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MantisReligiosa
07-08-2011, 07:18 PM
All of the rising signs are beautiful. However, it's generally a mix on what determines your looks.

I challenge you all: Anyone want to guess what I look like? Let's see how well your knowledge of astrology affects appearance.


Rising Sign is in 29 Degrees Aries

Sun is in 20 Degrees Leo.

Moon is in 10 Degrees Sagittarius.

Mercury is in 15 Degrees Virgo.

Venus is in 24 Degrees Virgo.

Mars is in 29 Degrees Libra.

Jupiter is in 16 Degrees Aquarius.

Saturn is in 20 Degrees Aries.

Uranus is in 06 Degrees Aquarius.

Neptune is in 27 Degrees Capricorn.

Pluto is in 02 Degrees Sagittarius.

N. Node is in 20 Degrees Virgo.

You must look like Aries Rising Mario Lanza:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJZ2XA84MPI

Saturnian
07-08-2011, 07:38 PM
Saturnian,

Yes, Marion is beautiful. So is Emma Watson. I always felt strongly that Emma must be a Virgo Rising, even before astrotheme revealed her birth time, and it was "unknown" what her AC was.
I was so proud of myself when I realized I was right..lol.

But it's obvious..she is very classy and stylish, but at the same time, modest and a bit no-nonsense. It must be a nice touch to her Fire Sun and Moon combination, stabilizing and adding objectivity and modesty.

Plus she cut her hair recently..so Virgo. I have actually thought of doing that several times but am afraid I'll get bored too fast.
I think Virgo Risings of all women care the least about being "sexy".
In fact, they may try to avoid being sexy as much as possible.

They absolutely very rarely put their sexuality on a trey like other women, or even when they do, it's a bit innocent and awkward, like little girls trying mommie's shoes on. Kind of like Brooke Shields' expression in the above photo.
I also think that no matter how openly sexual they may act, they never come across as vulgar or cheap. Think Sharon Stone in "Basic Instinct". Sexual, but cool, calm, refined, and intelectually perverse. There is simply very little "animal instinct" at work in Virgo personality. They keep the animal well caged.:innocent:
I guess that makes us occasional targets for pervs with Lolita fantasies.

I actually think Natalie Portman is very Virgo, and her movie Black Swan is soooo Virgo. I absolutely loved it, from beginning till end and totally understood her character. It was frightening how well I could understand that character's sensitivity, fears, anxiety, strong desire to achieve perfection and control. Repression is definitely Virgo's territory.

Although having Virgo just on the AC I do not feel these drives as strongly as Portman probably does, with her Virgo Moon. Like I said, that role was perfect for her. Gemini Sun, Virgo Moon, Scorpio Asc. Definitely a White Swan/Black Swan situation. lol.

About me being innocent..I was told by both genders, I guess. But it was rarely in a flattering sense.
Let's face it, innocence is almost despised in today's society. People who act innocent or even look innocent, can easily be mistaken for stupid and naive and just boring.
here are some pics of me:

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Only head shots, cause my body is fat..nothing interesting. I was told I am prettier from a profile view, which is something I agree with. lol. That last pic is the only pic of me I like.
Overall, though, I think I look pretty boring. And BORED, because I usually am.

Anyway, I hope you are right about looking younger for a long time because I am 22 now and still haven't figured out exactly what I want from life, so I need more time to figure it out and hopefully still look healthy enough to have some fun.:joyful:

I would say, overall, that's true. Virgo Risers, as well as Gemini Risers, to some extent, look younger than their age.
I know this woman who is Virgo Asc, Leo Sun, Aqu Moon, and she is 55 and looks no older than 40. She is tiny and slim and dimpled, with a full mane of blonde hair.
Plus, think of some of the Virgo ACs we've mentioned in this forum..lots of them are good-looking well into a ripe age. My fave must be Bruce Willis..immortal charm. lol
To me you look like a very down to earth person,someone reliable and serious but who doesn't take bullsh*t from people.
You don't look all that innocent to me in the sense of naive and such.You look like a person who is realistic,perhaps...
A friend of mine I would say looks naive and innocent.She has big brown eyes and a bit of a baby face,so that innocence shows in her face.She is a Sagittarius Sun and Cancer Moon with Aquarius Rising.
To me you don't look like someone who can be tricked easily,that of course is how I see it.
I really like the picture where you have lipstick on,it really suits you.I don't think your face is ugly,it is pretty okay.If anything I could recommend was to look after your skin.And I think you'll be pretty fine.No need to over-do things like with make up and stuff like that.I prefer simplicity and freshness.Like I said try to be good to your skin if you can,like with skin products.You have nice features I believe and yes you do have a sweetness when you smile(which is not a bad thing).I also like your profile a lot.
That is my honest opinion and I think it's best to keep it simple than cover your face with tons of make-up and things like that.I jus don't support extreme.I also think that if you showed a bit of interest in caring for your appearance you do would feel better because you know...by doing so you show some love to yourself and that's healthy.

MantisReligiosa
07-08-2011, 10:08 PM
To me you look like a very down to earth person,someone reliable and serious but who doesn't take bullsh*t from people.
You don't look all that innocent to me in the sense of naive and such.You look like a person who is realistic,perhaps...
A friend of mine I would say looks naive and innocent.She has big brown eyes and a bit of a baby face,so that innocence shows in her face.She is a Sagittarius Sun and Cancer Moon with Aquarius Rising.
To me you don't look like someone who can be tricked easily,that of course is how I see it.
I really like the picture where you have lipstick on,it really suits you.I don't think your face is ugly,it is pretty okay.If anything I could recommend was to look after your skin.And I think you'll be pretty fine.No need to over-do things like with make up and stuff like that.I prefer simplicity and freshness.Like I said try to be good to your skin if you can,like with skin products.You have nice features I believe and yes you do have a sweetness when you smile(which is not a bad thing).I also like your profile a lot.
That is my honest opinion and I think it's best to keep it simple than cover your face with tons of make-up and things like that.I jus don't support extreme.I also think that if you showed a bit of interest in caring for your appearance you do would feel better because you know...by doing so you show some love to yourself and that's healthy.

Yes, I have issues with my skin..I started self-harming when I was 13 or 14. It's not acne, I rip little pieces of skin with my nails, sratcth myself trying to take out white heads or black heads. It gets especially bad when I am under lots of stress, or emotional pain(I was told I might have Borderline personality)
I kept trying to quit doing it over the years, but I cannot keep my hands off my skin for more than a few days, tops. :pinched:
My back is covered in scars. My face has a lot of scars too. I keep making promises to stop starting..tomorrow, say. lol

But, anyway, these pics are all about 2 or 3 years old. I think I look a tiny bit more mature now, and I have dyed my hair red, which I really like on me.
Lots of people have told me it looks good on me. Here's a pic:
http://people.tribe.net/487fd771-d1a6-4132-b909-966191b9e505/photos/8b17d96e-acde-4252-9113-5425d6ca603f

Anyway, I have always been told I look serious and pragmatic, which is very annoying to me. I have always been dreamy and romantic. I only started to be more Virgo towards the end of my teens, because I felt my appearance prevented me from being accepted for who I was.
I actually read this article on astrology not too long ago, about missing elements, and the author pointed out that if your AC is in an element which appears very little or not at all in the rest of your planets, you will often be frustrated and unhappy, because people respond to your AC, instead of the "real you".
In my chart, I only have Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune in Capricorn as Earth.
The rest of my chart is Water and Air.(Sun, Mercury, Venus, North Node in Pisces, Pluto in Scorpio, Moon, Mars, Jupiter in Gemini)

Being seen as a Virgo can be incredibly frustrating at times.:alien:

SimeonAlojipan
07-13-2011, 09:12 PM
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melosine
07-13-2011, 10:42 PM
I am a Capricorn Rising and it's strange to hear people say that we age better. I must be a rare case because I believe I am aging faster! I am not aging well at all. I was much better looking when I was younger. I think it depends on the aspects especially if you are a Double Earth sign. Maybe if you are a Air-earth combination, you would look like a model, but if you are a double earth........you might not look too good physically. I am just being honest.

I agree that Scorpio, Libra Sun and rising people are good looking. I don't know much about rising signs but these three personally.

Andylop
07-14-2011, 03:57 AM
Pisces ascendant with neptune in 8th house :D :D
but then i'm biased

My mother is Pisces ASC with Neptune in the 8th lol. oh she's married, sorry

virgo18
07-14-2011, 05:18 PM
This are the Ones I like for Sagittarius Rising"

Adriana Lima
Winona Ryder
Rachel Welch
Angelina Jolie
Nelly Furtado
Jennifer Connelly
Anne Hathaway
Mila Kunis
Tyra Banks
Aishwarya Rai
Elizabeth Taylor

virgo18
07-14-2011, 05:30 PM
[QUOTE=Saturnian;297196]I think guys are attracted to sweetness and cuteness...they find it feminine perhaps?I don't know of course who gave you these compliments.Was it guys or girls?


They are beautiful, Virgo rising gives big big big foreheads and sharped chin...

You missed Christina Ricci she's also Virgo rising with big forehead and sharped chin

Horus
07-14-2011, 07:05 PM
This are the Ones I like for Sagittarius Rising"


Winona Ryder


oooo I've always had a thing for Winona! And she has Sun, Merc, and Venus in Scorpio too! :love:

Cameron Diaz (with whom I worked on set last month) has Sag. Rising too and she's a sweetheart.

http://cdn.mojocincy.com/files/2011/06/cameron-diaz-2011-1.jpg

AquariusInk
07-16-2011, 07:54 PM
Aquarius sun, Pices rising.

treasure
07-16-2011, 10:40 PM
Scorpio.....because it isn't just the look....it's that energy that ***** me an and I get lost in it.....thank you God for scorpio men :devil:

Claire19
07-17-2011, 04:02 AM
I thought It would interesting to discuss what rising sign you find the most Attractive

Physically and Mentally
Hey! Pisces of course especially with the ruler Neptune in Libra and conjunct Venus.

:smile:

Claire19
07-17-2011, 04:02 AM
Aquarius sun, Pices rising.
I can see that.:smile:

Claire19
07-17-2011, 04:04 AM
[QUOTE=Saturnian;297196]I think guys are attracted to sweetness and cuteness...they find it feminine perhaps?I don't know of course who gave you these compliments.Was it guys or girls?


They are beautiful, Virgo rising gives big big big foreheads and sharped chin...

You missed Christina Ricci she's also Virgo rising with big forehead and sharped chin
I have a prominent forehead but Virgo doesnt figure in my chart..
I do agree that the sharp chin can be characteristic...

hermetic
08-09-2011, 06:54 PM
Have been reading this thread a little bit...

I agree with Virgo rising people to be looking younger, also something very delicate and clean looking in appearance that makes them look attractive, at least to me.

MantisReligiosa, in those pics of yours you look a lot like my best friend who is also Virgo rising :)

although we can agree on some general characteristics of certain signs rising, there is an extent to which aspects to asc and 1st house planets modify this 'expected' look.

To me, some images of beauty are:

Catherine Denevue, very pretty in her youth and older age
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfldskk93v1qbkyoao1_500.jpg
http://soniabdesigns.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/deneuvefloralgarnetbuttons.jpg

Astrologically speaking, she is Libra Sun with Venus in Virgo(just like myself, my mom often says I look like her) and her ascendant being in Capricorn, trined by Leo Moon - the hair being one of her trademarks.

Another beauty, for me is Charlotte Rampling
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YU5mPEjPHcQ/TUx3QRkfjVI/AAAAAAAAHgU/8BE7o3p9EPs/s1600/Charlotte+Rampling+and+Woody+Allen+Stardust+Memori es.jpg
http://thevacavillehousewife.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/charlotte_rampling.jpg

Again, beautiful in young ald old age, very striking eyes, she is an Aquarius Sun and ASC, with Mercury, Sun and Venus in 1st house Aqua. Venus combust by Sun, less than 1 degree conjunction. Pluto opposite ascendant and Neptune and Uranus trining it, all forming a grand trine - I believe this gives her persona so many layers, and her expression is so multifaceted and complex - perfect for an actress. Whoever saw any of her films knows what I'm talking about. Her beauty seems 'deep' somehow. And she is well known for being proud of her wrinkles and age, and being against all procedures to prolong beauty, believing she is beautiful as she is. She has that true Aquarian nature colored by the influence of outer planets.

And another, younger beauty is Eva Green
http://images.wikia.com/camelot/images/b/ba/Tumblr_l5xjo9GCsW1qcjj3do1_400-1-.jpg
She is Cancer Sun, with supposedly Leo asc(conj Regulus!) and Venus in 10th house Gemini. She has something very Scorpio-like to her appearance, I give credit for that to her Pluto trine Venus

and another, Milla Jovovich
http://www.eanext.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/fa398_millajovovich2.jpg

Sag Sun, Cancer Asc, typical cancer asc features - soft looking, shiny skin, Uranus trining ascendant from the 5th house. Mercury opposes asc from the 7th and Moon is in the 12th house Gemini.

Ruka_5
08-09-2011, 07:29 PM
I've seen so many people with the same ascendant signs who look completely different from one another, so I don't buy that people with a certain ascendant all have certain specific physical traits. I've also seen people from lots of different ascendants who are ugly, and some who are attractive, so I don't feel like I can comment on that either.

But in terms of personal energy, I find Scorpio ascendants the most attractive by far. Actually it'd probably be more accurate to extend that to anyone with Scorpio or Pluto prominent in their chart in some way, whether a luminary in the sign or Pluto conjunct a luminary, inner planet or an angle. I'm just really attracted to that energy, in general.

hypnotiqu3
08-14-2011, 10:46 PM
GEMINI ASC!

lol

Okayokayokay....I figured I'd throw that in there because we are natural shape shifters. So we can be anything at any time.

Am I correct?

nemesis
08-17-2011, 03:16 AM
Since almost everyone seems to always leaves poor Taurus Asc out in the cold. I am going to prove to some people that Taurus can be beautiful and handsome.
We're not all frumpy, dumpy, lumpy, square bodied bulls.
People always talk about Libra but not Taurus, Taurus rules Venus as well. I really do not think Venus would only give her gifts to Libra and nothing to Taurus in the looks dept.
Taurus just gives it a more earthy, sultry, sensual look.
Notice the big bright eyes, pouty lips, lovely skin/hair and many of the women seem to have a more oval face (like myself).
I think (in the women especially) they have a very mischievous look to them.
Being a Taurus Asc I just wanna stick up for my fellow Ascs out there :p

David Beckham & Brendan Fraser
http://rajiv0000.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/995971david-beckham-posters1.jpg http://lh6.ggpht.com/ickyg72/SH4dWTa-2mI/AAAAAAAACbE/gjjRSANdeT4/Brendan_narrowweb__300x381,0.jpg

Zinedine Zidane & Peter O'Toole
http://im.in.com/connect/images/profile/b_profile5/Zinedine_Zidane_300.jpg http://trueclassics.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/peter-otoole.jpg

Robert Kennedy & Crispin Glover
http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/ae/kennedy-53-bobby-kennedy-0110-lg.jpg http://jerzygirl45.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/crispin-glover-61.jpg

Josh Brolin & James Denton
http://images.nymag.com/daily/entertainment/20090115_brolin_250x375.jpg http://news.superiorpics.com/pic/james%20denton.jpg

Dakota Fanning & Eliza Dushku
http://www.palzoo.net/file/pic/user/Dakota-Fanning.jpg http://cache2.allpostersimages.com/p/LRG/10/1062/CWUL000Z/posters/eliza-dushku.jpg

Rita Hayworth & Vivien Leigh
http://cache2.allpostersimages.com/p/LRG/37/3706/WWCAF00Z/posters/gilda-rita-hayworth-1946.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-20oDKYcXVtc/TZTWqli_F8I/AAAAAAAABX4/qsXGcTTg4_A/s400/Vivien%2BLeigh.jpg

Elle Macpherson & Liza Minelli
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ia_sJknl8wo/Ti8DAsVIC1I/AAAAAAAAKic/SMOH8dP879Y/s1600/elle+2.jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XeWEPV5kBvQ/S9LX6pf33RI/AAAAAAAAFrE/ymlpRXjutdE/s640/Liza+Minnelli+beautiful+young+candid+photo.bmp

Mia Farrow & Sheryl Crow
http://image.qpicture.com/image/m/artist-mia-farrow/mia-farrow-146542.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_K5ls3SJu5Qo/Si8ClQxgXjI/AAAAAAAAA_A/GCoBLhvjjZk/s400/sheryl_crow.jpg

Rachel Miner & Natasha Gregson Wagner
http://famousmonstersoffilmland.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/rachel-miner.png http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NqSPS-4a6Y0/TSByvm_0tNI/AAAAAAAAIfI/lXhFBszO9mU/s400/Natasha%2BGregson%2BWagner-2.jpg

Among many others

MSO
08-17-2011, 11:24 PM
Leo risers are the sexiest people.

Source: Myself.

virgo18
08-18-2011, 12:07 AM
Thinking about who is most beautiful women in the world, to me name is Aishwarya Rai. The cbsnews has an article about it. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/12/29/60minutes/main663862.shtml

She won Miss World title in 1994.

