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kyle8921
01-11-2007, 08:49 PM
*gasp!*
Ok, so here's my problem. Right now, I have like no energy.. ever. I try to exercise, I try to get straight A's (which I DID get this quarter.. but I was 5 points short of an A in French class!) I try to practice my violin a lot, I work part-time like 15 hours a week.. and I have to deal with family and social life. Piscean Sun isn't too good for all of this. Not to mention I don't have ANY natal Fire signs! But like.. yea.. no energy. Anywho... I've realized that when I'm 27 (in 10 years!) my Secondary Progressed Sun enters Aries! So, I've kinda decided to just let my life completely suck until I'm 27, and there's NOTHING I can do about it.
But then part of me thinks... "no!" The stars don't control me. I am in control of my OWN destiny! I don't know...
Anyone else have problems like this? Like, for example, within the next year, my Progressed Mars and Jupiter, at the SAME time, both enter Gemini. So I'm kinda freaking out. Is this good or bad?
What I mean is like.. maybe it's better to not predict my future... because I start to worry about it, or anticipate it and accept that life now *****... or I try to change it...
(Or maybe this is all because the current 1st-House Neptune Square Natal Mars... that's not good either)
Betelgeuse
01-12-2007, 09:59 AM
and there's NOTHING I can do about it.
Bieng Pisces is not bad, no sign is better than other, they all have thier own qualities and defects. Saying you cannot do anything about it it's actualy just your pessimism, stop thinking badly, try bieng more optimistic cause anyone does mistakes in life and everybody has it's problems ( we live in a imperfect world, only God is perfect ), trust more, think more positive and stand-up for yourself, giving up is not the option cause you know that what you fear you cannot escape, try defeating it.
But then part of me thinks... "no!" The stars don't control me. I am in control of my OWN destiny! I don't know...
Astrology is 1% fatalistic interpretation and 99% free-will interpretation. Do you think the doctrine that all facts and events exemplify natural laws should be in that way when it comes to astrology ? Appereance can be decieving, even in astrology, i'l tell you in this reply further that things aren't so relative as they seem and explain about the determinism of Neptune Square Mars.
What I mean is like.. maybe it's better to not predict my future... because I start to worry about it, or anticipate it and accept that life now *****... or I try to change it...
Indeed it's harder to predict your own chart, cause subjectivity comes and it's hard to be obiectiv about it, you can do it by bieng honest whit yourself ( like looking at the old guy in the mirror ), but if you worry to much, it's better to try it later when you are more prepared.
Anyone else have problems like this? Like, for example, within the next year, my Progressed Mars and Jupiter, at the SAME time, both enter Gemini. So I'm kinda freaking out. Is this good or bad?
Why should that be bad? I only see that your mentality and communication skills will get much jupitarean ( open minded, expansive, jovial, enthusiastic, wise, spontaneous, faithful etc.) and martian ( direct, energetic, courageous, impulsive, active, forceful etc. ). That sounds like good news, but it's up to you to develop such characteristics, you will have a great opportunity for such thing, just don't try chosee the bad way of bieng jupitarean/martian ( aggresive, erratic, hypocritical, revengful, fanatical, illusive, deceptive etc ). So it's up to you, don't be freaked out, cause it's not bad, nor good, it's up to you. Also the Sun proggresing in Aries will give more martian charactestics, you will have much more energy, but why wait for 10 years when you can work and prepare for it now.
Ok, so here's my problem. Right now, I have like no energy.. ever. I try to exercise, I try to get straight A's (which I DID get this quarter.. but I was 5 points short of an A in French class!) I try to practice my violin a lot, I work part-time like 15 hours a week.. and I have to deal with family and social life. Piscean Sun isn't too good for all of this. Not to mention I don't have ANY natal Fire signs! But like.. yea.. no energy.
Don't be so hard on yourself, stop pushing yourself, you need rest, but that rest isn't physical, it's psychological, you always think that you have the world on your shoulders, you fear mistakes and always put the guilt on yourself and bieng martyr. Bieng Pisces it's the sign of religion and the trust in divine forces, try trust that much more, you also need to change your mentality, whit the aspect you showed in your reply, here it is:
(Or maybe this is all because the current 1st-House Neptune Square Natal Mars... that's not good either).
