Is my husband the father of my twins?

[eda68]

I am 10weeks pregnant and I am unsure who is the father since I have relations with two men on the conception day (according to the US it was around 10/08).

If my husband is the father, the conception happened after a sexual relation on 10/07 10pm Please help me. My chart:

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/chart.php?y=1975&m=3&d=14&h=4&min=0&lat=22.9&long=43.2&zone=16&e1=1&e2=1 (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/../chart.php?y=1975&m=3&d=14&h=4&min=0&lat=22.9&long=43.2&zone=16&e1=1&e2=1)

His chart:

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/chart.php?y=1976&m=1&d=20&h=2&min=20&lat=22.9&long=43.2&zone=16&e1=1&e2=1 (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/../chart.php?y=1976&m=1&d=20&h=2&min=20&lat=22.9&long=43.2&zone=16&e1=1&e2=1)

[DreamingTheSeas]

Does your family has other twins? Your mom or dad are twins or have siblings who are twins? If the answer is no, then does your husband have twins in his family? If yes you could be quite sure that he is the father of your twins. If no...then i don't know. Try to stay calm and positive because of the embryos.

[eda68]

Neither me nor him are twins or have twins in our families.

Here is the event:

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/chart.php?y=2011&m=10&d=8&h=0&min=0&lat=22.9&long=43.2&zone=16&e1=1&e2=1

[eda68]

chart of the moment of the question:

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/chart.php?y=2011&m=12&d=3&h=23&min=41&lat=22.9&long=43.22&zone=16&e1=1&e2=1http://www.astrologyweekly.com/chart.php?y=2011&m=12&d=3&h=23&min=41&lat=22.88&long=43.22&zone=16&e1=1&e2=1

[divine g]

I am 10weeks pregnant and I am unsure who is the father since I have relations with two men on the conception daySorry, but I have to ask..Does your husband know that you were with another man? Is this an agreed upon relationship, some type of open marriage or an affair that he is/isn't aware of? Bc you say this non-chalantly, which I'm sure others beside myself find a bit disturbing. Care to clarify exactly what's the situation here?

This is the perfect question for the horary section

[waybread]

Have you ever heard of DNA testing?

[eda68]

No, he doesn't know. I cheated on him.

I am bipolar and in order to get pregnant, I withdrawn the medicines. We were trying to conceive, but, I don't know if it was the lack of medicines or whatever, but making love to him seem to me more and more mechanical. He was sweet but I could no longer stand him. Not even his smell. So I cheated him with a co-worker, who could not care less for me.
I find out I was expecting twins and my husband could not be happier, than I exploded. I told him that our life together was unbearable and did not love him anymore (false). He left me, but he still believes he is the father and I believe he wants me back.

But I unsure if he would think so if he knew that the babies could have another father. I am panicking.

I know that there are DNA tests, but they are safer only after delivery, especially since I am expecting twins. No doctor would perform a amniocentesis just for this kind of doubt.

I resorted to this forum becouse I thought astrology could indicate if these children were conceived by the two of us. That's all.

Of course, my condition is no excuse for my behaviour, but please don't judge me, you don't know how much suffering I am going through now. I am completely against abortion, but I don't know if this would be a better solution. I really want to die, but I can't because I am responsible for these two innocent babies who should not suffer from the sins of their mother.

Sorry if this is TMI.

[Vista]

I am 10weeks pregnant and I am unsure who is the father since I have relations with two men on the conception day (according to the US it was on 10/07).

If my husband is the father, the conception happened on 10/07 10pm Please help me. My chart:

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/chart.php?y=1975&m=3&d=14&h=4&min=0&lat=22.9&long=43.2&zone=16&e1=1&e2=1 (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/../chart.php?y=1975&m=3&d=14&h=4&min=0&lat=22.9&long=43.2&zone=16&e1=1&e2=1)

His chart:

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/chart.php?y=1976&m=1&d=20&h=2&min=20&lat=22.9&long=43.2&zone=16&e1=1&e2=1 (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/../chart.php?y=1976&m=1&d=20&h=2&min=20&lat=22.9&long=43.2&zone=16&e1=1&e2=1)


Maybe horary would be the way to go on this which is a birth chart of the exact moment in time of the question. These are bith charts and not supposed to be posted in the horary section.
The other guys chart shows a 4:00 birth time, is this a guess? I am skeptical of the time indicated when it's exactly on the hour or half hour. If so, we don't know where all his planets fall, but I will say his life seems to be having more challenges which would seemingly go along with an unexpected pregnancy with a married woman. Speculation on my part of course. You might have to wait until the baby is born to take a DNA test as Waybread suggested. Also, I would think the baby would favor one guy over the other in terms of resemblance, which would take a little time too to see.