The chart I have for her has:

Group 1
~ Libra Rising
~ ASC conjunct Pluto, sextile Neptune and trine Jupiter
~ ASC lord Venus conjunct North Node
Group 2
~ Sun Sign: Scorpio
~ Mars on cusp of 8th

In this case, question is related to rising sign and answer is Libra, but rising sign is just a contributing factor. Here, Group 1 is responsible for beauty and Group 2 is responsible for being noticed.

Wallpaper: http://marablogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/aishwarya_rai_wallpaper_12.jpg
http://marablogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/aishwarya_rai_wallpaper_12.jpg



Dear Dhundhun
Aishwarya Rai is one of the women I consider the prettiest... is Sagittarius risign for what I know.

check it here: http://www.librarising.com/astrology/risingsigns/sagittariusrising2.html

nemesis
08-18-2011, 12:28 AM
check it here: http://www.librarising.com/astrology...usrising2.html (http://www.librarising.com/astrology/risingsigns/sagittariusrising2.html)

I don't like that website it seems kind of bias =/ the people they choose for certain rising signs is kinda... well they didn't choose the best examples.

I mean look at the examples for Sag then look at the examples for Taurus XD so few examples.
I mean I think I gave better examples then that site did for Taurus.

Saturnian
08-18-2011, 10:44 PM
I don't like that website it seems kind of bias =/ the people they choose for certain rising signs is kinda... well they didn't choose the best examples.

I mean look at the examples for Sag then look at the examples for Taurus XD so few examples.
I mean I think I gave better examples then that site did for Taurus.
That site isn't very realible it has certain ascendants or moon signs wrong.
And when they lack the time,the assume certain rising...the so-called good-looking risings for good-looking people and the same goes for the not so good looking people.They associate good looks with masculine risings,so yeah it is very discriminating.

nemesis
08-18-2011, 11:25 PM
That site isn't very realible it has certain ascendants or moon signs wrong.
And when they lack the time,the assume certain rising...the so-called good-looking risings for good-looking people and the same goes for the not so good looking people.They associate good looks with masculine risings,so yeah it is very discriminating.

You know I never really checked to see how many were correct on that site and I've found a handful alone in a few minutes!
So it's bias and not fully accurate either :mad:
And yes they obviously favour the masculine over the feminine.

Aishwarya Rai is one of the women I consider the prettiest... is Sagittarius risign for what I know.

I checked astrotheme.com (I trust them a lot more) she is a Libra Asc btw that other site has it wrong.
Has the wrong picture for Bettie Page on there and she's Pisces Asc not Sag Asc :pinched: among a few others I've already spotted in the wrong category in the Sag Asc page alone!

***No one should trust librarising.com it is terrible I keep on finding mistakes in it.

Jesusistheway
08-19-2011, 01:13 AM
after a revisit from a talk with a friend whose really good at guessing rising signs I think virgo rising for females is great and aquarius for males. virgos=feminine and aquarius=rebellious masculine (which is in)

nemesis
08-19-2011, 09:56 AM
I know this thread is a debate over which Rising Sign has the most attractive people under it's belt but...
I cannot see how that can be proven when we all have such different likes and dislikes when it comes to physical beauty.

I suppose this thread could be more or less on what we think personally.

And I know it's all in fun but... I cannot help saying that.

btw
Cameron Diaz (with whom I worked on set last month) has Sag. Rising too and she's a sweetheart.

^Cameron has Cancer Asc not Sag.

nemesis
08-19-2011, 10:10 AM
I am almost convinced that somebody ******* up Leigh's Ascendant. I bet she is a Gemini Rising with Saturn conjunct her AC.
Ther is no way a Taurus Rising can be so frail-looking.
I think Gemini Rising with Saturn conjunct AC and Venus trine AC makes a lot more sense. It also makes sense when you think she died of tuberculosis(Gemini rules lungs, and she's got Saturn there, too)

She was naturally very thin and a bit severe/sharp-looking, as well. Saturn on the AC emphasizes bone structure, and always gives a tendency towards a big nose, thin lips, and overall elongated face.
Other than that, her appearance is purely Gemini. Check out other Gemini Risings and you will see what I mean.
They all tend to have a face widest at the cheekbones, and an almost egg-shaped face and head. And the prettiest part of their face is always the eyes.
Ann Margaret, Gene Tierney, Michelle Pfeiffer, Tino Rossi are all Gemini Risings.
Tino Rossi even has the raised eyebrow and similar smile to Mz. Leigh

check him out: http://www.last.fm/music/Tino+Rossi/+images/35368179

Also had blue eyes.


sorry but I have to argue with this (again another Taurus Asc bias lol)

I have Taurus Rising also Venus in Libra and I am 5'1", 110 lbs and I am petite (like Vivien) I don't have broad shoulders or a bulkiness to me at all...
Taurus Asc CAN be petite and "frail looking" and very feminine. I'm naturally thin and I also have an oval/egg shaped head.
And eventhough I am short in pictures people usually think I am taller, I have long legs too.

And on the last page I posted some people who I am sure no one considered to be Taurus Asc.

Saturnian
08-19-2011, 12:32 PM
I do think Taurus risings are more feminine than Gemini rising gals.Although Gemini rising gals can come out pretty good looking.But they have that friendly aura about them.
Taurus is just feminine,ohh yeah.It's a Venus rising and and Taurus adds sensuality.

nemesis
08-19-2011, 08:01 PM
I do think Taurus risings are more feminine than Gemini rising gals.Although Gemini rising gals can come out pretty good looking.But they have that friendly aura about them.
Taurus is just feminine,ohh yeah.It's a Venus rising and and Taurus adds sensuality.

Totally agree :) and I am not just saying that as one. Gemini Rising is of course attractive too like Sandra Bullock or Ashton Kutcher. They do seem more friendly yes and more approachable I think.
Yes definitely Taurus being ruled by Venus and an earth sign I think brings much feminity and sensuality to the Asc.

I personally find Earth & Water Rising signs on females to be more attractive (besides Libra of course the other Venus ruler which I cannot leave out). Both being feminine elements it seems perfectly natural to me that females with these Asc would be as such.

The males in these elements can be pretty darn smexy themselves though.

Earth & Water give off a very sharp mysterious look to both men and women.

imo

MissDreamer
08-21-2011, 05:05 PM
I think they're all beautiful. ;)

Rebel Uranian
09-03-2011, 10:42 PM
Aquarius rising. But I can't say that, can I. :whistling:

Horus
09-03-2011, 11:05 PM
btw

^Cameron has Cancer Asc not Sag.

That depends on which source has the correct birthtime:

http://www.vegaattractions.com/fun/celebrity/indiv/camerondiaz.html

After observing her behavior with others off camera, and on Letterman recently, she seems more fiery and outgoing to me, not Cancerish at all.

nemesis
09-03-2011, 11:15 PM
That depends on which source has the correct birthtime:

http://www.vegaattractions.com/fun/celebrity/indiv/camerondiaz.html

After observing her behavior with others off camera, and on Letterman recently, she seems more fiery and outgoing to me, not Cancerish at all.

I go by astrotheme and astro.com which both say Cancer Asc but I'm not gonna argue or anything just sayin what I usually go by. Who knows really and she does have Mercury in Leo *shrug*

I think they're all beautiful.

As I've said before each Asc has beautiful people ^.^ I was just saying what signs I personally find most attractive on the Asc.

Horus
09-03-2011, 11:23 PM
She does have Mercury in Leo but who knows.

I just do not like going by that librarising site it's always wrong.

Interesting that other sites have her as Sag or Cancer too very odd.

All databases are subject to errors -even astrotheme's, which I've caught before. Mercury is the style of thinking not the way she projects personality. There's an interview out there somewhere which would settle the matter but some which I've run across would seem to confirm the typical Sag. ASC impression:

n person, Cameron Diaz is every bit as bubbly and energetic as she seems onscreen. She exudes a fun, confident energy and her ear-to-ear grin is contagious. Not what you'd expect the higest paid actress in Hollywood to be, she is friendly and approachable rather than distant and glamorous.
http://www.hilary.com/celebrity/cameron-diaz.html


Yep, like me! :biggrin: Hail Jupiter!

nemesis
09-03-2011, 11:30 PM
Lol again I wasn't trying to argue and I believe what you say but there could be other factors at work concerning her personality whether she has Sag Asc or not but cool thanks for the link.

I edited my post too to explain a bit more I tend to post then edit it all the time lol.

Horus
09-03-2011, 11:42 PM
No worries, Nemesis! Somebody somewhere made an error between p.m. and a.m. I was going to offer a friendly wager of say $20 that she's Sag. if either one of us ever locates proof from the horse's (or Cameron's) mouth.

Yes, to some degree, all of the other planets blend to affect our personality but the ascendant is the outer persona, and includes the social mask. I knew someone with a Sag. Sun -great sense of humor too, but her Cap. Rising was generally cold and stern with others. I have Mercury in Scorpio opp Saturn -a serious detective mentality, but that doesn't stop me from blowing bubbles of delight in my chocolate milk! :happy:

nemesis
09-03-2011, 11:57 PM
No worries, Nemesis! Somebody somewhere made an error between p.m. and a.m. I was going to offer a friendly wager of say $20 that she's Sag. if either one of us ever locates proof from the horse's (or Cameron's) mouth.

Yes, to some degree, all of the other planets blend to affect our personality but the ascendant is the outer persona, and includes the social mask. I knew someone with a Sag. Sun -great sense of humor too, but her Cap. Rising was generally cold and stern with others. I have Mercury in Scorpio opp Saturn -a serious detective mentality, but that doesn't stop me from blowing bubbles of delight in my chocolate milk! :happy:

Lol oh okay and sure we can bet on it anyways I like a fun wager now n' then.

Haha fair enough *nods* although I find most Caps pretty cool they're never cold or stern with me anyways. Or maybe I just see through that *unsure*...
but hey I like doing that w/my milk too although I'm a Taurus Asc :p perhaps it's just the Leo in me.

Horus
09-04-2011, 12:24 AM
Lol oh okay and sure we can bet on it anyways I like a fun wager now n' then.

OK, I'll invoice you from Paypal!

Haha fair enough *nods* although I find most Caps pretty cool they're never cold or stern with me anyways. Or maybe I just see through that *unsure*...

Cap. Rising makes a lovely trine with Taurus Rising, by sign if not by aspect.

but hey I like doing that w/my milk too although I'm a Taurus Asc :p perhaps it's just the Leo in me.

Well my Sag. Moon just adores that! :love::lol:

nemesis
09-06-2011, 02:41 AM
OK, I'll invoice you from Paypal!

haha sweet :cool: thanks


Cap. Rising makes a lovely trine with Taurus Rising, by sign if not by aspect.

Oh does it? Well that makes a lot of sense :joyful: they are both earth signs afterall. I just assumed it was my Saturn conj my Sun but I did not think of Taurus as well.


Well my Sag. Moon just adores that! :love::lol:

lol :p oh sag such silly ones.

MSO
09-07-2011, 04:29 AM
Leo rising, how is this even a debate?

Haley585
09-08-2011, 11:54 PM
Libra is the attractive one...However, Scorpio is more sexy and magnetizing!:wink:

xxcandyflprxx
09-28-2011, 04:19 AM
I'm a libra rising and I dont think im "attractive"

blueskye
09-28-2011, 05:12 AM
I always go for cap rising. I think it's because my moon is in capricorn. I have scorpio rising and people with moon in scorpio love the way I look. I think whatever your moon sign is, you will be drawn to the ascendent in the same sign.

Claire19
09-28-2011, 05:12 AM
It does depend on what your chart ruler, Venus is doing... THat modifies appearance.... It is not so cut and dried....Venus is conjunct my chart ruler in Libra and I do have the dark hair and blue eyes that is often the combination and I have regular features.....

Claire19
09-28-2011, 05:14 AM
I always go for cap rising. I think it's because my moon is in capricorn. I have scorpio rising and people with moon in scorpio love the way I look. I think whatever your moon sign is, you will be drawn to the ascendent in the same sign.
I think that what your say is right often. The moon sign that a man has for instance, goes a long way to the type of woman he is attracted to so if you that as rising sign which rules appearance and persona, then there is often a connection....As far as attraction goes Venus and Mars play a strong part.

Claire19
09-28-2011, 05:16 AM
Libra is the attractive one...However, Scorpio is more sexy and magnetizing!:wink:
Generalising. Astrology is not that simple. thank God... I would be bored by now if it was..... I have known several Libran men for instance who were not very attractive although they had a certain refinement and intelligence.... As my love planets are both in Libra that is the type of man I prefer but the rising sign designates the looks and personality largely and that can be offputting..

sethi
09-28-2011, 09:49 AM
ascendant does not actually tell you about looks.

It is only the aspects and trines. I have seen bad looking people in nearly all ascendants

Neptune Rising
09-28-2011, 02:47 PM
I cannot help but become transfixed when I see Pluto rising, or Scorpio rising :wink: They are so stunning and striking.

This is one of my favourites, in uk soapland, he just oozes Pluto. Plus I think he is also Leo rising.

Claire19
09-28-2011, 11:02 PM
ascendant does not actually tell you about looks.

It is only the aspects and trines. I have seen bad looking people in nearly all ascendants
Rising sign does tell about looks.. Whether good or bad. Naturally all signs are different and depending on the decanate of a sign, family hereditary, what the chart ruler is doing and whether there are any planets in the 1st house.....No one rising sign has the best looks.
This is a generalisation and a question posed by those who are not very knowledgeable about astrology.

Rebel Uranian
09-30-2011, 02:00 AM
It's under "Humor" for a reason.

sethi
09-30-2011, 04:30 AM
Rising sign does tell about looks.. Whether good or bad. Naturally all signs are different and depending on the decanate of a sign, family hereditary, what the chart ruler is doing and whether there are any planets in the 1st house.....No one rising sign has the best looks.
This is a generalisation and a question posed by those who are not very knowledgeable about astrology.


Well, yes rising sign does tell you how the person would be , but what I actually wanted to say was that whether or not a person will be beautiful, will be shown by good aspects, and not rising signs. Especially to watch would be venus and moon.

nemesis
09-30-2011, 11:28 PM
I can agree with that about the other aspects having a play.

Like Taurus being my Asc is ruled by Venus (which is in Libra for me) and that connects to the rest of my Libra stellium with Mars and Pluto.

Most people say I look Venusian so I suppose that would add to me being a mix of Taurus & Libra.

Also I think Asc's Decan plays a role as well like my Decan is Virgo and I've read it makes me smaller and more trim then I would regularly be with Taurus Asc.

cloibne
10-04-2011, 01:03 AM
Aqua of course... i heard it's generally the air signs

When I think a male or female is beautiful I usually find out they have a Gemini or Aquarius influence but I love the look of a Cancer's softness and large eyes so tempered with the finer bone structure and high coloring that seems to be an 'air sign thing' they can be a breathtaking combination.
as for AC specifically, I'd say I seem to find Libra and Aries AC people attractive both physically and personally.

In case noone has seen this link yet :
http://www.astrofaces.com/astrofaces/index.html

cloibne
10-04-2011, 01:17 AM
Well, yes rising sign does tell you how the person would be , but what I actually wanted to say was that whether or not a person will be beautiful, will be shown by good aspects, and not rising signs. Especially to watch would be venus and moon.

Hmm
This whole concept has always intrigued me, especially being a Taurus whose description often includes 'well formed'.
I was never beating boys away with a stick in a possitive she's-so-pretty way...I'm no Elizabeth Taylor or Grace Kelly.

I have described my looks in another thread.

My moon is trine venus.
Depending on the chart, my venus is in the same house as but does not conjunct my sun. Venus in Libra or Taurus indicates prettiness, am I right?
My Venus is not in retrograde.
The only possibly negative aspect seems to be opposition Pluto.
I did have a birth defect in my throat and continue to get throat infections.

Another common interpretation is that venus possitive aspects indicate talents and possitive influences- I have always been deeply nourished by and comforted by beauty in all forms but especially sight and hearing.I have had success with both myself.

I'll include two versions of my chart.

sethi
10-04-2011, 07:43 AM
Hmm
This whole concept has always intrigued me, especially being a Taurus whose description often includes 'well formed'.
I was never beating boys away with a stick in a possitive she's-so-pretty way...I'm no Elizabeth Taylor or Grace Kelly.

I have described my looks in another thread.

.


Hello

I had a look at your chart and I would define it as a pretty, intelligent looking face with daring eyes / challenging eyes, someone to watch out for.

Ever tried for the Military / police?

You have a lucky chart in some ways . But I see your 7th house as afflicted. Your best chances of a partner would be one who is definitely older to you.

Chances of your having a mars ruled individual are very high to say the least.
Keep your thoughts strictly under control.

More maybe later if you would like me to.

cloibne
10-04-2011, 08:25 AM
Hello

I had a look at your chart and I would define it as a pretty, intelligent looking face with daring eyes / challenging eyes, someone to watch out for.

Ever tried for the Military / police?

You have a lucky chart in some ways . But I see your 7th house as afflicted. Your best chances of a partner would be one who is definitely older to you.

Chances of your having a mars ruled individual are very high to say the least.
Keep your thoughts strictly under control.

More maybe later if you would like me to.

Wow thanks

Yes, I have considered a career in specifically the navy at different times throughout my life. I was also born in a prominent naval town, Newport RI.
I worked for Americorps.

