra in the 10th and opposite my moon in sagittarius in the 1st. Saturn is ruler of 2nd house cusp and venus is ruler of 5th house cusp.

I have had two relationships where we lived together and both have ended. Both still owe me alot of money. Something always seemed to happen to their job not long after we moved in, which left me as the main financial provider.

as for the venus trine uranus, i have found that i never have what are termed 'conventional' relationships, in my current relationship we are very happy being together but living apart and have no plans to live together. I personally find living with someone very difficult, and after a few months tend to feel that my freedom is very restricted. I really need my space (uranus), but i also get caught between wanting a more settled conventional set up at time too (saturn!). so i have found this aspect very tricky to live with. the saturn aspect doesn't seem to stabilise uranus as much as create a tug of war scenario where i bounce between the two.

but then to add to the pressure cooker, Pluto in the 9th is square venus and the moon, creating a mutable t square.

At times i definitely temtped to just give up on relationships all together!

[Cassandra]

Pixie, go and make music or another kind of art. Create beuatifull things for urself. It will u relax u and u have the ablity to create. When u are relaxed and feeling good about urself, love will come to u. Honer ur strongly aspected Venus by being creative and she will reward u. For she is not only the Godness of love, but the patroness of arts as well.

[pixie1982]

Thank you so much for the replies,

I am not quite sure how to answer some of the questions, or how to post my chart, although it is listed with all of our charts on Arian Mavericks viewing list.

Belgian moonguy -
My seventh house starts with gemini, and ends in leo.
I would assume that venus is ruled by cancer in my chart?

Until today my relatiionshios are a bit wierd, I am quite shy, I attract attention from men I do not like and the ones I do like are not available.
My first relationship was very intense with a scorpio man with plenty of problems, I took care of him in many ways but he was very possessive/depressive and unpredictable. Finances we always very up and down. We spent money as fast as we got it, and enjoyed it too. It was a very isolated, destrustive relationship and I became very unhappy yearning for freedom. Breaking up was very hard and he pursued me for almost a year and made some suicide attempts. He is ok now.

I was then single for a few years with no romance at all. I did not want any.
My last boyfriend we cheated on me and told many lies, making another girl pregnant and he now lives with her in another country. We are on friendly terms and I have no hard feelings, I feel I understand why. He was a similar impulsive personality to my first boyfriend also with complicated/dodgy finances. He was unemployed for the majority of our time together, was not possessive and much less intense. That suited me fine and I was happy.

Solarsiren -
What does Venus rule natally in your chart??
-I am not sure, Cancer?
Whats your 7th/5th house ruler?
-My 5th house starts in taurus and ends in gemini.
- 7th spans gemini-cancer-leo

Yes I often feel that I want to be free and am drawn to the underdog. My mother does not understand why I never want to pursue the relationships with nice men and go for the 'losers'!

I am yopung and not unnatractive and often feel that life/relationships are passing me by while my friends seem to have nice loving supportive relationships.

Thank you for the encouragement, perhaps I will concentrate on being myself.

Sorry I could not answer the questions properly about rulers of houses and so on,
in case I have given the wriong answers here is my data from astro.com

Sun Leo 18°39'39 in house 8 direct
Moon Taurus 8°39'04 in house 4 direct
Mercury Virgo 5°23'15 in house 8 direct
Venus Cancer 26°36'25 in house 7 direct
Mars Scorpio 4°45'49 in house 10 direct
Jupiter Scorpio 3°16'47 in house 10 direct
Saturn Libra 17°48'52 in house 9 direct
Uranus Sagittarius 0°34'41 in house 11 stationary (D)
Neptune Sagittarius 24°26'26 in house 1 retrograde
Pluto Libra 24°31'16 end of house 9 direct
True Node Cancer 12°45'08 in house 7 retrograde
Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house.

House positions (Placidus)Ascendant Sagittarius 22°37'27
2nd House Aquarius 5°12'53
3rd House Pisces 22°51'48
Imum Coeli Aries 26°33'28
5th House Taurus 19°16'50
6th House Gemini 6°45'23
Descendant Gemini 22°37'27
8th House Leo 5°12'53
9th House Virgo 22°51'48
Medium Coeli Libra 26°33'28
11th House Scorpio 19°16'50
12th House Sagittarius 6°45'23


Angelina Jolie can be my new role model, I'd like some adopted babies and brad pitt!!!
thank you so much, pixie xxxx

[Pisceanfool]

I just want to add that a T-square can provide considerable strenght and mitigates the negative effects. The venus trine Uranus can cause more difficult problems i would guess, once you learn to channel the square into something creative maybe. Venus trine Uranus should give considerable originality in anything creative. Uranus bestows a bit of genius to what it aspects.