Neptune shows compassion, understanding, also illusions and psychological status. Squaring Mars shows escaping which means giving up, but like I said above, this square can be usefull, i'l tell you why. Square means tension, strain, needing adaptation in both sides, it's hard and karmical, but extremely evolutionary. Mars needs to adapt, find a motivation, a purpose, also find stimulation, that can be mentaly ( thinking positive, optimistic and brave ), always say " It's going to be excelent ", " I am going to solve my problems ", " I will do it just fine ", " I won't worry, everything is going to be fine ", " All bad it's for the purpose of good", such mentality combined whit a good purpose and motivation will change you and you will become more ready for action in the lessons of life, don't forget saying something actualy builds over time ( The world was made by words, God's words ), so thinking badly will result to your way of speaking, which will materialize over time, so think positive always, also have lot's of faith ( please pray a lot, you will need it ), cause without faith nothing can be done. Now let's judge Neptune, meaning without borders, no limitations, the only limitation is actualy the illusionary one, you are blocking yourself, so AGAIN it's about your thinking. Mars square Neptune is a lesson, meaning altering vision and purpose, it shows that the planets aren't the guilty ones, it shows in a predictive way, that your in a very pessimistic period and Square means you need to overcome that, cause it's the time to evolve, Mars bieng brave, Neptune your psychological nature, that all the problems are inner and by behavior. So don't be so hard on yourself, it's nothing that bad, life doesn't suck at all, everything will be fine. :)
unukalhai
01-13-2007, 07:50 PM
You are very much correct in your last statement that it might have something to do with the Neptune-Mars square. This is a generally accepted as an energy-reducing transit. The goal of Neptune-Mars contact is to reduce Mars's selfishness and aggressiveness and open Mars up to a more universal, compassionate method of action. Neptune accomplishes this by draining Mars of his egoistic energy, forcing him to delve into Neptune's waters.
Remember that Neptune's primary principle is dissolution, and in dynamic aspect with Mars, will act to dissolve Mars's overzealous, act first-think later attitude. To Neptune, Mars is a selfish, overly aggressive child. Remember that Neptune's principle involves passivity, compassion, selflessness and wholeness. Mars is quite different, mainly focused on the self and running roughshod over others to achieve what the ego desires, especially in his less developed state. Neptune is pretty frustrated by this, and wants Mars to use his energy for spiritual/universal/compassionate acts rather than servicing the ego. Neptune can't stand to see such a fireball of raw energy like Mars being used for only the self; she wants to see Mars use all that energy to further the whole of the human collective, and certainly at the very least used to help others, especially the downtrodden and less fortunate.
I have Neptune squaring my Mercury (for a while now, and for a while to come) and for me, I've found that using my mind (Mercury) for the purposes I'm used to using it for really don't work. I used to use Mercury mainly for career advancement and learning of basically spiritually useless knowledge, but since the transit came along, most of my Mercuric energy has been devoted to spiritual pursuits, astrology, music and art. All very much Neptunian mental things. Since Mars rules the actions you take, you might consider engaging in selfless acts and taking action for any Neptunian purpose. I find under the Neptune/Mercury square that when I attempt to use my mind for things Neptune isn't so friendly with, I either get a mental blowout or just loose interest... Yet if I engage in Neptunian pursuits, my mind lights up like a Christmas tree hit by a lightning bolt. I could be totally mentally exhausted, yet within minutes of starting to work on some music or pondering the wonders of the cosmos my mind is totally energized... And totally entranced in what I'm doing. It's weird, but in all honesty I hope it doesn't stop when the transit ends. It's pretty **** cool... Although when the transit does die down, I'm going to need to focus on some career **** that I've been avoiding, like certifications and focusing more on work. Bah, so pointless! Stupid money. *delves back in the ocean* :P
What degree does your Mars sit at? If you are going through the Neptune-Mars square, you are probably also going through the Saturn-Mars square, as 2006-2007 features a Saturn/Neptune opposition. The Saturn-Mars square is also a major consideration, and also a possible energy reducer, although not quite as much as Neptune-Mars can drain energy. I would guess the date(s) when the Saturn/Neptune midpoint hit your Mars are going to be quite powerful, as well as the dates of the exact squares from either planet.