I have always been prone to 'hero worship' and really enjoy intelligent older males when they can look past prescribed social roles. Most of my suitors have been older/younger by about 5+/- years at least over the years.My father was who I felt closest to although he was around least. My family and aquaintances all used to say I'd be married to a professor by now.

I am also *ummmm* known for my occasional 'death stare' :innocent:
I also inherited my father's blue eyes in a family of brown eyed women.

Any more insights or questions are more then welcome. I have albums posted on my profile which may also be of interest.

sethi
10-04-2011, 08:40 AM
Well if you want to know any thing from me you must have a specific question.

Generalized questions usually bore me and I don't really have the time for them.

cloibne
10-04-2011, 09:31 AM
Well if you want to know any thing from me you must have a specific question.

Generalized questions usually bore me and I don't really have the time for them.
Well, so far I have been looking at why you may have written what you did about my chart-
military career because Aries is a war sign?
Face pretty because Aries rules the head and there is an aspect with venus cusping into Taurus' house?
Eyes intelligent because of Aries again and Pisces is also known for having influence over the eyes and then, Mercury is sort of cusped there ( I'm still hopeless at degree reading and determining those things) ?

Why should I 'watch (my) thoughts' ?

sethi
10-05-2011, 04:32 AM
Well, so far I have been looking at why you may have written what you did about my chart-
military career because Aries is a war sign?
Face pretty because Aries rules the head and there is an aspect with venus cusping into Taurus' house?
Eyes intelligent because of Aries again and Pisces is also known for having influence over the eyes and then, Mercury is sort of cusped there ( I'm still hopeless at degree reading and determining those things) ?

Why should I 'watch (my) thoughts' ?

Well I am not going to discuss why you look like the way you look.You will have to check up yourself.
Everyone has a different way / and experience of looking at charts.

Where my predictions are concerned, one can either take it or leave it.

I don't use intercepted houses but whole houses. You should try it too. This is where each new house starts at 0 degrees and ends at 30 degrees.

cloibne
10-05-2011, 05:20 AM
Well I am not going to discuss why you look like the way you look.You will have to check up yourself.
Everyone has a different way / and experience of looking at charts.

Where my predictions are concerned, one can either take it or leave it.

I don't use intercepted houses but whole houses. You should try it too. This is where each new house starts at 0 degrees and ends at 30 degrees.

I am hoping to learn how diffferent people reach the conclusions they do from charts and why people choose the chart types and reading preferrences that they choose.
It would help me understand why you wrote the conclusions you wrote, I'm not trying to argue about whether or not your assesment was correct in my real life, I was wondering about what you read in my chart that led you to your statements ?

sethi
10-05-2011, 05:37 AM
I am hoping to learn how diffferent people reach the conclusions they do from charts and why people choose the chart types and reading preferrences that they choose.
It would help me understand why you wrote the conclusions you wrote, I'm not trying to argue about whether or not your assesment was correct in my real life, I was wondering about what you read in my chart that led you to your statements ?

you should not look a gift horse in the mouth. Point no. 1.

Plus there are some astrologers in this forum who will love to disagree on other people's way of interpretation. So I am not going to give the other person any chance on that.

So instead of asking what you are asking, post another persons chart and ask about his / her looks.

Also you will have to read up a few books on astrology (which I don't think u have done so) to understand what the placement of different stars mean in different houses.

No body can teach any one anything unless the other person is willing to learn. So where astrology is concerned, the best tool is self help.

A lot of good astrologers are self taught, they have not attended any schools (astrology) to learn astrology.

cloibne
10-05-2011, 07:40 AM
you should not look a gift horse in the mouth. Point no. 1.

Plus there are some astrologers in this forum who will love to disagree on other people's way of interpretation. So I am not going to give the other person any chance on that.

So instead of asking what you are asking, post another persons chart and ask about his / her looks.

Also you will have to read up a few books on astrology (which I don't think u have done so) to understand what the placement of different stars mean in different houses.

No body can teach any one anything unless the other person is willing to learn. So where astrology is concerned, the best tool is self help.

A lot of good astrologers are self taught, they have not attended any schools (astrology) to learn astrology.

ok .
thanks 'gift horse' (?)
and yes, I have read books but I am working on learning more based on my own assumption of my not knowing/understanding astrology compared to more avid practitioners.
Thanks again. Good luck with your future endeavors

sethi
10-05-2011, 09:09 AM
You are welcome

PD187540
10-16-2011, 07:04 PM
I'm going to go with Capricorn Rising. They have this ruggedly handsome look, and as they age, it seems like they withstand the test of time and actually look younger. It's funny because in their early years, they tend to look much older for their age. It's only when they enter their 30s and beyond that a youthful appearance begins to take hold.

PD187540
10-17-2011, 03:18 AM
Muchas gracias. This is what I tell myself every time I look in a mirror.
Conceited? Probably. But, it's all I got with Saturn as a backup buddy.
We do like to raise hell :devil: or :innocent:

"Life is trouble. Only death is not. To be alive is to undo your belt and *look* for trouble." Zorba the Greek, Nikos Kazantzakis

You're totally right. And sorry for coming off conceited as well. I'm also a Cappy Rising :biggrin:

PD187540
10-17-2011, 06:42 PM
Cappys never have an occasion to feel sorry for being conceited. There is an interesting column in David Roell's newsletter this week about Saturn in the first house.

http://www.astroamerica.com/newsletters/2011-october18.pdf

Yes, I read that when I got it in my email box earlier today. Very interesting, for sure. I share a lot of those qualities he mentions.

Also, being a Rising Capricorn, my Saturn is in Scorpio. Technically, it's in the 9th House, but it's exactly sitting to the right of my MC, conjunct it.

Love2Know
10-26-2011, 02:01 AM
I'm Gemini rising forming a grand trine with Venus in Aquarius and Mars in Libra; Mercury (AC ruler) in Capricorn. I guess Gemini rising isn't considered to be the most attractive rising sign, but it IS in the Libra decan and with the grand trine to Venus and Mars in air signs, I guess that helps. Venus is also conjunt the MC and Mars is in Libra in the 5th. I'm not too shabby-looking, I think. I have attached a picture of me as Cleopatra for Halloween, and my natal chart. Here's more me:

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1436/87/58/16107913/n16107913_35111429_5459.jpg

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1436/87/58/16107913/n16107913_35118146_1210.jpg

Anyone have anything to add after looking at my chart?

you kind of look like the main actress from brides maids and shes on snl

Love2Know
10-26-2011, 02:06 AM
I thought It would interesting to discuss what rising sign you find the most Attractive

Physically and Mentally

Leo rising for the win... but then again my main love is a Scorpio risining I believe.. my puppy

Rebel Uranian
10-26-2011, 09:17 PM
You know your puppy's rising sign? Cool! People actually do dog astrology! I thought that was only my idea...

Also, Gemini risings aren't ugly. You can't call any sign ugly because there are always aspects or planetary positions interfering. All signs can look absolutely stunning, some just look better than others without those aspects or positions. I like seeing people who aren't Libra risings sometimes, you know what I mean?

Love2Know
10-26-2011, 09:20 PM
Yeah plus some of the most hideous and freak guys I met were libra, not libra rising though so it all depends. I used to attract way too many libras and saggs :( Also beauty is subjective. Yes I believe my dog is a Pisces sun Scorpio Rising Taurus moon. He can aquire fame easily but only cares about pleasing his family and is infatuated by his daddy (my bf) yeah I tottally looked up his chart on astro. I am starting to think I got false info though cuz I found one document put his birthday as march 10th and another as april 10th but the vet said he is a little immature for march 10th.... who knows I had an ex who was a sag libra risin... He was dangerously charming.

Lightrider
10-27-2011, 12:56 AM
What Rising Sign Has the Best looks

I think it's up to everyone's own preferences and expectations. From what i read about Gemini Rising, those natives tend to have beautiful arms and hands. They make full use of them to make gestures while explaining things or even arguing. Also they tend to have a tender complexion.

I'm Cancer Rising and the description fits me almost perfectly, except for the boobies. Oh well kinda... need to lose some weight :(

Love2Know
10-27-2011, 01:13 AM
I always get told I have beautiful hands, maybe Lilith Gemini too yeah weight me too I gained weight :(

Rebel Uranian
10-27-2011, 01:27 AM
Do you have a Gemini ascendant? Do you have Lilith in the 1st house? Are you short(er)?

I wish I had a planet in Gemini, specifically early Gemini, then I'd have a Grand Air Trine.

Yes, I skip around a lot when I talk. I don't know how to think without skipping around a lot, how can I not do it when I communicate those thoughts?

Love2Know
10-27-2011, 05:35 AM
I have no planets in air, just 11th house gemini or however you spell it and gemini lilith and 3ed house pluto.

Zonark
10-27-2011, 07:09 AM
I'm a Capricorn rising and when finding out that the Ascendant can determine much of your physical appearance I found it hilarious that I look kind of like a satyr, minus the horns :devil:

PD187540
10-27-2011, 07:29 PM
I'm a Capricorn rising and when finding out that the Ascendant can determine much of your physical appearance I found it hilarious that I look kind of like a satyr, minus the horns :devil:

What exactly are the stereotypical physical features of a Capricorn Rising?

Lightrider
10-27-2011, 08:02 PM
What exactly are the stereotypical physical features of a Capricorn Rising?

Lean complexion, sometimes downright bony. They tend to have pronounced cheekbones, beautiful teeth and smile. Nice eyebrows and a piercing stare. Basically they are "hard" looking. Also it's said they age more gracefully than other natives.

Love2Know
10-27-2011, 08:49 PM
doesn't woopie goldberge have capricorn rising? or wait apparently Aquarius ah and what about the decans of your rising sign

http://www.elbertwade.com/page102.html

anyways thats true for my bf but I am fat and lazy... seriously. Super lazy.

Lightrider
10-27-2011, 09:15 PM
The first decanate is ruled by Saturn only. The other decanates of Capricorn are sequentially co-ruled by Venus and Mercury. So yeah, decanates also play a role, just like planets do.

I'm not sure what planet rules my ASC. My ASC is in Cancer (fist decanate), but Retrograde Jupiter is tightly conjunct it. Maybe it's ruled by both Moon and Jupiter?

Love2Know
10-27-2011, 09:16 PM
hmm I dunno but what decan is it in?

Lightrider
10-27-2011, 09:27 PM
1st decanate.

Also what rising sign you think looks better? For me is either Libra, Leo or Sagittarius. Even though i don't go checking girls' rising sign, i find that those descriptions fit my liking the best.

Love2Know
10-27-2011, 09:44 PM
no idea ones :: I think Almudena Fernandez is super hot but don't know her rising sign but a little gross skinny I morphed what our baby wouled look like :) ahahhahaa

Rebel Uranian
10-27-2011, 11:06 PM
I think Leo has the best looks, but that's because they're on my Descendant, and if they have any planets there they form a Grand Fire Trine in the synastry.

PD187540
10-28-2011, 07:01 PM
Lean complexion, sometimes downright bony. They tend to have pronounced cheekbones, beautiful teeth and smile. Nice eyebrows and a piercing stare. Basically they are "hard" looking. Also it's said they age more gracefully than other natives.


Well I'm tall and mostly lean (need to work on the tiny love handles though haha). DEFINITELY a piercing stare. It's like if people look at me after a while, they know that I can see their soul. I also feel like I'm looking younger the older I get, so that's also true.

I think I'm in the first decanate of Cap Rising...8 degrees 59 minutes. What does that mean?

Love2Know
10-28-2011, 07:07 PM
Well I'm tall and mostly lean (need to work on the tiny love handles though haha). DEFINITELY a piercing stare. It's like if people look at me after a while, they know that I can see their soul. I also feel like I'm looking younger the older I get, so that's also true.

I think I'm in the first decanate of Cap Rising...8 degrees 59 minutes. What does that mean?

http://www.elbertwade.com/page107.html

PD187540
10-28-2011, 07:47 PM
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EXCELLENT! Thank you! :cool:

thedeeperyougo
11-15-2011, 09:37 PM
Popular thread. Has anyone done a tally on the responses received for this question? I'd be curious what the most agreed-upon answer is. I saw Leo listed quite a few times but not Virgo. I'm a female with Leo rising but I have noticed that Virgo rising women in particular are insanely beautiful. Not sure about the guys... it's harder to know the rising signs of others, of course.
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PD187540
11-15-2011, 09:48 PM
Popular thread. Has anyone done a tally on the responses received for this question? I'd be curious what the most agreed-upon answer is. I saw Leo listed quite a few times but not Virgo. I'm a female with Leo rising but I have noticed that Virgo rising women in particular are insanely beautiful. Not sure about the guys... it's harder to know the rising signs of others, of course.
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lol my mom is Virgo rising and she's not "insanely beautiful". Capricorn rising for the men is the winner there. For the women, maybe Taurus rising?

Rebel Uranian
11-15-2011, 11:57 PM
Virgo is supposedly the most common rising sign in some hemisphere (I forgot which one to be honest, but it doesn't matter much because it's supposed.) It's the most average looking sign in the Zodiac. Virgo is the sign of moderation, not to be mistaken with Libra & balance. Virgo is probably the hardest rising sign to get to look striking because of that. Someone one time did a poll which put Libra as the #1 most attractive and Aquarius as the #2 most attractive for both genders, but both of those signs and the air signs in general are pretty androgynous so it'd probably vary if you did a poll with women only and a poll with men only.

Lightrider
11-16-2011, 12:41 AM
Virgo Rising people tend to be very health conscious, which decreases the chances of having weight issues. They also like to dress "perfectly", there's nothing out of place about them. They have a roundish (rather oval shaped) head and thin body frame. Women are likely to have a pear shaped body. "Neat" is a word that defines Virgo Rising people well. They have that kind of appeal.

http://www.serendipity-astrolovers.com/Virgo-rising.html
http://www.elbertwade.com/page103.html

Rebel Uranian
11-16-2011, 01:01 AM
I saw that website before when I was searching up about being a Double Aquarius, which is usually a term applied to the Sun and Moon rather than the Sun and Ascendant. Off-topic-ish: I find having one luminary and the Ascendant in the same sign to generally be much more ideal than having both luminaries in the same sign since the Sun works better in any masculine sign (including ones it is debilitated in) than any feminine sign and the Moon works better in any feminine sign (including ones it is debilitated in) than any masculine sign, and generally having the planet in the 1st house strengthens it a lot, especially if it is conjunct an angle.

I'm not sure I find Virgos/Virgo risers nearly as attractive as many people seem to. That's probably just because I'm an Aquarian and Virgo is inconjunct. Apparently even Air signs can't escape bias. Aquarius and Cancer is the worst combination ever, according to multiple sources which are all people who are Aquarians.

Drowzy_Shooter
11-27-2011, 06:45 AM
Leo, because its mine :lol:

Love2Know
11-27-2011, 04:32 PM
Yay Leo rising! Our confidence is attractive! There is lies then there is statistical lies......

gem81
12-04-2011, 02:24 PM
Probably Leo or Libra.

datvirgochick
12-10-2011, 01:05 AM
libras are the most attractive rising sign actually.... or virgos cause they always look a lot younger than what they are..

omg i have never heard that about virgo rising i am 25 and some people think i'm still in high school

Beautiful Ending
12-24-2011, 12:39 PM
I think all the rising signs have a certain unique/individual beauty about them. Would it be considered bias if I where to say I find Sagittarius to be the most attractive of all though? :whistling:

selfless
12-24-2011, 01:08 PM
it does not depend on the ascendant only..
If u want a beautiful Body , then examine, which planets are sitting in Lagna(ascendant)..
if u want a beautiful face, then see, which planets are sitting in 2nd house from Ascendant..

eternal wanderer
12-24-2011, 02:02 PM
I am a Leo rising and Leo is definitely the best and best looking rising sign!

What a silly question?! If you are not a Leo you are nothing!


Is there a bit of truth in every joke? :sideways:

Choe
12-24-2011, 02:13 PM
I am a Leo rising and Leo is definitely the best and best looking rising sign!

What a silly question?! If you are not a Leo you are nothing!

Is there a bit of truth in every joke? :sideways:


Actually I also think Leo asc people are one of the most attractive. I know many of them.

Drowzy_Shooter
12-24-2011, 04:02 PM
Actually I also think Leo asc people are one of the most attractive. I know many of them.


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sequestra
12-24-2011, 04:45 PM
I think all the rising signs have a certain unique/individual beauty about them. Would it be considered bias if I where to say I find Sagittarius to be the most attractive of all though? :whistling:

Lol the bias is understandable. As a fellow sag riser I don't think it of myself, but I DO tend to find other sag risers really attractive, particularly of course if their asc is conjuncting mine... It just makes sense. :kissing:

Oh PS and virgo rising... Dear God mwah

MSO
12-24-2011, 11:27 PM
I think that Taurus ascendants don't look anything like Taurus Suns! I have a Taurus ascendant and I'm not all big-shouldered and thick. I think I look more like a Pisces. In fact, I'm going to tell everyone I'm a Pisces ascendant from now on. Because I use my own theories on astrology. No one can tell me otherwise. And I'm not stubborn.

Rebel Uranian
12-25-2011, 12:52 AM
You're a Aries Asc :annoyed:

or virgos cause they always look a lot younger than what they are..

Virgo is ruled by Mercury, which makes people look young, so no suprises here.