[eda68]

The chart above is my husband's. I don't have the natal data of the other possible father.

The chart of the moment of the question is this one:


http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/../chart.php?y=2011&m=12&d=3&h=23&min=41&lat=22.9&long=43.22&zone=16&e1=1&e2=1http://www.astrologyweekly.com/chart...e=16&e1=1&e2=1 (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/../chart.php?y=2011&m=12&d=3&h=23&min=41&lat=22.88&long=43.22&zone=16&e1=1&e2=1)
[/URL]

If I conceived with my husband it happened after 10 pm 10/07 (conception according to the us was on the 10/08. Of course it could be earlier or after. But no more than 24h from then.

Here is the event (sexual relation):

[URL="http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/../chart.php?y=2011&m=10&d=8&h=0&min=0&lat=22.9&long=43.2&zone=16&e1=1&e2=1"]http://www.astrologyweekly.com/chart...e=16&e1=1&e2=1 (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/posthistory.php?p=338013)

[eda68]

4AM is my birth time on international hour and it is correct according to my mother and my birth certificate. My husbands is 2h20 AM. I don't have the data for the other possible father.

[divine g]

Eda68, thank you for explaining, and I feel for your situation.

Now, dont take this as 100% law, but it does look like your husband is the father. That's the Sun in the 5th house of children. Mercury there also shows the twins. Saturn on the IC shows again your husband is the father, and will probably be there for the long run, and help bring stability to whatever emotional issues you may have.

Your co-worker would be Mars in the 2nd house, house of possessions, money and self-esteem. Whatever relations you had don't seem to have produced any babies. It was purely physical, and may have helped your self-esteem in some way.

That's just my first instinct from a quick look. If anyone sees something different, feel free to add on. Quick question, will you keep taking meds during the pregnancy?

[eda68]

I should not take the medicines, especially during the first trimester. They could harm the babies.

[eda68]

Any insights will be welcome. Please help.

[waybread]

Eda, I don't do horary astrology (just the natal kind) but your post caught my eye.

So this is just some advice, of the sort you might get from an older friend or relative, sitting around her kitchen table.

You have shared that you are bi-polar and have stopped taking your medication to avoid harming your babies. This says really good things about you, but have you consulted with your doctor about your going off your medication? Whatever types of behaviours led to your diagnosis and course of treatment, you can expect that they will return prior to your delivery date-- and then after if you breast-feed, as medications also pass through the mother's milk. You need to work closely with your family doctor or obstetrician if you are not doing so already.

If you do not have an obstetrician, you need to get one right away. A doctor at a walk-in clinic could give you a referral.

If you can unemotionally look at your behaviour on and just after your conception date, do you truly, in your heart-of-hearts-- feel emotionally ready to be a mother?

Taking care of one newborn baby demands a lot of work and a lot of sleepless nights. Taking care of two babies doubles the work and sleeplessness. If you have to do this as a single mother, have you thought through how you will handle everything?

As you are bi-polar and off your medication, can you imagine what the actual post-natal period will be like for you? Will you be physically able to care for two newborn babies as a single mother? How will you support yourself? Would your job provide maternity leave income and health care?

Have you got a mother or sister with whom you could live who will help you with the child-care?

It doesn't sound as though you want to get back together with your husband, but either biologically or legally, so long as you stay married and unless DNA tests prove otherwise, these are his children, as well.

Many doctors perform amniocentesis routinely, especially with older mothers, merely to determine whether new-borns have any genetic birth defects. Your doctor will have heard stories far more difficult then yours, and will not be shocked by what you tell him or her, unless possibly the doctor is very young. You need to confide in this person. Also in your husband, if you pursue this route, as they would need a sample of his DNA, as well.

Would you consider giving up your babies for adoption? There should be adoption services near where you live who can counsel you.

[eda68]

Thank you for your concern, Waybread

I am not alone, since my husband left me I am living with my mother, who knows about my condition (of course, she doesn't the whole story). I have a good background, I have a work and I don't think I will have financial issues regarding the babies. The doubt is what kills me. I would do the amniocentesis if the doctor advises so for other reasons. I will have another ultrassound on the end of the year exactly because i am not a young mother and in order to see if there is any risk of genetical problem with the babies (I don't remember the name of this special us). Only if there indications of problems and the other exam is necessary that he will proceed with it. It is a twin pregnancy and the amniocentesis is a risky procedure even in singletons. I would only open the question to him, if the procedure was really necessary for medical reasons, not only because of my indiscretion. I was withdrawn from the medicines by the doctor and continued only in therapy. But the results were no good, as you can see. I have a condition but I am not insane. I love these babies and as soon as possible I will return to the mood stabilizers and I will try to be the best mother they could have. Even if I have no partner.