[pixie1982]

Thank you for telling me that.
I had no idea it was a T-square.
I have had a closer look and the squares are mostly with the 10th house. I guess this means I should avoid romance in the workplace, and perhaps it explains why my 2 main relationships both had employment problems when with me.

I have often been told I am creative and original, although a bit eccentric. I am a bit odd, I will blame uranus.


could anyone tell me what it means if 3 signs are in one house - in my case the seventh? 3 marriages?

[Pisceanfool]

could anyone tell me what it means if 3 signs are in one house - in my case the seventh? 3 marriages?

I dont think it has to do with how many marrages, but i would like to know also because i have 3 signs in my 1st and 7th house too. Also i wonder what it means with gemini covering my whole 4th house for family, or any sign covering a house.

[Belgianmoonguy]

In another thread here on this board involving marridge, it says that people with an intercepted sign in house 7 seem to marry more then once
And also you have mutable signs on the AC/ DC ax... so this helps also with marry more then once
In these days, i would replace marry by living together with your significant one

[Bob]

Pixie,

First off I should make it clear that the ancient system I use has original rulerships and a non modern house system.


I have Venus in Cancer in the Seventh House.

However, all the aspects are terrible:
My Venus squares Pluto, Saturn, Jupiter and Mars!
Although it does trine Uranus.


The house system I use puts your Venus in the 8th house which is not one of her strongest placements but, it is not too bad either. It does indicate that your early (before saturn's return) relationships will entail a few learning curves for you. This is especially so in all areas to do with finance, credit and secret romantic affairs on the part of your partners. These things coupled with your Gemini descendant can make for some quite frustrating partners during your younger years.

However, you Venus is not as badly placed as you might think it is. Sure Venus in square to your Saturn/Pluto conjunction in Libra adds a little weight to the fact that relationships may need to be carefully weighed up before you make any commitment (as a lover/partner or marriage), but the overall stats are ultimately quite good in your favour. Another thing for you to be thankful for is that she (venus) does not natally square your Venus/Jupiter conjunction - Two planets in a water sign cannot possibly make a square to Two more planets in another water sign; they have a trigonal relationship which acts like a weak trine.

Let's have a closer look at your Venus. Her aspects to the Saturn/Pluto are a couple of degrees past perfection; which means while you were in the womb there were some marital problems that left a subconscious impression on you. This impression was to expect let-downs and unreliability from others in close friendship with you, this is friends, family or partners. Fate therefore obligingly supplied the material in order for you to recognize and change this negative trait. It means you have to be very clear and very honest with yourself regarding the reality about those who get close to you.

Venus in trigonal relationship to your Mars/Jupiter conjunction. This describes your strong need to be part of an intimate relationship, it would seem that you would like a partner and children at some point. When activated by a time lord or directive activity it would add a certain amount of energy to your feelings; making you feel as though it is urgent at times. Jupiter's relationship with Venus is one of harmony, which indicates that you do have a certain amount of luck and help from him, when the time comes. On a psychological level, you have good, strong, honest feelings about what you require from a relationship which will be fulfilled in time. You are deeply passionate and require the same depth from a partner. There is some loyalty to be had for you; and plenty of fun along the way, it just has not quite reached your turn yet.

Personally, I would not say the Venus and Uranus are in trine because one planet in a water sign cannot possibly make a trigonal connection to another planet in a fire sign. However, very soon after your birth Venus would have moved into a trigonal relationship with Uranus which would have left its mark upon your psyche. Being connected by fire indicates that for a relationship to flourish both partners would need to give each other ample freedom and mutual excitement lest boredom will set in. It is though your own actions that a partner will come, the actions you take are related to what you get, so choose with care, take your time and make sure you know what your are getting.

Your Venus is disposited by the Moon in Taurus in your 6th house. This gets quite interesting because your Moon and your Venus are in mutual reception (in signs of each others rulership), which in your case is very good. Firstly this is good for your work prospects, indicative of being popular and well liked by your colleagues and bosses, it is quite likely you could/would do very well. With the Moon in harmony with Venus it shows that you are in touch with your instincts and feelings; and do not have much trouble expressing them in the right (private) circumstances. These two planets not only harmonize your 6th and 8th houses indicating fairly good health, they offer a stable home and family of your own. This is also a good significator for fertility with probably at least one feminine child. On a final note about Venus being deposited by an exalted Moon in Taurus, it indicates your instincts are finely tuned and in good order, they can be relied upon to instinctively read most situations from a gut feeling perspective.