MSO
12-25-2011, 07:47 AM
You're a Aries Asc :annoyed:

No I'm not :lol:

Love2Know
12-26-2011, 04:46 PM
Uranus rising no doubt :)

Mikha
12-28-2011, 01:15 AM
i think libra and scorpio rising...i find one very pleasant to look at and the other magnetic.

I have a pisces rising.

AQ LIV
12-28-2011, 03:11 PM
Hi,




For attractive lips, Speak words of kindness.
For lovely eyes, Seek out the good in people.
For a slim figure, Share your food with the hungry.
For beautiful hair, Let a child run his or her fingers through it once a day.
For poise, Walk with the knowledge you'll never walk alone.
People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; Never throw out anybody.
Remember, if you ever need a helping hand, you'll find one at the end of your arm.
As you grow older you will discover that you have two hands; one for helping yourself, the other for helping others.
The beauty of a woman is not in the clothes she wears, the figure that she carries, or the way she combs her hair.
The beauty of a woman must be seen from in her eyes, because that is the doorway to her heart, the place where love resides.
The beauty of a woman is not in a facial mole, but true beauty in a Woman is reflected in her soul. It is the caring that she lovingly gives, the passion that she knows.
And the beauty of a woman, with passing years only grows!
-Beauty Tips by Audrey Hepburn


http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/5u3esY7UnQQ6.htm (http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/5u3esY7UnQQ6.htm)

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/4561/54758388.jpg


http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8528/seasonsgreetingsb.gif


AQ

Love2Know
12-30-2011, 05:01 PM
Wow I don't agree with that.

cloibne
02-26-2012, 12:03 PM
You're a Aries Asc :annoyed:



Virgo is ruled by Mercury, which makes people look young, so no surprises here.

Cool-thanks!
I have now learned another interpretation.

I have Mercury in my 1st house and have always looked younger than my years but had never read that about Mercury/Virgo, only Aries.

?:
My sister is a Virgo sun and she has always looked very womanly and mature. By the time she was 14 years old, we'd be out together, I being 3 years old, and people would think she was my mother.

PD187540
02-26-2012, 08:34 PM
"Virgo is ruled by Mercury, which makes people look young"

Is that so? My Mercury is in Virgo, trining my Capricorn Ascendant. No wonder I feel like I'm looking younger the older I'm getting! Makes sense now!

tokyo.lights
02-26-2012, 09:59 PM
I thought It would interesting to discuss what rising sign you find the most Attractive

Physically and Mentally
Physically, for me it has to be Aquarius Rising. They have these strong chiseled features, quite stunning to behold :biggrin: A lot of Aquarian Suns have this too.

Mentally...Aries, Pisces, Virgo, Aquarius....all sign of my personal planets =P

cloibne
02-29-2012, 05:08 PM
http://www.astrotheme.com/images/carte.php?ID=0
http://www.imagem-music.com/media/40885/nick%20crop.jpg

Nick Dodgson, The Kaiser Chiefs,
Libra with Aquarius Moon.
His birth time is unknown so, the below chart just has him as 12pm
I think his rising sign could be Gemini or Sagitarius because of his refined features.
I could also see 'Pisces' because he is rather delicate with intriguing eyes.
His eyes, along with his full lips and square jaw could indicate Scoripio influences on his looks too, though...hmmm...Pluto is in his Sun sign with Venus ( another beautiful fair colored indicator- to have the Sun and Venus together and to have Venus in Libra).
I'll include his chart,below.

cloibne
02-29-2012, 05:27 PM
http://www.astrotheme.com/images/carte.php?ID=50
Here's another good looking guy, he is a fellow Taurus.
He's interesting because as he has aged he has looked more Scorpio or Sagitarius influenced, to me.
Scorpio's ruler is in the sign. According to Astrotheme, his dominants are
Scorpio,Taurus,Aquarius.
If so, that explains his intense yet delicate looks with the underlying 'softness'.
An intriguing combination, right?
He's also very funny, kind and intelligent.His Mercury is with his sun and his Venus is in Aries while Mars is in Scorpio with Pluto.I'd expect him to be a little darker but the Venus and Mercury explain his quick playful charm.
He's very gregarious and outgoing while still having a sweet quiet energy.

I do not see predominantly any of the typical Taurean traits except maybe his thick hair that grows in cowlicks and his hooded deep-set eyes. He is not 'sturdy' or 'solid'. He does not have a thick neck but arguably a lovely neck. He is of course, a singer.
He almost looks more Aries influenced with his strong jaw and thick eyebrows and big toothy smile.
Maybe this is due to Venus in Aries?
His being more refined than other Taureans is probably his Aquarius moon.
I always think of Aquarians as long and delicate and blonde.


http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1622630342307&id=a8500c24d644b2769a3f3e41b25377d4 http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1626508887051&id=b0b4de0e852c2ff566df02e112d7de12


Here's his chart

cloibne
03-01-2012, 03:07 AM
Okay, I am obsessing- I know.
I am posting Christina Ricci's chart.
Her dominants are supposedly
Virgo Pisces Aquarius
Mercury Jupiter Mars

I can see Virgo in her thick flowing dark hair and hourglass figure.
I can see Jupiter in her large joyfully contagious smile.
I can see Mercury in her baby doll looks.
I can definitely see Pisces in her large eyes, down-turned mouth, diminutive stature and again: delicate baby doll looks and proportions.

Am I seeing 'Scorpio' because Mars, Scorpio's Uncle is present as dominant?
Is it just the Pisces/Capricorn or Virgo combo' that 'reads' 'Scorpio' to me?
She has intense eyes,shining dark hair, full lips,a square/heart shaped face which are all associated with Scorpio, not just water signs as a generality.

EDIT: I have just learned that having an Aquarius dominant/Moon/AC fits a lot of her look.For instance, very specifically: the wide round forehead tapering at the chin. The unique almost weird look that viewers cannot forget.
I always associated wide foreheads with either Aries or Scorpio.

Also: WHY is Pisces a dominant? Because the Ascendant's ruler is in Pisces?
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/18/article-2102866-11CA243B000005DC-167_306x669.jpg


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/18/article-2102866-11CA243B000005DC-167_306x669.jpg


Her birth time and therefore AC are actually known.
I think she looks very Pisces/Scorpio mix and would never have guessed she has Capricorn influence ( I am far from expert but, that is part of mu point: trying to find ways to see patterns in charts as evidenced in the subjects)

Janus
03-10-2012, 01:15 AM
I definitely like Libra rising - I almost always find girls with Libra rising pretty.

Gemini Rising people are also handsome (Note: I'm not just saying this because I have Gemini rising...really I'm not...:D)

NeoWarrior83
03-19-2012, 07:37 PM
What about people who have Pluto in Libra rising?

Quixotic
03-19-2012, 09:47 PM
Libra risings.
I met a guy this weekend who has a libra rising; his face was perfectly symmetrical, handsome, cunning and charismatic as hell. Most popular guy of his entire group of friends.

Love2Know
03-20-2012, 06:55 AM
I know several Libras or people with strong Libra placements, more than most signs, and a lot of them are not anything physically special. Pretty flirty though. Sags/ Scorpios are the hottest :D

Drowzy_Shooter
03-27-2012, 05:24 AM
Sags/ Scorpios are the hottest :D

You should preach to the masses, because you speak the truth :P

omgunicorns
03-28-2012, 07:41 AM
I think all rising signs can be beautiful. :)

vlsmercury7
05-20-2012, 10:26 AM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Well, that's what I want my mind to think! The reality is somewhat different. I'm happily married to a man who is a Gemini with Scorpio rising and Aquarius Moon. It is true - he gets every man, woman, child and beast buzzing around him like bees to a hive! Sometimes though, he also gets approached by aggressive thugs for no reason. That can be upsetting, but he stands his ground without resorting to violence and they walk away.

Other than Scorpio rising, I'm a sucker for Taurus (most of my closest friends have a Taurus Sun, Moon or Asc). I have Venus in Taurus. I also have a soft spot for Capricorn, Pisces and Libra. I'm an Aries Sun and Moon, Virgo rising.

theV
05-31-2012, 12:18 AM
My sister always tells me I have a blend of masculine-feminine look

Leo asc trine sag moon and trine sagi jupiter and sextile libra mercury

The_Saturnian
05-31-2012, 11:32 AM
Attraction is a point of view which can be debated amongst people. Every Ascendant would have their strengths and weaknesses, even in terms of attraction. ('Nobody is perfect' as they say). Some people get attracted Platonically to others for reasons beyond their own comprehension.

Analysis of the planets present or aspecting the 1st, 5th or 7th houses can attribute to both the physical as well as the mental attraction. However specifically the location of Venus and Moon in the subject's natal chart determines their physical attraction and the location of Jupiter, Neptune and/or Mercury determines behavioural traits that give rise to mental attraction.

theV
05-31-2012, 11:52 AM
Attraction is a point of view which can be debated amongst people. Every Ascendant would have their strengths and weaknesses, even in terms of attraction. ('Nobody is perfect' as they say). Some people get attracted Platonically to others for reasons beyond their own comprehension.

Analysis of the planets present or aspecting the 1st, 5th or 7th houses can attribute to both the physical as well as the mental attraction. However specifically the location of Venus and Moon in the subject's natal chart determines their physical attraction and the location of Jupiter, Neptune and/or Mercury determines behavioural traits that give rise to mental attraction.

Venus in the 2nd house moon the 5th house and mercury in the 3rd house neptune 6th house Jupiter 5th house

The_Saturnian
05-31-2012, 01:26 PM
Venus in the 2nd house moon the 5th house and mercury in the 3rd house neptune 6th house Jupiter 5th house

Agreed! I would like to add if I may Venus in the Ascendant, since it usually aspects the Descendant house of marriage.

Jai Kishen
05-31-2012, 03:05 PM
Libra risings.
I met a guy this weekend who has a libra rising; his face was perfectly symmetrical, handsome, cunning and charismatic as hell. Most popular guy of his entire group of friends.

All the libra risings I know have asymmetrical faces .
so asymmetrical that u can easily spot them out .

but yea, they do have a charming and frdly personality

princess valhalla
05-31-2012, 03:34 PM
Thinking about who is most beautiful women in the world, to me name is Aishwarya Rai. The cbsnews has an article about it. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/12/29/60minutes/main663862.shtml

She won Miss World title in 1994.

The chart I have for her has:

Group 1
~ Libra Rising
~ ASC conjunct Pluto, sextile Neptune and trine Jupiter
~ ASC lord Venus conjunct North Node
Group 2
~ Sun Sign: Scorpio
~ Mars on cusp of 8th

In this case, question is related to rising sign and answer is Libra, but rising sign is just a contributing factor. Here, Group 1 is responsible for beauty and Group 2 is responsible for being noticed.

Wallpaper: http://marablogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/aishwarya_rai_wallpaper_12.jpg
http://marablogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/aishwarya_rai_wallpaper_12.jpg

for sure! She is one of, if not THE, most beautiful woman in the world. :smile: Beautiful skin and perfect face (libra rising) with those gorgeous eyes (scorpio with pluto conjunct asc.)

theV
05-31-2012, 07:44 PM
Agreed! I would like to add if I may Venus in the Ascendant, since it usually aspects the Descendant house of marriage.

I didn't understand what are you trying to tell me

theV
05-31-2012, 10:57 PM
I was watching this video on youtube about venus in the 2nd house and I heard 2HV gives a charming pretty face here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d6hay-Jf5E

A lot of beautiful actors have 2HV mention Denis Richards Brad pitt Leonardo Dic David Beckham

The_Saturnian
06-01-2012, 11:21 AM
I didn't understand what are you trying to tell me

Nothing I'm just agreeing to what you said earlier and adding on to that, that Venus in the Ascendant is also a key factor for good looks. That's all :)

theV
06-01-2012, 04:50 PM
Neptune in the 1H is highly photogenic also

The_Saturnian
06-01-2012, 06:09 PM
Neptune in the 1H is highly photogenic also

Hmmm. Interesting. Thats a new one to me. Does such a native give off a very psychic or intuitive look if this is the case? Blue eyes perhaps?

fullmoonlibra
06-01-2012, 07:30 PM
Leo rising of course :tongue:
They need to get attention, so they use their appearance (their hair) to attain it.

fullmoonlibra
06-01-2012, 07:34 PM
for sure! She is one of, if not THE, most beautiful woman in the world. :smile: Beautiful skin and perfect face (libra rising) with those gorgeous eyes (scorpio with pluto conjunct asc.)

She definitely is the most beautiful woman in the world :w00t:

fullmoonlibra
06-01-2012, 07:38 PM
I'm always surprised when people talk about how beautiful I am, because I always say there are others that are more beautiful than I am.

I have Venus in Taurus (10th), conjunct MC, quintile Jupiter (7th), trine Moon in Libra (2nd), square Leo AC.
And AC trine Sun, trine Uranus, trine Neptune, trine NN.

Munch
06-01-2012, 09:11 PM
I'm always surprised when people talk about how beautiful I am, because I always say there are others that are more beautiful than I am.

I don't really notice it in myself most of the time. I rarely try to play up my looks in any over the top way, especially as I get older. I used to get flustered when people said I was beautiful, now I just laugh and profess that God decided to give me a head start in the looks department because I am too lazy to to care.

Also, I suppose having Venus/Jupiter in mutual reception gives me a boost of luck in the looks department. I'm Libra rising. I hope I don't sound big headed. :unsure:

theV
06-01-2012, 11:20 PM
Does the north node has anything to do with our appearance

DumasEXE
06-02-2012, 12:21 AM
Mmm.. physically I would say, Pisces Rising, something about the appearance is rather mystical which actually appeals to me... as for mentally, no idea, I haven't dated anyone before so I can't say. xD

fullmoonlibra
06-02-2012, 12:40 AM
Neptune in the 1H is highly photogenic also

Interesting!

The_Saturnian
06-02-2012, 04:24 AM
Mmm.. physically I would say, Pisces Rising, something about the appearance is rather mystical which actually appeals to me... as for mentally, no idea, I haven't dated anyone before so I can't say. xD

Yes. They do tend to give a very 'Platonic Aura' towards persons that find them attractive.

*emma*
06-03-2012, 07:58 AM
Kate Middleton now wife of the next but heir to the throne is so beautiful and stylish, some astrologers put her with a libra ascendant though her birth time is not known, she cant be anything but a libra rising unless she has venus plonked on it

:biggrin:

Caro
06-03-2012, 09:39 AM
I wish that neptune in the first offered automatic photogenic. I do like photograpahy but from behind the lens, I dont like being in front. So maybe it depends on the aspects/sign! Im sun square neptune.I do not take a good picture.

Duchess of Cambridge - chart rectifications have included cancer asc with moon in first. Which I think fits really well. She has mars and saturn in libra. Venus in aqua - which can be glamourous. her fashion choices are very controlled and colours muted. The drastic weight loss and her makeup at times makes her look older than she is.(IMO)

Munch
06-03-2012, 03:36 PM
I wish that neptune in the first offered automatic photogenic. I do like photograpahy but from behind the lens, I dont like being in front. So maybe it depends on the aspects/sign! Im sun square neptune.I do not take a good picture.

Duchess of Cambridge - chart rectifications have included cancer asc with moon in first. Which I think fits really well. She has mars and saturn in libra. Venus in aqua - which can be glamourous. her fashion choices are very controlled and colours muted. The drastic weight loss and her makeup at times makes her look older than she is.(IMO)


The dark colors (and as tabloid have pointed out), the same hair do. Sounds like her Capricorn sun really shines through.

*emma*
06-03-2012, 10:24 PM
I wish that neptune in the first offered automatic photogenic. I do like photograpahy but from behind the lens, I dont like being in front. So maybe it depends on the aspects/sign! Im sun square neptune.I do not take a good picture.

Duchess of Cambridge - chart rectifications have included cancer asc with moon in first. Which I think fits really well. She has mars and saturn in libra. Venus in aqua - which can be glamourous. her fashion choices are very controlled and colours muted. The drastic weight loss and her makeup at times makes her look older than she is.(IMO)

cancer rising? I dont think so. Having mars or saturn in libra does not make one beautiful. or venus in aquarius. She has a certain magic apart from that lot

The_Saturnian
06-04-2012, 05:41 PM
cancer rising? I dont think so. Having mars or saturn in libra does not make one beautiful. or venus in aquarius. She has a certain magic apart from that lot

If I'm correct in understanding that Saturn in Libra spiritually alleviates a person, would it not thereby make them mentally attractive?

*emma*
06-07-2012, 12:25 AM
hi, probably so, i was thinking physical beauty. i also have to amend my comment on venus in aquarius, some stunners have this.

Caro
06-07-2012, 08:27 AM
Munch

as regards the Duchess,

it is more the 'beige','cream', 'taupe' - that gets me. recently there has been some grey and brown!!! very restrained.

thinking about it you are right caps I know tend to go for the understated colours, also some aqua's (who are more saturnian) to me it seems so controlled. my uranian sense of colour would have to break out.

also when I mentioned the placements it was in response to the different posts. I e if libra rising she would have saturn/mars near asc. or if we consider venus brings in perceived beauty then aqua is where her venus is.

she is definitely very very thin now I hope she has not developed an eating disorder.

The_Saturnian
06-07-2012, 09:19 AM
hi, probably so, i was thinking physical beauty. i also have to amend my comment on venus in aquarius, some stunners have this.