I suffer for my husband. I would like to have any tiny hope that these children are his. I would not like to live in a lie and tremble every time someone says that the kids don't resemble their father. On the other hand, I know that my ex would never return to me if I told him the doubt I am, even if the children are his. He would be a good father but I am sure he would never forgive me. I was thinking in testing his dna from the hair he left on a comb he left home and the babies as soon as they born and only if he was really the father, I would try to come back. I am a little confused but I am not a liar.

I am not perfect but I am sure I will be a good mother, I don't have nothing against adoption, but I really wanted these children and in my age they are going to be the only children I will have.

If someone could read the horary chart I would be very grateful.

Do you see, Waybread, anything related to these issue in my natal chart posted above? And in my husbands?

Thank you

[claudette]

Eda,

I hope your situation is settling down some; just noticed this post today.

Did you know of a homeopathic form of Lithium? It is Gammadyn Li, (lithium gluconate) made by Seroyal for UNDA, in ampoule form. In the US it can be bought on line without a prescription. It may be safe for you to take; a homeopathic physician would be able to advise you. If not that, he/she could probably suggest a remedy that could help your emotional and mental balance without harming your twins.

Best of luck to you.

[Aquarius358]

Hi - I'm a horary astrologer - could you give me the location for the question, please? Can't get it from the link! I've got the date 3 Dec 2011, 23:41, and Asc at 13Can08 and MC at 26Ar24. Is that right?

Could you give the same for the event chart too, please? Thanks. ___

[serafin5]

Eda, I don't do horary astrology (just the natal kind) but your post caught my eye.

So this is just some advice, of the sort you might get from an older friend or relative, sitting around her kitchen table.

You have shared that you are bi-polar and have stopped taking your medication to avoid harming your babies. This says really good things about you, but have you consulted with your doctor about your going off your medication? Whatever types of behaviours led to your diagnosis and course of treatment, you can expect that they will return prior to your delivery date-- and then after if you breast-feed, as medications also pass through the mother's milk. You need to work closely with your family doctor or obstetrician if you are not doing so already.

If you do not have an obstetrician, you need to get one right away. A doctor at a walk-in clinic could give you a referral.

If you can unemotionally look at your behaviour on and just after your conception date, do you truly, in your heart-of-hearts-- feel emotionally ready to be a mother?

Taking care of one newborn baby demands a lot of work and a lot of sleepless nights. Taking care of two babies doubles the work and sleeplessness. If you have to do this as a single mother, have you thought through how you will handle everything?

As you are bi-polar and off your medication, can you imagine what the actual post-natal period will be like for you? Will you be physically able to care for two newborn babies as a single mother? How will you support yourself? Would your job provide maternity leave income and health care?

Have you got a mother or sister with whom you could live who will help you with the child-care?

It doesn't sound as though you want to get back together with your husband, but either biologically or legally, so long as you stay married and unless DNA tests prove otherwise, these are his children, as well.

Many doctors perform amniocentesis routinely, especially with older mothers, merely to determine whether new-borns have any genetic birth defects. Your doctor will have heard stories far more difficult then yours, and will not be shocked by what you tell him or her, unless possibly the doctor is very young. You need to confide in this person. Also in your husband, if you pursue this route, as they would need a sample of his DNA, as well.

Would you consider giving up your babies for adoption? There should be adoption services near where you live who can counsel you.

Hi Waybread: You took all the questions I had out of my fingers; what a mess. And please don't think Eda I am judging either, just concerned. I know a little about the bi-polar condition and my heart really goes out to you. My concern is that going off your meds during pregnancy and possibly after if you breast feed may bring back all those horrible effects of your bi-polar condition thus possibly putting yourself and babies at risk for other things (?). I know that the meds are no good for the babies but maybe if you speak with a doctor right away maybe he/she will have some alternatives for you. Also, if possible, since you wont be able to find out the babies true paternity until after their birth, it will probably be a good idea if you could get into counseling, that way the stress of this situation may be minimized.

I wish you well and I will prey too.

God Bless
Serafin5