I would have liked to explore some of the above in more depth but unfortunately I do not have the time. Your Venus shows many benefits coming your way, To peek deeper you need to know that she (venus) is in the bounds (terms) of Jupiter, she is also in the decanate of Jupiter and Jupiter is the exaltation planet of Cancer (your venus sign). Jupiter can be overindulgence, laziness, over-concern with luxury and run-ins with the law. Because Jupiter is in your 12th house you need to be careful not to fall foul to any misery caused by yourself.

The Almutem (overall chart ruler) of your chart is Mercury. You were born on Mercury's day and Saturn's hour. Your Sun and Mars are both in their rulership signs. As your chart lunar phase is 3rd quarter waning you should look to your pre-natal syzygy to understand what is going on in your birth cycle.

Sorry I only had time to skim the surface but this should give you something to get your teeth into for a while. Your Venus is actually quite good (I would be happy with it). The two things I would be mindful of if I were you is the retrograde Neptune right on your ascendant and Jupiter (your ascendant ruler) in the 12th. You truly hold the key to your own successes and/or failures.

Happy living

Bob

[astrobhadauria]

Dear,
You are quiet, shy, sensitive, sentimental, gentle, and romantic an your feelings are deeply attached to your family, old friends, familiar places and memories, and the past. Remembering and celebrating birthdays, anniversaries, family rituals, and other days of personal significance is very important to you. You seek caring, emotional support and security in love affairs(You are also Attrective person). You can be changeable and inconstant in matters of feeling and emotion. You desire peace and harmony in your home environment. You cling to those you care about like a crab that won't let go. Carried too far, your love and concern for others may turn into a clinging, possessiveness, don't-let-go type of relationship. Feelings of insecurity or feelings of being unloved or unnurtured may lead you to eat too much and thus gain weight. You desire for rich or sweet food may contribute to the problem. Your mother probably had/has much to do with your feelings of love(Like a Angle) and affection. You like to be needed and your personal charm, magnetism and sympathy make you a natural caretaker. You have a need to mother others.
You are charming, sociable and friendly and it is easy for people to see your loving nature( I Like this type person very much).Partnerships are generally happy and harmonious. But your desire for peace and harmony at all costs may be detrimental to you if you do not stand up for your own needs. You desire a spouse who is attractive and probably well off financially( I am not like this type). Creature comforts and enjoying them with your partner are desired. Take care that you do not get in the habit of expecting too much from others, though.You have a deep appreciation of the value of relationships( Tit for Tat).Too great an emphasis on affection might cause problems for you( Like playing games in water and there are a jump in deep water). A desire for the perfect relationship may be so strong that any imperfections in your relationship could be blown up beyond proportion. Balance and poise are necessary.You seek a partner that can supply you with "the good life". You want beauty, luxury and the finer things in life and you seek a partner who can provide these. Perhaps marriage will bring you to a higher station in life. Over-indulgence and over-emphasizing the sensual side of life can lead to problems. You must have a partner you feel is cooperative rather than competitive. If Venus is aspected poorly in your chart, then perhaps your partner's moral standards are subject to question.

[pixie1982]

Thank you for replying to me and taking the time to look at my chart,
I really appreciate it, and feel so encouraged. Thank you.

Bob - the system you used seems scarily accurate.

I have already experienced a few of those learning curves with finances and affairs.

Thank you for the encouragement that after 30 relationships will not be so troublesome or hard. A palmist once told me that I would not get married or have children until my mid thirties and I had not really beleived him but now perhaps it is all linked.

I am so pleased that my venus perhaps is not so terrible after all. I will look further into the retro neptune on my ascendent and my 12th house so I can be careful. I am aware that I have self-destructive tendancies.

P xxxx

[Bob]

Hi Pixie,

Thankyou for your kind remarks.

I would just like to clear up one little thing. Although I remarked that things would be better for you after Saturn's return, it gives me pleasure to tell you that you will not have to wait until then. There are some fairly major changes going on within you at the present; they will lead to some great times for you in the very near future. I have not had time to check these out for you as yet, but as soon as I do, I will let you know what I find (within a few days hopefully).

Good wishes,

Bob