Wow! I can certainly imagine a prominent Venus in Aquarius. Those gorgeous, clear "blue-lagoon" eyes coupled with a gift of physical beauty. Sounds like its one of the most attractive combinations in the Zodiac to me.

Moog
06-07-2012, 12:38 PM
Scorpio, obviously.

Actually, I don't think it works like this at all. I think you get better looking and less good looking people of every ascending sign. I'm not sure what makes a person beautiful, but I think well placed ascendant ruler and moon are important, and I suspect that particularly strong, angular planets make a difference too.

Hekate
06-12-2012, 05:50 PM
I noticed that strong Pesces in the chart or strong Neptun, which is a 8th superior of Venus, makes a person very beatiful with expecially beatiful eyes...mystic.
Beatiful is also Libra or a strong Venus.
Otherwise, I don't find Taurus beatiful. They are ruled by Venus, but we can't forget also the Moon in exaltation, which is much more ''particular'', but not really beatiful.
Also a strong Virgo generates beatiful traits, but colder kind of beauty.

Scorpio rising makes a person not so beautiful; or too small, or too fat, etc...but, it gives him/her a great carisma/magnetism. Have you ever falled in love with a person who is ougly but you couldn't understand why he/she is so attractive? :andy:

star7
06-15-2012, 10:40 AM
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

Libra rising has a certain "softness" and "grace" IMHO... ;)

Assyrian_Libra
11-26-2012, 05:50 PM
I got a little upset with the thread... I thought it was disrespectful and unfair to say who more attractive than someone else... not nice smh:innocent:

chei star
11-26-2012, 07:06 PM
I got a little upset with the thread... I thought it was disrespectful and unfair to say who more attractive than someone else... not nice smh:innocent:

I agree.. As an Aries rising I am the opposite of what is considered the most beautiful sign :(

I think Libra rising radiates beauty but not necessarily sexuality..

I am not what you would call 'beautiful' but I have been told that I exude sexuality. (Aries rising, Scorpio sun, merc, mars & pluto) Although I know for a fact some people would think that was ridiculous to hear that said about me (even I would agree with them!), some people find me repulsively ugly, other people are obsessively attracted to me...

But at the end of the day not everyone is attracted to the same!! My beautiful Libra friend (Capricorn rising, Cancer moon), blonde hair, perfect physical features etc, VERY feminine, gets attention from men who would never give me a second look and vice versa...

People either love me or hate me.. I guess that may be typical for a strong Scorpio type.

Personally I tend to gravitate towards people based on their Mars/Venus signs, I have seen a definite pattern there but no pattern with rising signs...

I usually attract Venus types.. Taurus/Libra men or with either sign prominent in their chart... Pisces and Cancer love me too, and two of my ex's are fellow Scorps. Sag, Leo and Aries you can forget about it because they will not give me a second glance..

Assyrian_Libra
11-26-2012, 07:41 PM
I agree.. As an Aries rising I am the opposite of what is considered the most beautiful sign :(

I think Libra rising radiates beauty but not necessarily sexuality..

I am not what you would call 'beautiful' but I have been told that I exude sexuality. (Aries rising, Scorpio sun, merc, mars & pluto) Although I know for a fact some people would think that was ridiculous to hear that said about me (even I would agree with them!), some people find me repulsively ugly, other people are obsessively attracted to me...

But at the end of the day not everyone is attracted to the same!! My beautiful Libra friend (Capricorn rising, Cancer moon), blonde hair, perfect physical features etc, VERY feminine, gets attention from men who would never give me a second look and vice versa...

People either love me or hate me.. I guess that may be typical for a strong Scorpio type.

Personally I tend to gravitate towards people based on their Mars/Venus signs, I have seen a definite pattern there but no pattern with rising signs...

I usually attract Venus types.. Taurus/Libra men or with either sign prominent in their chart... Pisces and Cancer love me too, and two of my ex's are fellow Scorps. Sag, Leo and Aries you can forget about it because they will not give me a second glance..

For some reason I'm attractive to a lot of different signs lol I just dont know about anyone that likes drama like leos or aries which drives me nuts LOL

I think I appear more Libra (the charm, the smile, the dimple) than my Leo rising except for I do have a natural large chest plate and people think I workout and I dont and people like to call me sunshine...lol but I do love gold and I got to have to wear something that I can get their attention if not I'm not going to be happy if I am drunk I have such loud voice to get their attention...:whistling:

chei star
11-26-2012, 07:52 PM
I just dont know about anyone that likes drama like leos or aries which drives me nuts LOL

This is true.. We can be 'too full on'. But at least it keeps things interesting.. having men get bored of me is something I have never experienced.

Assyrian_Libra
11-26-2012, 07:55 PM
This is true.. We can be 'too full on'. But at least it keeps things interesting.. having men get bored of me is something I have never experienced.


Oh I make sure things dont get boring... If I hear boring out of them I show them something if want to get smart mouth me about 'boring...' till they got no energy... release those ADHD...well I got ADHD lololol:happy:

Linzul
11-27-2012, 06:35 AM
Physically I would have to say Virgo rising guys. I'm a fan of a clean look. Mentally I would say that has more to do with Mars placement. As far as Mars goes I'll take Leo, Aries, Scorpio any day.

My husband is Virgo Rising, but I looked up some others too. I did right by my own internal hotness meter haha. Pluto and Uranus in the 1st, Mars in Aries, and Venus in Leo. A manscaper that isn't too squeamish to dig out his own ingrown hairs is good with me :smile:

star7
12-08-2012, 05:21 AM
I had forgotten I posted on this thread. I recieved an email recently someone had posted on same.
Said person thought this was an offensive thread.
I disagree.."Humor" is the main subject , and like I said in my original post;"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
I have fallen in love with Fire,Earth and Water Sun Signs..and they were all beautiful to me. ( guess I haven't met the right Air Sign yet ;)
I do think Sun Signs have distinctive character traits.
Most Sensual:
Water: Scorpio
Earth: Taurus
Fire: Leo
Air: ??? undecided, but if I had to guess, I would say Libra.
Just sayin ;)
ohhh... forgot to mention: the above mentioned Sun Signs I fell in love with...had Libra Ascendants...lol

Claire19
12-08-2012, 10:50 AM
I agree that beauty comes with all ascendants and the ruler. It is also in the eye of the beholder. There is no set pattern although a strong Venus is almost always present. For me I think Rita Hayworth was the ideal beauty but it is just my taste. We are attracted to those others that connect with our Venus Mars and the Moon.

Claire19
12-08-2012, 10:55 AM
Libra they say traditionally...
Some Libra risings (but also other rising signs) have dimples
That's so cute...

Gem Rising is also attractive... imo
It does depend on the ruling planet and its aspects. There are those Libra risings who have a challenged Venus who would not be so attractive.

cozycat
12-09-2012, 10:21 AM
I've read that many celebs, actresses and models have Saggitarian and Leo risings. I'm no expert, but this is what I feel about it:

Sag & Leo rising: 'Wow what a stunner', the 'hotties', not always traditionally beautiful, but always with a strong and hot or radiant presence.
eg. Monica Bellucci, Angelina Jolie, Marilyn Monroe, Jessica Alba, Anna Nicole Smith

Scorpio rising: 'Something about her just draws me in...', magnetic and hypnotizing, intense and concentrated type of presence. Men with Scorpion risings are the best looking for my tastes.
eg. Natalie Portman, Katharine Hepburn

Libra rising: 'She's really pretty', generic and wholesome sort of beauty, refined and balanced features, but less presence than fire sign risings or scorpio rising
eg. Scarlett Johansson, Jennifer Love Hewitt, Grace Kelly

Gemini & Virgo rising: Not stunningly 'beautiful', intensely 'magnetic' or traditionally 'pretty'...but attractive with an 'ageless' and well-kempt look. They also tend to look intelligent and youthful which gives them their appeal.
eg. Sandra Bullock, Julianne Moore, Audrey Tatou, Ava Gardner, I've read that Oprah is a Virgo rising too, she's always seemed well-kempt and looks very good for her age.

Melaike
12-09-2012, 04:49 PM
I've read that many celebs, actresses and models have Saggitarian and Leo risings. I'm no expert, but this is what I feel about it:

Sag & Leo rising: 'Wow what a stunner', the 'hotties', not always traditionally beautiful, but always with a strong and hot or radiant presence.
eg. Monica Bellucci, Angelina Jolie, Marilyn Monroe, Jessica Alba, Anna Nicole Smith

Scorpio rising: 'Something about her just draws me in...', magnetic and hypnotizing, intense and concentrated type of presence. Men with Scorpion risings are the best looking for my tastes.
eg. Natalie Portman, Katharine Hepburn

Libra rising: 'She's really pretty', generic sort of beauty, refined and balanced features, but less presence than fire sign risings or scorpio rising
eg. Scarlett Johansson, Jennifer Love Hewitt, Grace Kelly

Gemini & Virgo rising: Not stunningly 'beautiful', intensely 'magnetic' or traditionally 'pretty'...but attractive with an 'ageless' and well-kempt look. They also tend to look intelligent and youthful which gives them their appeal.
eg. Sandra Bullock, Julianne Moore, Audrey Tatou, Ava Gardner, I've read that Oprah is a Virgo rising too, she's always seemed well-kempt and looks very good for her age.

Where did you get the astrological information about these celebs from ?

M. Bellucci:Capricorn Rising Saturn in the first house
Angelina Jolie:Cancer rising Moon in Aries
Anna Nicole Smith:Last time I checked she was Libra rising

Jennifer Love Hewitt is Scorpio rising like Grace Kelly

Ava Gardner: Cancer rising Moon in Pisces.

cozycat
12-09-2012, 04:58 PM
Where did you get the astrological information about these celebs from ?

M. Bellucci:Capricorn Rising Saturn in the first house
Angelian Jolie:Cancer rising Moon in Aries
Anna Nicole Smith:Last I checked she was Libra rising

Jennifer Love Hewitt is Scorpio rising like Grace Kelly

Ava Gardner: Cancer rising Moon in Pisces.

a few astrology websites had that info hehe
they look like those rising signs...but the younger angelina jolie did look like a cancer rising...her face was round and features were soft back then...

Melaike
12-09-2012, 05:44 PM
a few astrology websites had that info hehe
they look like those rising signs...but the younger angelina jolie did look like a cancer rising...her face was round and features were soft back then...

I disagree.Plus you shouldn't use unreliable websites' information.''Libra rising.com'' is one of them.

cozycat
12-09-2012, 06:50 PM
I disagree.Plus you shouldn't use unreliable websites' information.''Libra rising.com'' is one of them.

Okay.
Where can I find the reliable info on this matter (short of asking those people myself)?
I'm also interested to hear your opinion on this topic...what are some trademark features you can find for a given ascendant?

Melaike
12-09-2012, 11:06 PM
Okay.
Where can I find the reliable info on this matter (short of asking those people myself)?

The most reliable website regarding birthtimes of celebrities is : http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Main_Page


I'm also interested to hear your opinion on this topic...what are some trademark features you can find for a given ascendant?

You can open another thread for this.:smile:

Virgo rising people look innocent like Sophie Marceau,Shannen Doherty and Marion Cotilllard.Also they can be baby faced like Claudia Schiffer(Sun in Virgo),Brigitte Bardot (Moon in virgo).

Capricorn rising people can be fotogenic with symmetrical features with cold and/or serious look. Catherine Deneuve,Monica Bellucci,Carol Bouquet are good examples.

Some Cappies look like goats,Christie Turlington (Sun in Capricorn),Naomi Campbell (Capricorn rising)

Cancer and Scorpio give ''O'' shaped legs,Pisces gives ''X'' shaped legs.

Taurus gives a short neck and when they gain weight(Usually in the upper side of the body)they look really like a ''Toro''.

Scorpios can be prognatic.

Libra and Taurus gives a good flawless skin.

Cancer and Scorpio can give hooked noses.
Leo and Sagittarus can give long and/or big noses

Gemini,Virgo,Sagittarius and Aquarius gives long legs.

Usually Fire and Air signs gives light pigmentation,Water and Earth signs gives dark pigmentation.Among Fire/Air signs Aries is the only one which can give dark pigmentation

Aries can give red hair , Scorpio can give dark red hair.

Aries,Leo,Sagittarius and Aqaurius gives high foreheads,Cancer ,Scorpio,Taurus,Capricorn gives low foreheads.

I'll continue later.......

KaylaTheTaurean
06-03-2013, 03:28 PM
Each sign has their own personal trait that is beautiful.

Aries has the best smile and high cheekbones

Taurus has an earthy beauty to them and puppy dog eyes, they also carry themselves gracefully,has a beautiful complexion and hair which always looks in excellent condition

Gemini have a thin body usually and tall.Big eyes and mouth.


Cancer has big eyes and their eyes are usually lighter colors

Leo has beautiful hair,oval with large eyes

Virgo:the eyes are often soft and very beautiful and a younger appearance of innocence SO CUTE:) probably my favorite sign.


Libra: has a fine bone structure and balanced features

Scorpio:Intense eyes that stare into your soul.


Sagittarius:is physically noticeable because of his/her strong sense of confidence

Capricorn:Earthy beauty with a beautiful smile


Aquarius:There is a distant, dreamy look in the eyes.


pisces:has clear, soft skin, whatever her color,very charming smile.


ALL OF YOU have something beautiful about you :)

Claire19
06-04-2013, 10:22 AM
I noticed that strong Pesces in the chart or strong Neptun, which is a 8th superior of Venus, makes a person very beatiful with expecially beatiful eyes...mystic.
Beatiful is also Libra or a strong Venus.
Otherwise, I don't find Taurus beatiful. They are ruled by Venus, but we can't forget also the Moon in exaltation, which is much more ''particular'', but not really beatiful.
Also a strong Virgo generates beatiful traits, but colder kind of beauty.

Scorpio rising makes a person not so beautiful; or too small, or too fat, etc...but, it gives him/her a great carisma/magnetism. Have you ever falled in love with a person who is ougly but you couldn't understand why he/she is so attractive? :andy:
With Scorpio rising then Mars rules and the condition of that planet lends towars the physical image, same with all the rulers.
Venus is the planet of harmony and balance and if it is well aspected and particularly in the 1st house it gives a pleasant manner and appearance at the very least.

Aries has a muscular appearance, often thick reddish hair and prominent arched eyebrows sometimes with long eyelashs. This is general.

Taurus can have a softer rounder appearance, rather like a calf with big eyes, thick hair and sometimes with a cowlick and full lips. Sensual and earthy but can put on weight with indulgence.

Gemini is taller and slimmer as they often live on their nerves and rush about.. Have long eyes and often with a twinkle and a wide mouth that can be rather thin. this again is the stereotype that is modified by aspects and the ruler.

Cancer has a rounder paler face, with round eyes and can be called "moonface"often with smaller neat features and with pronounced chest and slimmer legs.

Leo typically has the tawny mane, a proud walk and can be lithe and strongly built. I have found that they often have small waists but rather heavier legs in comparison to the torso.

Virgo has a purity, a beautiful smile, is neat and tidy in appearance often no frills and no fuss.

Libra has even features, often dark hair and lighter eyes and an hourglass figure at least when young. They are well proportioned and well balanced.

Scorpio can have deep set rather arresting eyes and tend to be darker rather than fair. Often shorter and thicker set. They often have a sexual magnetism.

Sagittarius can be taller than average with good legs and coltish. A pony tail, often prominent teeth and a loud laugh. Often reddish hair and a gypsy appearance.

Capricorn is darker, can be quite short often and thin and rather melancholy in expression. Often big eyes and long lashes which can save them from being unattractive.

Aquarius is taller angular and can be rather androgynous with wild hair as if it has been electrified. Sometimes the ankle can be strange in some way and they are often unconventional in their dress.

Pisces is rather round and softer and with big gentle eyes and vulnerable look. Often darker with lighter eyes the colour of the ocean. Often below average in height.

These traits will show more in the ascendant or the 1st house.

may28gemini
06-22-2013, 01:37 PM
In my observations, I think the best looking rising signs are in this order: Sagittarius, Leo, Libra, Gemini, Scorpio, Virgo, Aries. As for the rest, they're not really beautiful looking to me. Earth rising (except for Virgo) is the ugliest looking (too plain) and water signs, with the exception of Scorpio, tend to have soft bodies which I think is not beautiful.

Do duads play any role in this?

Like a Leo rising may be "loud" in appearance with big hair, big eyes, bright eyed and bushy tailed but if it's in the Scorpio duad, would the person look more smoldering? Or if someone is dark and mysterious Scorpio rising but say it's in Gemini duad, would that person look more alert rather than smoldering?

Kim Kardashian is Sagittarius rising but in Taurus duad. I've always viewed her to exude Tauruean energy, and her face and body (although she's gotten surgery to look that way) look very Taurean and not a bit like Sagittarius.

The Ram
07-05-2013, 08:00 PM
For woman and looks I generally look to Venus. My favorites are Venus in Libra, Pisces, Taurus, or Cancer.

llama
08-27-2013, 04:58 AM
Come on now, not every person born with a libra ascendant or venus rising is going to be a beauty queen/king. I think it's absolutely ridiculous to make such sweeping generalizations.

I hope I'm not the only one who believes a persons beauty is not defined by their natal chart.

poyi
08-27-2013, 05:29 AM
For woman and looks I generally look to Venus. My favorites are Venus in Libra, Pisces, Taurus, or Cancer.

