8° Capricorn symbolic degree "A man falls on the ground near a wayside cross..."

[worrybean]

...what if this lies in my 7th house, 8°02' Я Capricorn True North Node?
it looks really bad if that is my future. is there consolation in the reverse "r"?
"Irascible, tactless, and sensual character over-indulging in food, lust, and luxury. No matter how lenient the members of one's entourage are, one's harsh and hurtful manners end up scaring them off. The cross symbolises a tragic destiny, but it may also point towards consolation and hope, provided one is willing to make the necessary effort to control one's base instincts."
am i doomed?

[sdh3]

...what if this lies in my 7th house, 8°02' Я Capricorn True North Node?
it looks really bad if that is my future. is there consolation in the reverse "r"?
"Irascible, tactless, and sensual character over-indulging in food, lust, and luxury. No matter how lenient the members of one's entourage are, one's harsh and hurtful manners end up scaring them off. The cross symbolises a tragic destiny, but it may also point towards consolation and hope, provided one is willing to make the necessary effort to control one's base instincts."
am i doomed?

This is one of the Janduz symbols, yes? They were originally written in French in the early part of the last century and then translated, re-phrased and THEN re-interpreted by Astrotheme. That provides a lot of room for error and misunderstanding. On top of that, the Astrotheme interpretation is almost entirely negative. No degree is inherenly negative or unlucky. IMHO, you should stick with the Sabian Symbols if you speak English. The Sabian Symbol for 8 Capricorn is "An angel carrying a harp."

---sdh3

[Mark]

I concur with sdh3. For comparison, here is the exposition of the Sabian symbol for nine degrees Capricorn. When read correctly, these two descriptions say the same thing, but the Sabians are much better at pointing toward the right path than describing the lesser choice (which is far too common a crime in astrology).

PHASE 279 (CAPRICORN 9°): AN ANGEL CARRYING A HARP.

KEYNOTE: The revelation of the spiritual meaning and purpose at the core of any life situation.

This picture simply says that "heaven is within us." All we have to do is to be open and listen to the total harmony of life, a harmony in which we play a part that is necessary to the completeness and meaning of the whole. In order to do this we have to surrender our separative ego- consciousness and flow with the universal current which, to the religiously minded person, is the Will of God.

This is the fourth symbol of the series. The technique it implies is that of ATTUNEMENT to the rhythm of universal life. Angels are to be considered personalizations of various aspects of this life, and totally subservient to its rhythms and purposes.

[worrybean]

ah, thank you so much, sdh3 & mark.
the website generating my chart does not say whether janduz or sabian, but has a link to sabian symbols, so i'm inclined to think it would use those in generating the chart. but then states:
"Interpretation of the 8° Capricorn symbolic degree
'A man falls on the ground near a wayside cross and a broken key.'..."
it seems this is yet another example of whether the count begins at 0 or 1? it appears the tick marks do not include the dividing line between the signs in the count. if this is why it should be 9 Cap & not 8 Cap, does it also mean all the other degrees are 1 lower than they should be? the obvious answer seems yes, but want to make sure.
thanks again :)

[Mark]

The mathematical conflict is due to the fact that some systems count from 0 to 29.99 and others count from 1 to 30. My Sabian list is presented from 1 to 30, so 29.3 is in the 30th degree. It's the same as the 1900's being called the 20th century.

[sdh3]

ah, thank you so much, sdh3 & mark.
the website generating my chart does not say whether janduz or sabian, but has a link to sabian symbols, so i'm inclined to think it would use those in generating the chart. but then states:
"Interpretation of the 8° Capricorn symbolic degree
'A man falls on the ground near a wayside cross and a broken key.'..."
it seems this is yet another example of whether the count begins at 0 or 1? it appears the tick marks do not include the dividing line between the signs in the count. if this is why it should be 9 Cap & not 8 Cap, does it also mean all the other degrees are 1 lower than they should be? the obvious answer seems yes, but want to make sure.
thanks again :)

The symbol you gave is not a Sabian Symbol. I searched the web and found it here (http://www.astrotheme.com/symbolic_degrees.php). As you may be aware, there are many symbol sets out there. On some sites they either don't know or don't care to make the differences clear. For your future reference, you can find Dane Rudhyar's interpretations of the Sabian Symbols online at a mindfire site (http://mindfire.ca/The%20Sabian%20Symbols/An%20Astrological%20Mandala%20-%20Contents.htm). These are the best of what is freely available, in my opinion.

If you are willing to spend for a book, I'd highly recommend Blain Bovee's book (http://www.amazon.com/Sabian-Symbols-Astrological-Analysis-Original/dp/0738705306). Like Marc Jones, the co-originator of the Sabian Symbols, Bovee analyzes the symbols in pairs, e.g. Aries 1 and Libra 1. I find this enormously useful but opinions in this area do differ. He also uses the shorter, original wording of the Symbols. Another book in that same vein is one by Diana Roche entitled "The Sabian Symbols: A Screen of Prophecy." (http://www.amazon.com/Sabian-Symbols-Screen-Prophecy/dp/1933303344/ref=pd_sim_b_2)

Finally, for a little history and background on the origins of the Sabian Symbols, try this page on the website of the Sabian Assembly (http://sabian.org/sabiansymbols.php).

---sdh3