Soul Mate or Delusion?

[wintersprite1]

Putting it bluntly, I can't, won't,and don't want to get over him!

Obsessiveness put aside, rest assured, I have still gone on with my life. This relationship was the most profound experience I have ever had.

I was hoping to get some feed back on the negative aspects... my MC conjunct Neptune chooses to ignore them! We never bridged well in verbal communication. It was like we "read" each others minds and moods. There were various obsticles and it stayed platonic, though it was left that we would move away and marry. Didn't happen, I freaked out and ran in the other direction. I still can feel what he is going through (but that is another story for another day)

I really enjoy working with relationships and Astrology. I use our charts for learning from and appreciate any interpretations. And yes, the conjunct ME and MA make me obsessive in lots of things. :cool:

TK


M (him) born 02/14/1960 at 4:48AM in Tacoma, Washington 122W27,47N14

T (me) born 12/30/1963 at 9:31AM in Zaragoza (Saragossa) Spain
0w53,41n38

[2rainbows]

Hello wintersprite,

How are things going currently?

-mercury square neptune is an issue.
-house 10 is a tricky placement for neptune.
-pluto trine ascendant adds to the intensity, possibly to the extent of neurotic tendencies.
-uranus in house 8 is an issue.
-pluto in house 8 is a positive.
-moon in house 7 likely adds to deception into your relationship.
-sun opposite moon likely creates nervous energy. and if not all ready, will very likely affect health.
-moon opposite saturn is beyond an issue, its not good.
-venus in house 1 likely binds you together strongly and for a long time.
-mars in house 1:
*may indicate the ability to combine a business and personal relationship, and the business aspect may help balance some of the intensity in the personal.
*conversely, this placement can bring on fights and conflict.
*may also balance mercury square neptune.
-saturn in house 1 is an issue.
-sun conjunct saturn is likely 'the boss' of your relationship.
-mercury conjunct jupiter adds to balancing abilities of the challenges between you.

Hope you are well,
2rainbows

[waterlilly]

[QUOTE]sun opposite moon likely creates nervous energy. and if not all ready, will very likely affect health.
-moon opposite saturn is beyond an issue, its not good[QUOTE]

why is that so bad 2rainbows? is it something hidden that's serious?

[2rainbows]

nervous/nerve energy can wreak havoc on health, waterlilly. worse it typically gives rise to psychosomatic illness. is psychosomatic illness real? no, but try telling that to the person suffering the illness. severe cases of psychosomatic illness can bring on diseases like cancer. overall nervous energy is rather unproductive and wasteful energy.
if you're asking on the my statement of moon op sat, garnered from astro.com- this can be quite difficult in a relationship, especially emotionally. the chief danger is one will not interact emotionally/emotionally vacant/distant, or there may be no mutual understanding of each other's emotional nature. this can also give rise to being hypercritical and/or intolerant of each other's faults.
Health,
2rainbows

[Wave]

Hi,

I have had a look at your synastry and at your composite horoscope.

In the synastry chart you both have some powerfull aspects (Moon conjunct Pluto, Moon conjunct Uranus, Venus conjunct Mars etc.) so there is no wonder you feel the intensity of this relationship until today.

However, the more interesting part was your composite horoscope.
You have your composite Sun, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, Saturn all in Aquarius - this is another explanation why you feel you were meant to be together.

If I understand you correctly - you were the one who has left this relationship and now you regret it - is that correct?

Wave.

[wintersprite1]

Hi,


If I understand you correctly - you were the one who has left this relationship and now you regret it - is that correct?

Wave.


Actually, no regret. I knew that I had many lessons to learn in life, and they would not be pretty. I asked myself, if I was the person I would want to be with, and the answer was no.... I figured once he and I went through our "Karmic" Lessons, we would somehow find each other again. I know his life has been far from comfortable also. I don't know, I guess when I think of him, it is kind of like dessert. Over the years when he is "in trouble", I can feel it (it is like he tugs at me). Recently, his world was shattered and I had "visions" of what had happened a week prior to the event. A month later, I was in the hospital emergency room with my son and I felt the tugging again.... In my mind I sent a "Message", go see your brother Mike, he can help... I am busy with my own emergency. The tugging became frantic everytime I thought of his brother. It turns out, his brother had died that night unexpectedly. So, after 20 some years I called him. He was delighted to hear from me. We exchanged info on how to get a hold of each other... it was 6 months ago, and neither of us have. I just figured we both have a few more clicks of the karmic wheel turning. The feeling I keep getting is that I need to bring him "home". I sense his journey has been hard, and it is time to rest, although his lifestyle won't permit it. Ack, I will give him another 20 years and check in...:p

TK

[rahu]

hey sprite,
the composite chart of your relationship/exrelationship has a venus/sun/saturn stellium.this shows a very loving and devoted nature on the face of it.this stellium is sextile to juno which raises the expectations of longterm stability.the moon is opposed to mercury which shows a very sensitive and intimate level of communiction.with the emotions and the mind so linked,you can almost read each others thoughts.this closeness is probab;y what has you hooked.
on the down side,juno is square to chiron and the pluto/uranus midpoint.this indicates that a longterm relationship would be difficult to sustain as there are many differences in attitudes.the uranus element leads to breakup and the pluto shows the potential for violent breakup.
neptune at midheaven is conjunct the venus/uranus,sun/uranus and saturn/uranus midpoints and neptune is also square to mercury and the moon.these aspects indicate that deception was involved from the beginning.different attitude are present but the neptune element hid their importance.sorry to be harsh but i believe you were in fact decieved and trying to hold on is a delusion on your part.
rahu

[wintersprite1]

hey sprite,
the composite chart of your relationship/exrelationship has a venus/sun/saturn stellium.this shows a very loving and devoted nature on the face of it.this stellium is sextile to juno which raises the expectations of longterm stability.the moon is opposed to mercury which shows a very sensitive and intimate level of communiction.with the emotions and the mind so linked,you can almost read each others thoughts.this closeness is probab;y what has you hooked.
on the down side,juno is square to chiron and the pluto/uranus midpoint.this indicates that a longterm relationship would be difficult to sustain as there are many differences in attitudes.the uranus element leads to breakup and the pluto shows the potential for violent breakup.
neptune at midheaven is conjunct the venus/uranus,sun/uranus and saturn/uranus midpoints and neptune is also square to mercury and the moon.these aspects indicate that deception was involved from the beginning.different attitude are present but the neptune element hid their importance.sorry to be harsh but i believe you were in fact decieved and trying to hold on is a delusion on your part.
rahu


Thank you Rahu for taking the time and effort into your post. No, you were not harsh at all. I had sensed the difficult aspects early on, and it was nice to have them validated. So, are we mutually dilusional or am I the only one wearing that party hat?

I think the biggest problem I saw was that we had unreal expectations of ourselves and the other. He was not going to be the "provider" that he felt he should be, as did I, and I am not the domestic, understanding, bake you some cookies, here let me bring you your paper and slippers, kind of spouse he expected and I expected I had to be. I was hoping with the growning up (shoot, I am assuming on his part) we have done, unconditional acceptance could be a reality.
:38: Reality....hee hee

TK

[rahu]

hi sprite
you seem to be very committed but i would think he was playing games
rahu

[marama]

hi sprite...Just wanted to say I very much relate to what you are saying here.

marama