LOL that is 1/3 of the Zodiac mate:biggrin:

The Ram
08-27-2013, 04:59 PM
Lol well im not attracted to everyone with those venus signs, i just find that generally the women I find most appealing have them. Some have different signs though.

Oh yeah Scorpio venus I like too.

Anahath
09-10-2013, 09:20 PM
I saw Capricorn risings who were very attractive.Also,Leo risings.

But it depends on what you like.For example,I find Cancer risings to be gross...I don't know why,but all the Cancer risings that I've met had something unappealing about them...even if they had good looks,they still had some kind of sloppiness that cancelled the good qualities.

kenbroz
10-02-2013, 02:57 AM
hore!!! it's longe ago!

Evana
10-02-2013, 09:17 AM
Seriously guys it's all genetics lol.

But, if i'm going to play along, I think Aries, Scorpio, Leo & Capricorn rising, well that's according to my own observations.

capleo2scorpio
10-03-2013, 03:34 PM
Me too. I think leo risings are the best looking :tongue:

xboy
10-19-2013, 07:23 AM
hmm..maybe . cause I'm leo rising with aqua moon and aries sun . some girls say I'm very handsome but I somehow think I'm not. I think Scorpio asc looks awesome .

poyi
10-19-2013, 08:06 AM
I met this guy and I was in love with him for 3 years. He had a sun in Libra and Scorpio rising, deep grey eyes, perfect features, extremely masculine and refined.

Yet, he had a bunch of planets in the 12th house, he was fond of astrology and he used to endlessly complain and blame all his life infortunes on his 12th house and never make a positive move in life.

That was my lost years! haha!

Look like all the best of his planets manifested as handsome appearance! 12th house can be good to0 but not easy to break out. Anyhow, it was still good to date a handsome man for 3 years :p

Osian
11-05-2013, 09:47 AM
libras are the most attractive rising sign actually.... or virgos cause they always look a lot younger than what they are..

I'm a libra with virgo rising. I read that it's the most beautiful combination... I won't post a photo of myself lol but I have posed for many photo shoots. :whistling:

Libra sun, virgo rising, scorpio mars & venus = Beauty, young looking & sexuality. Grrrrrr....

poyi
11-05-2013, 09:55 AM
Hmmm, I have Scorpio Sun unfortunately, but do have 1st Venus in Libra, Mars in Virgo 1st house and Virgo rising, Pluto in Scorpio, Mars parallel Pluto. I am no way beautiful enough for professional shooting, but I do admit to be photogenic which is enough.

I am turning 30th in 6 days, can still get concession ticket with my look. Funny that I used to look much older than my age.

dioskouris
11-05-2013, 03:02 PM
Leo rising, if we're going only off looks. Also, Libra if we're going off looks. But Leo is more radiant. I don't believe Scorpio falls into this category. Physically speaking I don't think Scorpio is all that pulchritudinous... rather ordinary. It's just that 'X-factor' - it's grotesque, baroque charisma - that gives the illusion of attractiveness... but not all attractive people are beauty queens/kings (they would be Leo Risings). What makes Scorpio rising attractive is power and what I mentioned above, not physical beauty.

I cee
11-05-2013, 05:10 PM
...answer= every rising sign is beautiful, we are all unique beauties of the universe and beautiful to someone.

Isnt that in itself just amazing, magical, we are all visually different, and look how many there are of us in the world (what is the world population?) anyways its a lot!

I did indeed meet my 'doppelgänger' at my local theatre, everyone around me was saying 'hey look there you are', she did look a lot like me but NOT EXACTLY.

I hate to use the word and I am going off on one (whats new ^^) but aint that AWESOME:w00t:

fullmoonlibra
11-05-2013, 05:21 PM
It depends on how you specify 'best'.
Is it the one with the most dreamy eyes? Look for Pisces rising.
The one who looks girly-girly? Libra rising.
The one who looks hot and masculine? Aries rising
The one who shines and takes all the attention? Leo rising
The one who took your attention because of its mysteriousness?
Scorpio rising
The one who looks totally different from others? Aquarius rising
The one who looks so good because she/he looks so young? Virgo rising
And so on...


It depends on what YOU think is best, and probably that will be your DC sign ;)

may28gemini
11-07-2013, 08:20 AM
Leo rising, if we're going only off looks. Also, Libra if we're going off looks. But Leo is more radiant. I don't believe Scorpio falls into this category. Physically speaking I don't think Scorpio is all that pulchritudinous... rather ordinary. It's just that 'X-factor' - it's grotesque, baroque charisma - that gives the illusion of attractiveness... but not all attractive people are beauty queens/kings (they would be Leo Risings). What makes Scorpio rising attractive is power and what I mentioned above, not physical beauty.

Yes, if we're going off only of physical looks (which is what I thought the topic was about), I would agree with you. Leo rising is bright and shiny and strives to be the center of attention. They're very striking and noticeable and usually with sturdy bodies. Libra rising is pleasant and usually nice looking, but not really head-turners. Their goal when it comes to appearance is to be pleasant looking and not hurt other people's visions but rarely, if ever, does it want to be the center of the attention.

Still, my vote is always for Sagittarius rising- striking, tall, lean, and a devil-may-care attitude and wild looks (Brad Pitt in Snatch is perfect). Second would be Aries rising (like James Dean)- also striking, lean, and devil may care attitude and rebellious looks. Leo rising is the most polished of the Fire risings and they're so proper and formal, which is unlike the other Fire risings. I prefer risings who are not so PC in attitude and wild looking.

dioskouris
11-07-2013, 02:05 PM
Sagittarius can easily be overweight, or just tall, lanky, and goofy looking. Only about half of them really contain physical beauty (and those end up becoming models). I agree with you on aries, but the don't have the Leo radiance. But I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder lol.

Yes, if we're going off only of physical looks (which is what I thought the topic was about), I would agree with you. Leo rising is bright and shiny and strives to be the center of attention. They're very striking and noticeable and usually with sturdy bodies. Libra rising is pleasant and usually nice looking, but not really head-turners. Their goal when it comes to appearance is to be pleasant looking and not hurt other people's visions but rarely, if ever, does it want to be the center of the attention.

Still, my vote is always for Sagittarius rising- striking, tall, lean, and a devil-may-care attitude and wild looks (Brad Pitt in Snatch is perfect). Second would be Aries rising (like James Dean)- also striking, lean, and devil may care attitude and rebellious looks. Leo rising is the most polished of the Fire risings and they're so proper and formal, which is unlike the other Fire risings. I prefer risings who are not so PC in attitude and wild looking.

poyi
11-07-2013, 02:10 PM
I cant stand anyone with personal planets or ascendant in Leo, they really do irritate me.... I thought about why, I think that might be to do with my Virgo ascendant all Leo signs will be in my 12th house. At first I can be friend with them cause part of my 11th cusp is Leo but all the time, never failed, always turned out to be my enemy.

poyi
11-07-2013, 02:16 PM
Another explanation would be to do with my Sun in Scorpio and Scorpio Stellium. Leo sign is my contra antiscia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contra-antiscion

may28gemini
11-07-2013, 03:54 PM
It's funny you mention that you dislike Leo planets probably because it has to do with your 12th house being in Leo. I feel the same way about Virgo as it's my 12th house. I don't hate Virgo rising, as they tend to be well-groomed and decent looking and have a sort of classic element to their looks (which I appreciate)... but I absolutely dislike Virgo Sun. Every person that I find out who has a problem with me, dislikes me (and I return the favor) are always Virgo Sun. They just irk me like crazy. I don't mind Virgo in any other planetary placement... I even like Virgo Venus people. I just cannot stand Virgo Sun!!!

The_Saturnian
11-07-2013, 04:01 PM
Another explanation would be to do with my Sun in Scorpio and Scorpio Stellium. Leo sign is my contra antiscia


I'm surprised about contra-antiscion, because I usually get on quite well with Scorpio Sun and I do find them attractive. Though my x-girlfriends (those that have a Scorpio Sun), mysteriousness sometimes has worried me in the past. On occasions it even terrified the living daylights out of me. LOL

I'm in a calculating mood today :) so just to calculate mine:

Leo Sun @ 4 degrees 55'
30 degrees (i.e. 1st point of 30 degrees) = 29 degrees 60'

So, 29 degrees 60' - 4 degrees 55' = 25 degrees 5' Scorpio.

25 degrees 5' Scorpio would be my contra-antiscion point.

may28gemini
11-07-2013, 04:03 PM
Sagittarius can easily be overweight, or just tall, lanky, and goofy looking. Only about half of them really contain physical beauty (and those end up becoming models). I agree with you on aries, but the don't have the Leo radiance. But I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder lol.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA I haven't met any overweight Sagittarius rising people. But you're actually spot on about them being tall, thin, and lanky and the good looking ones are like models and superstars. The Sag risings that I've met/are friends are tall, thin, lanky, and have been models.


I like the male Sag and Aries rising... kinda wild and adventurous looking. Aries rising both males and females tend to be pretty thin and lanky themselves. The males tend to be thin and if they work on their bodies, they'd be thin and toned which is nice... But you're correct, NONE of the risings can compete with bright, shiny Leo rising. Leo does have that star quality... like Marilyn Monroe and Lana del Rey (both are Gemini Sun) and Jake Gyllenhaal (Sag Sun).

A lot of people think I look like a Leo rising because I have big hair and I'm always smiling or laughing and I'm pretty jolly. But that's just my Libra Jupiter on the Asc being silly. I like being Libra rising... incognito can be a good thing, ya know.

The_Saturnian
11-07-2013, 04:04 PM
It's funny you mention that you dislike Leo planets probably because it has to do with your 12th house being in Leo. I feel the same way about Virgo as it's my 12th house. I don't hate Virgo rising, as they tend to be well-groomed and decent looking and have a sort of classic element to their looks (which I appreciate)... but I absolutely dislike Virgo Sun. Every person that I find out who has a problem with me, dislikes me (and I return the favor) are always Virgo Sun. They just irk me like crazy. I don't mind Virgo in any other planetary placement... I even like Virgo Venus people. I just cannot stand Virgo Sun!!!

I have the first 28 degrees of Gemini in my 12th house, so I'm guessing when determining who we probably wouldn't get on with, we would be considering it in terms of the whole house system which would mean Taurus in my case yes?

may28gemini
11-07-2013, 04:11 PM
Wait... my contra-antiscio is 23 09 Cap. That's weird. I can get along with Capricorn Sun... at least in the most basic social ways. I don't even get bothered by Cap planets. I do have a thing against Virgo Sun.

may28gemini
11-07-2013, 04:12 PM
I have the first 28 degrees of Gemini in my 12th house, so I'm guessing when determining who we probably wouldn't get on with, we would be considering it in terms of the whole house system which would mean Taurus in my case yes?

Yes, I always go by whole signs. So your 12th house is Taurus. How do like or dislike Taurus?

dioskouris
11-07-2013, 04:25 PM
12th house Libra here. I always wondered why I could never get along with Libra sun natives. Out of all of the zodiac, I always found them the most argumentative and rather shallow. Even if they're not actually shallow people, they just have this rather airy superficialness about them gets to me... even though I'm a Gemini sun. It always puzzled me since they are supposed to be my "compatible" sign. I've managed to date or have a romantic liaison with basically every other sign except Libra (and Aquarius - don't know why, that's my 4th house, but they always under being "just friends"). We just can't seem to get along unless we're forced to.

Ironically however, I have a therapist and a mentor who are both Libras. I still find them very annoying sometimes we even argue a little and engage in mind games (or perhaps I'm the one who's being that way because even though they are very old and wise men, they still manage to get on my nerves sometimes lol). But I have learnt a lot from them and they have been the most helpful so far. I suppose they were placed in my life to help me deal with 12th house issues... which when I think of the house, seems about true.

Very interesting.

However when it comes to Libra rising, I have no problem. May not be my cup of tea beauty wise (I like striking people), but otherwise I find them very charming and pleasant, like what I image a Libra sun should be, lol.

Lately, I met a woman who is (a late) Libra with Leo rising. Still find her somewhat grating but her Leo rising is making up for that :p

may28gemini
11-07-2013, 04:31 PM
12th house is the house of self undoing. I think whatever sign is in your 12th is the sign that is your enemy... like the anti-hero of the chart.

The_Saturnian
11-07-2013, 04:41 PM
Yes, I always go by whole signs. So your 12th house is Taurus. How do like or dislike Taurus?

I don't know much about Taurus in person, because I haven't met many and neither have I dated many of them or people who demonstrate Taurean behaviour. So I guess, I'd be biased saying otherwise. I'll have to experiment and draw inference from that.

dioskouris
11-07-2013, 04:45 PM
BWAHAHAHAHAHA I haven't met any overweight Sagittarius rising people. But you're actually spot on about them being tall, thin, and lanky and the good looking ones are like models and superstars. The Sag risings that I've met/are friends are tall, thin, lanky, and have been models.


I like the male Sag and Aries rising... kinda wild and adventurous looking. Aries rising both males and females tend to be pretty thin and lanky themselves. The males tend to be thin and if they work on their bodies, they'd be thin and toned which is nice... But you're correct, NONE of the risings can compete with bright, shiny Leo rising. Leo does have that star quality... like Marilyn Monroe and Lana del Rey (both are Gemini Sun) and Jake Gyllenhaal (Sag Sun).

A lot of people think I look like a Leo rising because I have big hair and I'm always smiling or laughing and I'm pretty jolly. But that's just my Libra Jupiter on the Asc being silly. I like being Libra rising... incognito can be a good thing, ya know.

A few of the Sag rising I know are big and jolly that's why I say that lol. Still, unlike, say, a plus sized cancer or taurus, they are VERY physically active. This one friend loves to go dancing and traveling to many different countries, and go on hiking trips. I'm a wiry Scorpio rising, and he still outpaces me. Some others I know are lanky and goofy as I said, though still attractive (I think of Dick van Dyke). Just that their attractiveness is not what I consider "star quality". You look at a Leo rising and think "wow what a hot guy/girl". Look at a Sag rising and you think basically what you said "devil may care, adventure, looks like someone to have a good time with, fun, etc." But I suppose, as I said, just a matter of opinion: I like radiant people (I have sun in 7th house), they probably balance out my dark presence.
Aries just looks fast and furious to me :p

may28gemini
11-07-2013, 05:45 PM
A few of the Sag rising I know are big and jolly that's why I say that lol. Still, unlike, say, a plus sized cancer or taurus, they are VERY physically active. This one friend loves to go dancing and traveling to many different countries, and go on hiking trips. I'm a wiry Scorpio rising, and he still outpaces me. Some others I know are lanky and goofy as I said, though still attractive (I think of Dick van Dyke). Just that their attractiveness is not what I consider "star quality". You look at a Leo rising and think "wow what a hot guy/girl". Look at a Sag rising and you think basically what you said "devil may care, adventure, looks like someone to have a good time with, fun, etc." But I suppose, as I said, just a matter of opinion: I like radiant people (I have sun in 7th house), they probably balance out my dark presence.
Aries just looks fast and furious to me :p

LOL a plus sized Cancer or Taurus... oh boy... I have met MANY of those in both Sun and Rising. You are onto something there. I'm athletic... I mean, I run, I cycle, swim, I lift weights. I've had an obsession with swimming and biking since I was 5. That's how long I've been into physical sports. And yet, I went on a hike and there were 2 hefty/chunky Taurus, 1 soft looking Cancer, and a chubby Virgo were ALL outpacing me while lil ole me was losing my breath every minute and I was shocked (and so was everyone else) as to why I can't seem to go the same pace!! I hate hikes. I think it's boring. No wonder only big people get into hikes and the physically in shape looking ones go to the gym!!

The ones I seem to get along with best...on everyday social levels, are other Libra rising, no matter what Sun they have. Looks are not drop dead gorgeous but we've got the nice girl/boy next door look going on. We're non-threathening, which is good. They can be Virgo Sun for all I care, but as long as they're Libra rising, their Virgo Sun is hidden and they opt for more Libraness, of which I find to be quite agreeable to me. The ones that I get along with on an in-depth level are always, hands down, Scorpio rising.

I'm never interested in Leo rising people. I just never have been. Sure, I think they look nice, but aside from the exterior "glamour," there's not much to look at or interact with. They're too polished and picture perfect... like dolls. I just never liked anything looking perfect. I like something rebellious and wild looking... a maverick and quite interesting. I'm from LA, more importantly, I grew up in Hollywood. I suppose the Sagittarius and Aries rising I come across are of those of the "model" quality and the Leo rising I encounter are just ho hum. I mean, I am always around models/actors/actresses no matter where I go, whether or not I even know what they've done. I love the gritty, underground kind of look- tattoos, bedhead hair, non-PC attitude, an independent thinker- a rebel.

In whole signs, your Gemini Sun would be in the 6th house. I see that as making more sense as to why you like Leo rising... they look happy and healthy. Sun in 6th is very health conscious. I have Gemini Sun in the 9th house- of which the Sun is in its joy. My position would seem to give me an affinity towards Leos, but I don't care for Leo rising or any Leo planets. They're rather boring to me. I suppose the Sun in its joy could also give me an affinity towards Aries, but ironically, I don't really like Aries planets except for Aries Mars and Aries rising (but that's not a planet).