The mention of diet is very important, and is only one factor in the overall consideration of SA/NE=MA. In short, this is not a positive transit when it comes to personal health. Under this transit, energy imbalances in the body can manifest physically as health problems, and you are generally more susceptible to infections and sickness. Be careful not to overexert yourself, get plenty of rest and do eat healthy, and be wary of situations which may produce accidents. This doesn't mean you're sure to experience health problems, but do be aware that pushing oneself and/or not taking proper care of the body has a higher cost at this point, just as taking a little extra effort to take care of yourself has a higher reward at this point. You're young, so physically you are probably still quite strong, but you are still human... :)
Your life is what you make it. If you wish for it to suck until you are 27, then it will indeed suck until you are 27. Your chart doesn't determine the quality of your life, but mainly the kinds of experiences you will encounter and when they will occur. It's up to you to make the best of it, and to learn and grow from every experience you have. I've spoken with homeless people who enjoy their life, even though they understand they don't have the best lot. They make the best of it, even revel in their unlucky lot. If you are even lucky enough to be going to school and engaging in artistic activities, you should probably consider yourself lucky. Many people in this world are thankful they could even survive another day, having no idea where their next meal might come from or if they'll be the next victim of a war they have no interest in. Transits are temporary, and even long-holding Neptune transits go away in less than 2 years. Progressions are often so gentle that we never know they happened until they are over.
Repeat after me: "It's all good"... now say it again... and then say "I just haven't learned to see the good in everything yet". Trust me, I'm still learning too. It's not easy for some of us, but the sooner you start looking for the brighter side of things and accepting reality as YOU make it, the sooner you'll be able to say you love being alive and mean it.
Check out this post by VenusInAries, possibly the best text on the Saturn/Neptune opposition I've seen yet!
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=29210#post29210
... Also...
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-aspects/neptune-square-mars.php
.. and
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-aspects/saturn-square-mars.php
kyle8921
01-14-2007, 05:48 AM
You're right, I'm also experiencing a Saturn/Mars Square, but with an orb of 5 degrees. Neptune is at 18 degrees Aquarius and Mars at 18 degrees Taurus. Not good.
But... I work hard at being more positive. But somehow, deep-down inside, I know and feel that all I'm doing is weaving a false reality around me; an illusion of optimism. I guess this is Neptune also. AGH! I wish December would come already... that's when Neptune is too far to be considered squaring my natal Mars.
I guess I need to realize that the stars don't cause.. more are tools for interpretation. It's hard though. I'd rather just accept the fact that I can't change my birth time.
Anyway... I think it may be a big year for me. Though... I might not experience it until much later. This year, progressed Mars and Jupiter enter Gemini, at the same time as progressed Mercury enters Pisces.
At least I don't forsee anything bad, or else I'd be freaking out again... except, pretty soon, transit Mars enters my 12th House, conjuncting my ruling planet Uranus in Capricorn, AND while sextiling my Sun in Pisces!
****, I'm so going to get arrested for something.
Oops, there I go again... freaking out.
Neptune will always lie to you. It's the nature of Neptune to confuse and deflate.... except when it's lying to you in other ways....like when you're being self destructive and Neptune tells you your're not doing anything wrong. It's a powerful energy and it's hard to keep it focused for positive things. It can be very negative and insideous.
My adivce is SET SHORT TERM GOALS. Don't look 10 years ahead. Deal with today and tomorrow, expecially when feeling exhausted. As someone else said, diet and sleep are very important for a Pisces.
Also, I'd see a doctor to make sure you don't have a low grade Virus which isn't always obvious. There are several which sap your energy.... Epstein Barr, Citomegalo, Monuneucleosis, etc. Also have iron levels checked. Also, if you're eating too much sugar and not enough protein you're asking for fatigue problems.
Lin
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