I have met quite a lot of Scorpio rising people of various Sun signs (most common being Gemini and Aqua) and

I cee
11-07-2013, 06:45 PM
.........mine ! OF COURSE! :biggrin:

dioskouris
11-07-2013, 07:00 PM
I have met quite a lot of Scorpio rising people of various Sun signs (most common being Gemini and Aqua) and

... and what?

You're a little off there, in whole signs my Sun is in 8th house ;)

I understand why you say Leos wouldn't stimulate you much. I feel the same way about their Sun signs... just big egos. In fact I was going to say that Sagittarius seems like the "full package"... they are fun, funny, sporty, adventurous, AND good looking (for the most part). But again, we're not talking about qualities, we're talking about actual physical appearance; just picture each rising sign as mannequins.

I actually love Sag rising people... but they bug me in just two ways: They CAN'T SIT STILL! This is ironic since I am a Gemini and a social butterfly, but when I'm at a party or similar event, I find one corner of a room, and just stand or sit there for the entire evening (until I get up to dance, or say hello to someone, but mostly I just return to that spot, and people know to come find me there to chill because it has become 'my' spot). This also contributes to their spontaneity. I was out with a girl who is a Taurus with Sag rising once. Within a few minutes she wanted to suddenly get up and go on some "adventure", while I just wanted to sit, drink, have a riveting conversation, and listen to some music. Eventually, she asked me where is my spontaneity. I retorted that of course I am (thinking that I'm a Gemini, so I should), before I could finish she pulled me in for a kiss which jolted me lol. It kind of bothered me, but it was nice.

Oh and the other thing that bugs me is their sense of style... of which (unless something else in their chart helps them), they have none. A jeans or shorts, t-shirt, flip-flops or tennis shoes, is not style. This what I love about Leo rising, lol.
My MC is in Leo. If I'm not mistaken that would be reputation, public image, etc. For as long as I can remember, I have always held that honing a proper public image and reputation is extremely important, and for me, doing so would mean knowing how to "shine": dress, speak, carry one's self like royalty. "Life is a show and we are all participants and spectators" I either tweeted or facebooked some years ago.

Since I analyze charts in Placidus my sun in the 7th house ruled by the 10th means that I want to see this in others, and not just myself. I haven't gotten into whole signs, so I don't know how to analyze my Sun for the 8th house. I don't see Leos as "healthy" as you put it. Moon would be in my 6th house, in whole signs (5th for placidus). I do find Cancers rather comforting and having a holistic energy when I think about it. I will have to stop here before I confuse myself trying to interpret a different system lol.

may28gemini
11-07-2013, 07:48 PM
Whoops, I pulled an all nighter and kinda losing steam about an hour ago. I meant, you have Sun in the 8th for whole signs. The "and" part is "and they usually don't look like typical Scorpio rising and look more airy."

I noticed that Sagittarius rising don't have style too. It's like they literally throw on whatever, even from the hamper that smells the least yucky. By nature they're really usually sloppy looking if they don't have a professional stylist pull something together for them. I had an ex who was Sag Sun/Cap Moon/Sag rising... he wasn't as bad as I described typical Sag rising. To be fair to him, he had Virgo Mars so he was meticulous, clean, and well groomed. He was lean and tall standing at 6'2. Even one of my former employers who I keep in touch with still, he's Sag Sun/Aries Moon/Sag rising will wear flip flops 24/7. I never saw him in anything except flip flops. Wait... once I saw him in Rockports and he said it was cold so he couldn't wear his flip flops. He always wears jeans and flip flops as his normal uniform and he strangely hates the corporate suit look...despite having Cap Mars. He is quite handsome and he's also 6'2 and lean...even though he eats junk food. Despite all that silliness, I always like Sag rising for men because when they get dressed up, they look very dashing without even trying.

Also, I am not bothered by Sag rising fidgeting in social settings, however, I've not met any Sag rising that I think are all that impatient and flighty. If anything, I'm the one they tend to look to take charge and usually I'm the fidgety one if I'm bored but if I find someone/something interesting, I stay put. But that's the beauty of having a cardinal rising, I suppose. Also, the majority of those (both men and women) who think that I'm good looking and like me, are Sagittarius rising. They must recognize Jupiter on my AC or something.

Ahhh... your MC is Leo which makes sense why you would place quite a bit of importance on striking/glamourous appearances. My MC is Cancer, so basically, I don't care about showy looks, I want the natural and honest looks- which doesn't necessarily mean I want someone wholesome but I do like honesty. I dislike heavy makeup on women, and I dislike metrosexual men and that's what Leo rising represent to me: overly made up people- all sparkly. I suppose that's why I like Sag rising so much as they have a tendency to be honest all the time and don't have a need to behind showiness.

I guess if we have to think of all the rising signs as mannequins and determine which mannequin is the best looking of all, my vote would go to Libra as I think the mannequin form would be well proportioned and nicely dressed in pleasant pastels for the female and the male would be in a nice 1920s suit.

I think it would be more accurate to think of all rising signs as celebrities and compare those in terms looks. Maybe we can pick 1 of each sex of each rising sign and we take a vote.

Claire19
11-07-2013, 11:01 PM
I'm a libra with virgo rising. I read that it's the most beautiful combination... I won't post a photo of myself lol but I have posed for many photo shoots. :whistling:

Libra sun, virgo rising, scorpio mars & venus = Beauty, young looking & sexuality. Grrrrrr....
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so that statement is rather sweeping.
Libra can be beautiful but the rising sign planet and its aspects will denote the looks. So if Virgo rises then Mercury would be looked at. IF Venus is challenged then the person may not be so attractive or will have bad taste or be over indulgent and cause weight gain.

Astrology is much more complex than saying one sign is more attractive than another.:happy:

The_Saturnian
11-08-2013, 09:50 AM
My MC is in Leo. If I'm not mistaken that would be reputation, public image, etc. For as long as I can remember, I have always held that honing a proper public image and reputation is extremely important, and for me, doing so would mean knowing how to "shine": dress, speak, carry one's self like royalty. "Life is a show and we are all participants and spectators" I either tweeted or facebooked some years ago.

My MC falls in the scope of Aquarius. No wonder I've always had a capricious tendency of wearing the wrong attire for the wrong occasion. I remember as a child I use to wear some rather bizzare clothes. E.g. at the tender age of just 3 I was dressed up with a three piece baby suit a sky blue bow tie for my uncle's wedding day. Bit young to wear bow tie wouldn't you say? My MC has now progressed to 24 degrees Pisces and on the cusp of my 11th house. I can look back and say I become rather distasteful with my clothing post the age of around 8 (when MC moved into Pisces). But now it seems to have picked up again. I'm quite excited about the prospect of the MC going into Aries in a few years time. I'm trying to sit here imagining how I'll carry and present myself in public life.

IF Venus is challenged then the person may not be so attractive

Absolutely. Having a challenged Venus will only reduce Venusian power. I've experienced it first hand. Venus opposite Moon tightly conjunct Uranus, opposite Neptune and inconjunct Saturn.

may28gemini
11-08-2013, 05:31 PM
Absolutely. Having a challenged Venus will only reduce Venusian power. I've experienced it first hand. Venus opposite Moon tightly conjunct Uranus, opposite Neptune and inconjunct Saturn.

Well, having difficult aspects to Venus isn't enough to "damage" it. There are plenty of people who have very strong Venus powers but have severely challenged Venus. I believe that having Venus in one of the angular houses and on an angle will be strong enough to curb the negative effects from difficult aspects.

Angelina Jolie is an example. I do not consider her "beautiful" but she have been determined studies and public that she fits an idealized form of beauty.

Ok, she has detriment Cancer Saturn parallel her Venus (that's bad) and she has Venus square Uranus (exact)... which isn't great either. What negates such bad planetary influences over her Venus is that her Venus is accidentally dignified...and further, it's right on the AC which actually adds tremendous power.

Brigitte Bardot- a major sex icon of the late 50s and early 60s had an unaspected fallen Virgo Venus in the 10th house. However, being that it was placed in an angular house, her Venus was accidentally dignified.

Clinton Soule
11-09-2013, 12:43 AM
Trying to find out her horoscope, anyone have any ideas what her asc. is?:unsure::unsure::unsure:

:leo:or :taurus:(wanton looking glance)???????:whistling:

She is Apollo in the Crab...easy to see...and a aggressive showy Aphrodite in the Twins(she'd be a flirt forever obviously!

She may even have the Delilah:sun::aquarius:(Samson was a Lion:leo:) Complex!:devil:


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She may be the Lion rising, so flamboyant, or the Bull and even the Eagle..but whatever her ascendant she qualifies as one of the earth's rare beautys maybe like Helen of Troy!:unsure:

Melaike
11-09-2013, 12:49 AM
Trying to find out her horoscope, anyone have any ideas what her asc. is?

She seems like a Venus influenced water sign

sethi
11-09-2013, 04:35 AM
jupiter in the first definitely

The_Saturnian
11-09-2013, 05:38 AM
jupiter in the first definitely

Curves in the right places?

sethi
11-09-2013, 09:22 AM
yes........

Bas Astro Service
11-09-2013, 11:15 AM
Trying to find out her horoscope, anyone have any ideas what her asc. is?

18-07-88, 9:42, 53N58, 01W05

asc. :virgo:

poyi
11-09-2013, 11:25 AM
18-07-88, 9:42, 53N58, 01W05

asc. :virgo:

totally wouldn't expect her to be Virgo. May be she has the right planet Venus or Moon in the right signs and dignified to give her such figure.

Jupiter in 4th house dignified can give larger than average breast.

The_Saturnian
11-09-2013, 11:37 AM
yes........

Thought as much.

Bas Astro Service
11-09-2013, 11:45 AM
totally wouldn't expect her to be Virgo. May be she has the right planet Venus or Moon in the right signs and dignified to give her such figure.

Jupiter in 4th house dignified can give larger than average breast.

:moon:<>:mercury:

:moon:(:virgo:) :conjunct:asc. :square: :venus:(:gemini:)

The_Saturnian
11-09-2013, 11:53 AM
18-07-88, 9:42, 53N58, 01W05

asc. :virgo:

Are you able to post her please by any chance? I seem to struggle inputting the coordinates of her birth place. Alternatively could you reveal the location of her birth place please?

Bas Astro Service
11-09-2013, 12:01 PM
Are you able to post her please by any chance? I seem to struggle inputting the coordinates of her birth place. Alternatively could you reveal the location of her birth place please?

http://oi41.tinypic.com/2liybgk.jpg

poyi
11-09-2013, 12:17 PM
Two Broke Girls, Kat Dennings I mentioned about her before in the other thread about indicator of physical beauty. No accurate Birth time, but she would also be likely to have Moon, Mercury in mutual reception, Mercury in Cancer and Moon in Virgo.

Kat Dennings, 13th June 1986, Philadelphia, USA

Mutual reception always means "Exceptional Good", or "Extremely Afflicted" if in fall or detrimental mutual reception.


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may28gemini
11-09-2013, 12:51 PM
When Two Broke Girls was in its first season, Kat Dennings was listed as an 1985 birth. For a long time, LeeLee Sobieski was listed as 1982 birth. Apparently, Lana del Rey's birthday was originally listed as 1985. After awhile, all of their birth year gets set back by 1 year which totally screws up any possible "accurate" readings on them. Not surprisingly, they're all Gemini Sun. Point is, all the birth info on some of the younger stars are sketchy.

As for Karla James, what surprised me is her Aries Mars. Usually Aries Mars is skinny and burns everything off. However, since domicile Mars is hidden in the 8th house, it also hides the typical effects of Aries. I think she's really just a fat chick and she looks disgusting to me. She looks very Taurus and I thought she's be Taurus Rising with Jupiter in the 1st house. However, seeing that she's a Virgo Moon rising makes sense to me. Moon on the AC or Moon in 1st house usually makes it easy for the females to be on the heavier side.

Poyi, I don't think Jupiter in 4th house gives above average size in anything for anyone. I don't even think that's an indicator of someone coming from a big family either. Jupiter in 4th has nothing to do with the person physical attributes, but rather their family/home life and background. 1st house is always about the person's appearances and body, and such.

poyi
11-09-2013, 01:03 PM
In medical astrology 4th house literally rules the chest and the breasts. If you go into the details, you can see each body parts by houses that's how medical astrology works to determine which part of the body had injury or disease and so on. 7th house rules the lower back and the kidney as example. 1st house is the head and face.

I said Jupiter dignified in 4th can give bigger than average size breast. Cause I do have 38DD...

Bas Astro Service
11-09-2013, 01:35 PM
Shall share a little secret ... I know from experience that the 2th degree of :scorpio:
'can physically give an enormous bosom, can make look physically like an elephant." with all respect.

In the example chart :parsfortunae: 2th degree :scorpio: and :moon:<>:mercury:.
In another even more extreme (secret) chart :moon: :sextile: :mercury: closest orb. and 2th degree :scorpio: on IC.

poyi
11-09-2013, 01:41 PM
Shall share a little secret ... I know from experience that the 2th degree of :scorpio:
'can physically give an enormous bosom, can make look physically like an elephant." with all respect.

In the example chart :parsfortunae: 2th degree :scorpio: and :moon:<>:mercury:.
In another even more extreme (secret) chart :moon: :sextile: :mercury: closest orb. and 2th degree :scorpio: on IC.

Very interesting. 2th degrees=2nd Decan?

So what does Moon sextile Mercury mean? The closest major aspect in the chart? Which is directly related to her physical appearance.

I didn't get the 2nd Decan Scorpio on IC bit. Are you talking about the IC Sagittarius>Jupiter Taurus>Venus Gemini>Mercury<>Moon?

dioskouris
11-09-2013, 01:47 PM
2nd* -shudders-

poyi
11-09-2013, 01:58 PM
2nd* -shudders-

lol I have Sun in 2nd Decan of Scorpio, my ex husband was huge man 180cm, 115kg, my father was also 178cm, 90-100kg also. Both big men especially for Chinese ethic background. Myself is not overweight BMI 22 used to be slimmer (BMI 19), but I always have very Western figure, most people thought I was born native in Australia. When I was back in Hong Kong I was taller than many men and often one of the taller one among people, 168cm, not really tall but in Asian standard is on the taller side. So overall, I am nothing like typical Asian, so can be counted as Elephant lol

Bas Astro Service
11-09-2013, 02:08 PM
Very interesting. 2th degrees=2nd Decan?

So what does Moon sextile Mercury mean? The closest major aspect in the chart? Which is directly related to her physical appearance.

I didn't get the 2nd Decan Scorpio on IC bit. Are you talking about the IC Sagittarius>Jupiter Taurus>Venus Gemini>Mercury<>Moon?

Yes poyi,

But striking is the 2nd degree of Scorpio, 2° :scorpio:, on a prominent place in the horoscope. Of course the Moon and Venus play a major role.

poyi
11-09-2013, 02:11 PM
Yep I fully agree with your observations. We seem to share common ideas. :wink:

Zarathu
11-09-2013, 04:37 PM
Gemini.....No chances for any others. All Gemini's know that they look the best. Why would anyone even second guess that??? Nobody else is even in the running.

The_Saturnian
11-10-2013, 03:32 AM
In medical astrology 4th house literally rules the chest and the breasts. If you go into the details, you can see each body parts by houses that's how medical astrology works to determine which part of the body had injury or disease and so on. 7th house rules the lower back and the kidney as example. 1st house is the head and face.

I said Jupiter dignified in 4th can give bigger than average size breast. Cause I do have 38DD...

Something like the list below? I found this interesting correlation of the body parts to their assigned signs and planets from http://www.ask.com/wiki/Medical_astrology.

Aries (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Aries_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - head, face, brain, eyes
Taurus (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Taurus_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - throat, neck, thyroid gland (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Thyroid_gland?qsrc=3044), vocal tract
Gemini (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Gemini_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - arms, lungs, shoulders, hands, nervous system (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Nervous_system?qsrc=3044), brain
Cancer (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Cancer_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - chest, breasts, stomach, alimentary canal (in this case).
Leo (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Leo_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - heart, chest, spine, spinal column, upper back
Virgo (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Virgo_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - digestive system, intestines, spleen (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Spleen?qsrc=3044), nervous system
Libra (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Libra_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - kidneys (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Kidneys?qsrc=3044), skin, lumbar region, buttocks
Scorpio (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Scorpio_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - reproductive system, sexual organs, bowels, excretory system
Sagittarius (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Sagittarius_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - hips, thighs, liver, sciatic nerve (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Sciatic_nerve?qsrc=3044)
Capricorn (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Capricorn_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - knees, joints, skeletal system
Aquarius (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Aquarius_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - ankles, calves, circulatory system
Pisces (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Pisces_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - feet, toes, lymphatic system (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Lymphatic_system?qsrc=3044), adipose tissue (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Adipose_tissue?qsrc=3044)

The planets are also associated with certain portions and functions within the body:

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The anatomical-astrological human



Sun (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Sun?qsrc=3044) - heart, spine, and general vitality
Moon (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Moon?qsrc=3044) - stomach, digestive system, female organs, lymphatic system
Mercury (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Mercury_(planet)?qsrc=3044) - brain, central nervous system, thyroid gland, five senses, hands
Venus (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Venus?qsrc=3044) - throat, kidneys, thymus gland (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Thymus_gland?qsrc=3044), sense of touch, ovaries
Mars (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Mars?qsrc=3044) - muscles, head, adrenal glands (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Adrenal_gland?qsrc=3044), senses of smell and taste
Jupiter (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Jupiter?qsrc=3044) - liver, thighs, feet, growth, pituitary gland (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Pituitary_gland?qsrc=3044)
Saturn (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Saturn?qsrc=3044) - skin, hair, teeth, bones, the body's defenses, spleen
Uranus (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Uranus?qsrc=3044) - parathyroid gland (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Parathyroid_gland?qsrc=3044), neural activity, aura
Neptune (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Neptune?qsrc=3044) - pineal gland (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Pineal_gland?qsrc=3044), psychic healing
Pluto (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Pluto?qsrc=3044) - pancreas (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Pancreas?qsrc=3044), metabolism, elimination

Clinton Soule
11-10-2013, 04:11 AM
Bas Astro Service stated:


Shall share a little secret ... I know from experience that the 2th degree of :scorpio:
'can physically give an enormous bosom, can make look physically like an elephant." with all respect.

In the example chart :parsfortunae: 2th degree :scorpio: and :moon:<>:mercury:.
In another even more extreme (secret) chart :moon: :sextile: :mercury: closest orb. and 2th degree :scorpio: on IC.
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Bas Astro service, I'd be interested as to how you got Karla's data so quicky!

But this is truly amazing, in that I just happened to stumble upon Karla recently as a friend sent me her photos, but when I was her age, 25, still a virgin by my 9th house beliefs, I met a virgo rising while progressed Venus cjt my natal sun; we had my Mars cjt her natal Uranus so most of you understand that aspect in relationships. She became my fi'ance yet we never could get it together to marry, very uranian!:sad::sad::sad::sad:

Well it just so happens Miss Karla's Venus connects strongly to a certain certain planet of mine, and I wonder how with her :jupiter:Jupiter in the 9th she could be involved in such an occupation but her :saturn::conjunct::uranus:Uranus cjt Saturn(lord of 5th) possibly explains this. And Mars on the 8th cusp shouts it loudly as well.:unsure:

We all know that it takes more than one powerful aspect to pull two together for keeps, but Karla's planet hits me hard!:devil::wink:

But I can't quite buy the concepts of Fortuna a 2 degrees gives her those massive bosom development. I can see Moon cjt asc., to a slight degree and her 4th house lord Jupiter in the 9th has a Large bearing on her bustline...but fortuna????:unsure::unsure::unsure:

Fellow Lady astrologers, I hope Karla is NOT bringing about any jealousy :scorpio: issues; it's just the way she is!
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poyi
11-10-2013, 04:17 AM
Part of Fortune is always about the physical body Ascendant, Sun and Moon. Having POF in water sign may give curvy figure to a woman's body or close aspect. You can do more research on that.

Jupiter in 9th, that is her hip/hip curve.

poyi
11-10-2013, 04:19 AM
Something like the list below? I found this interesting correlation of the body parts to their assigned signs and planets from http://www.ask.com/wiki/Medical_astrology.

Aries (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Aries_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - head, face, brain, eyes
Taurus (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Taurus_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - throat, neck, thyroid gland (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Thyroid_gland?qsrc=3044), vocal tract
Gemini (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Gemini_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - arms, lungs, shoulders, hands, nervous system (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Nervous_system?qsrc=3044), brain
Cancer (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Cancer_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - chest, breasts, stomach, alimentary canal (in this case).
Leo (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Leo_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - heart, chest, spine, spinal column, upper back
Virgo (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Virgo_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - digestive system, intestines, spleen (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Spleen?qsrc=3044), nervous system
Libra (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Libra_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - kidneys (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Kidneys?qsrc=3044), skin, lumbar region, buttocks
Scorpio (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Scorpio_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - reproductive system, sexual organs, bowels, excretory system
Sagittarius (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Sagittarius_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - hips, thighs, liver, sciatic nerve (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Sciatic_nerve?qsrc=3044)
Capricorn (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Capricorn_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - knees, joints, skeletal system
Aquarius (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Aquarius_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - ankles, calves, circulatory system
Pisces (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Pisces_(astrology)?qsrc=3044) - feet, toes, lymphatic system (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Lymphatic_system?qsrc=3044), adipose tissue (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Adipose_tissue?qsrc=3044)

The planets are also associated with certain portions and functions within the body:
The anatomical-astrological human



Sun (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Sun?qsrc=3044) - heart, spine, and general vitality
Moon (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Moon?qsrc=3044) - stomach, digestive system, female organs, lymphatic system
Mercury (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Mercury_(planet)?qsrc=3044) - brain, central nervous system, thyroid gland, five senses, hands
Venus (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Venus?qsrc=3044) - throat, kidneys, thymus gland (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Thymus_gland?qsrc=3044), sense of touch, ovaries
Mars (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Mars?qsrc=3044) - muscles, head, adrenal glands (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Adrenal_gland?qsrc=3044), senses of smell and taste
Jupiter (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Jupiter?qsrc=3044) - liver, thighs, feet, growth, pituitary gland (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Pituitary_gland?qsrc=3044)
Saturn (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Saturn?qsrc=3044) - skin, hair, teeth, bones, the body's defenses, spleen
Uranus (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Uranus?qsrc=3044) - parathyroid gland (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Parathyroid_gland?qsrc=3044), neural activity, aura
Neptune (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Neptune?qsrc=3044) - pineal gland (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Pineal_gland?qsrc=3044), psychic healing
Pluto (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Pluto?qsrc=3044) - pancreas (http://www.ask.com/wiki/Pancreas?qsrc=3044), metabolism, elimination



Exactly, my point was from medical astrology. 4th house the natural home of Cancer, logically from the ascendant the head/face down, Taurus the neck/throat etc you can literally count the body part, 4th/IC is the Breast, Chest.

Clinton Soule
11-10-2013, 04:50 AM
Something for you ladies:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-10lYTud3RCE/UEkLMWbxTRI/AAAAAAAADxs/sXZ1PnVh9iQ/s1600/clint-walker-cheyenne.jpg

http://www.astro.com/imwiki/adb/nat/I051/I051646.EFt0ap_Tgjgfp5ycorAVRg.c2atw.250.jpg



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Note, Mercury lord of the asc., in the 9th along with Sol and Luna, the 9th corresponds to sag according to what I understand from William F. Lilly and look at his size, 6 foot six inches, 225 lbs to 275 in some roles in his career.:rightful:

Normally we associate Virgo with timidity and quite small in stature but those 9th house planets contradict that.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-toN_OZ_SDdM/TYJbs4EHF1I/AAAAAAAAISg/i1N0cxE7H0M/s1600/SM08e.jpg
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poyi
11-10-2013, 05:15 AM
I also have Virgo ascendant, I only have very small hands and feet AC opposes to Pisces for my height. My Mercury is in 3rd house Scorpio, sextile/mutual reception to 1st Virgo Mars, also sextile 5th Moon in Capricorn, Moon exalts Mars by trine/sign, Moon also trine 1st Venus in Libra. I would say also Mercury is dignifted by sign through mutual reception and house position. I am not small/short for my ethic group.

To assess body structure based on signs and elements. From A Handbook of Medical Astrology by Jane Ridder-Patrick, I summarized:

Earth Sign Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn, body type is hardy and possesses great stamina. When it is excess, all the body tissues become denser. The skin thickens to a leather like consistency and there is tendency to increase body etc. Earth rules all hard and structural, such as skin, bones, teeth, nails, cartilage, and muscle tendons.

Water are smooth, plump, soft, and slow in movement, flowing and graceful, the hair is thick and plentiful, the eyes are soft and melting. Excess water can lead to laziness, overweight, strong sex drive, the body temperature is low.

For this man above, I think mainly because his luminaries and ascendant lord in the 9th, Fire element house while ascendant in Earth sign. For Miss Karla obvious excess water element for sure, see her luminaries, POF, NN and number of planets in water houses/signs.

Clinton Soule
11-10-2013, 05:55 AM
Poyi stated:

For this man above, I think mainly because his luminaries and ascendant lord in the 9th, Fire element house while ascendant in Earth sign. For Miss Karla obvious excess water element for sure, see her luminaries, POF, NN and number of planets in water houses/sign

Yes, I find often planets in the 9th, Tall, Sporty, freedom oriented!


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JiS8M4pLpoI/ToSlTdNqmeI/AAAAAAAAL3s/3P5uzOcbtpc/s1600/Tub04e.jpg http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/MMPH/17488.jpg


poyi:

Earth Sign Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn, body type is hardy and possesses great stamina. When it is excess, all the body tissues become denser. The skin thickens to a leather like consistency and there is tendency to increase body etc. Earth rules all hard and structural, such as skin, bones, teeth, nails, cartilage, and muscle tendons

Seems to fit rising and Lord of asc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWXGycR9D28 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWXGycR9D28)


Poyi:

Water are smooth, plump, soft, and slow in movement, flowing and graceful, the hair is thick and plentiful, the eyes are soft and melting. Excess water can lead to laziness, overweight, strong sex drive, the body temperature is low.


She is young and as age advances she will have the fight to keep her weight down as this starlet had similar woes:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/attachment.php?attachmentid=147286&stc=1&d=1240010998 http://www.musicnewsnashville.com/archives/photos/2006/dukefest/100_8113.jpg

The above is the star from Dukes of Hazard, playing Daisey Duke; note nobody keeps their figure forever!:sad:
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poyi
11-10-2013, 06:13 AM
Not really, genetically Asian are better off lol :biggrin: You don't see Asian women let go of themselves that much. NO WAY!

may28gemini
11-10-2013, 02:54 PM
How would Water POF give a female curvier figure than any other elemental POF?

Having a lot of Water in a female chart doesn't mean she'd be curvy. I've seen a lot of Water in female charts and they aren't curvy but can be rather fleshy and bloated OR can be quite straight. Look at Karen Carpenter. Cancer rising, Pisces Sun near the MC, and 5 planets in "Water houses" (4th and 8th), although I don't believe in houses having elements.
http://astrotheme.com/chart/Dmy0JHS6HQMYL000ZQNjZQNj.png


Another thing, even when well shaped and thin women are photographed, their picture gets heavily edited, so every picture Karla James is in has been totally photo edited. I'm not saying her boobs are fake, the size of it may be natural. But her body is proportionately WRONG in the natural sense- she does not have a flat, smooth stomach and her body is all over tanned when she's a pasty white British chick? HAHAHAAHA

Since she's in "public" and like any other female that's had a lot of exposure, her published stats are completely fake. It lists that her weight is 120 something to 130 pounds and her bra size is 30 H or J or K. THOSE ARE COMPLETE LIES!!! She's going to be at least around 200lbs (c'mon, be REALISTIC). She probably does have some insane cup size but the back band is definitely NOT 30. Her back is big and she has rolls of fat in the back which would not give her a 30 band, but more accurately, around 42, maybe 44. Katy Perry is 32D and weighs 130lbs and her body is tiny.

poyi
11-10-2013, 03:13 PM
She had an exact conjunction of Uranus Rx at Asc in Cancer it did the reverse and in very odd way. Second reason would be Sun is the ruler of Leo Moon. Sun is opposed to Saturn Rx. Her severe anorexic problem came from her depression and she suicided. Her moon is severely afflicted by her Pluto conjunction in 3rd house her mind. Also look at the Jupiter mercury conjunction and opposition to moon Pluto again her mental illness. Ruler of Venus her value for self and physical beautiy was also afflicted in 8th directly ruled by Uranus Rx in cancer. Cancer is the sign of comfort and foods. I can write further abou her natal promises and why she suffered and died that way.

may28gemini
11-10-2013, 03:33 PM
We're talking about appearances, not why someone committed suicide. You did mention she has Uranus in the 1st house which actually makes a person thin and that's more likely the case. However, earlier you mentioned about having a lot of water signs/or in water houses and that adds to curvy figure. Well, Karen Carpenter does have a lot of planets in water houses (again, I don't think houses have elements) and yet she was rail thin.

Another example would be Chloe Sevigny who has 6/10 planets in water, water sign rising and she's also rail thin.
http://astrotheme.com/chart/n0cAHwIMFxMlpRb1ZQNjZQNj.png

poyi
11-10-2013, 03:41 PM
When you look at the ascendant or a planet you will always have to look at the final dispositor cause the final dispositor in a chart will always have the final say as the actual boss telling what the rest of the planets can do or not to do. A person appearance is a product and result of physical and mental health and of course his or her food consumption. It is impossible to ask an anorexic to be curvy and in her case this extreme water element off balance manifested in her mental state instead of manifesting physically as curves cause she hate it and by all mean eliminated this natural occurrence.

may28gemini
11-10-2013, 04:34 PM
When you look at the ascendant or a planet you will always have to look at the final dispositor cause the final dispositor in a chart will always have the final say as the actual boss telling what the rest of the planets can do or not to do. A person appearance is a product and result of physical and mental health and of course his or her food consumption. It is impossible to ask an anorexic to be curvy and in her case this extreme water element off balance manifested in her mental state instead of manifesting physically as curves cause she hate it and by all mean eliminated this natural occurrence.

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA yeah good point!

Karen Carpenter's rising final depositor would be Saturn or Mercury? Either way, both those planets HATE fleshiness.

As for Chloe... her final Asc depositor is Mars. Mars doesn't want to have bulk or extra weight since he cannot function optimally if he's weighed down by his own body so I can see why she stays so thin.

I'm just not convinced that water dominant charts gives curvy females. If I saw Karla's chart without seeing her pics, I would have said point blank, "this is a fat chick." Upon seeing her pictures, I know that I'm right.

The_Saturnian
11-10-2013, 04:48 PM
How would Water POF give a female curvier figure than any other elemental POF?

Having a lot of Water in a female chart doesn't mean she'd be curvy. I've seen a lot of Water in female charts and they aren't curvy but can be rather fleshy and bloated OR can be quite straight. Look at Karen Carpenter. Cancer rising, Pisces Sun near the MC, and 5 planets in "Water houses" (4th and 8th), although I don't believe in houses having elements.
http://astrotheme.com/chart/Dmy0JHS6HQMYL000ZQNjZQNj.png


Another thing, even when well shaped and thin women are photographed, their picture gets heavily edited, so every picture Karla James is in has been totally photo edited. I'm not saying her boobs are fake, the size of it may be natural. But her body is proportionately WRONG in the natural sense- she does not have a flat, smooth stomach and her body is all over tanned when she's a pasty white British chick? HAHAHAAHA

Since she's in "public" and like any other female that's had a lot of exposure, her published stats are completely fake. It lists that her weight is 120 something to 130 pounds and her bra size is 30 H or J or K. THOSE ARE COMPLETE LIES!!! She's going to be at least around 200lbs (c'mon, be REALISTIC). She probably does have some insane cup size but the back band is definitely NOT 30. Her back is big and she has rolls of fat in the back which would not give her a 30 band, but more accurately, around 42, maybe 44. Katy Perry is 32D and weighs 130lbs and her body is tiny.

As soon as I saw this chart, I :lol: because of her Uranus exactly conjunct her Ascendant. The thought of being born with this placement tickled me. Gosh, she must have been a very unique indeed. I've just read from Wikipedia (unless it's a different Karen Carpenter), that she was an ace drummer of '70s.

poyi
11-10-2013, 05:01 PM
I like her songs very much even I was born after her time. She had this very deep, calming but saden tone in her voice. I think in medical astrology Venus, Taurus and 2nd house govern larynx, voice so deepness could have been the condition of theses planet/sign/house they are at. Mercury and Jupiter and few other points in the chart would explain her talent in writing songs. Same configurations manifest in many ways. Her chart is AA so worth studying.

Clinton Soule
11-10-2013, 06:16 PM
poyi stated:


In medical astrology 4th house literally rules the chest and the breasts. If you go into the details, you can see each body parts by houses that's how medical astrology works to determine which part of the body had injury or disease and so on. 7th house rules the lower back and the kidney as example. 1st house is the head and face.

I said Jupiter dignified in 4th can give bigger than average size breast. Cause I do have 38DD...


Yes William F. Lilly wrote extensively about the houses and signs describing the body for both medical reasons and to impress his clients of his abilities when they wrote him letters while he had never met them!

Years ago I dated a gal I'll never forget who was going through a divorce and soooooo womanly, she had Apollo:sun::libra: with the Ram :aries: rising, Luna:moon::cancer: in 4H; naturally she was larger than most women with the Moon in the 4th and Cancer. And she could be such a teaser, I'd take her swimming up at the lake and she'd try to tempt me by intentionally changing in front of me:devil::happy:. Luckily my 9th is very strong for when I learned of her husband and her's religious denomination, they were both Christians, so I having Not committed that sin with her, I got the two of them back together.

He, her husband, having Sol(sun) in Cancer, had been undergoing getting over his homosexual love affair with Johnny Walker, Jim Beam, Budweiser, Bud Light, etc.,
http://blog.nola.com/brettanderson/2008/03/large_whiskey%20bottles.jpg

when he moved back in with her they invited me over to their house and after dinner he and I sat out in the jacuzzi and he humbly thanked me for not violating his marriage. For those whom don't know Cancer has troubles with alcohol and cancer males typically love:love: big bosomed women, and she was his, not mine! This is WHY I got them back together and didn't cross that line::innocent:

"Mark 10 New International Version (NIV)
2 Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?”
3 “What did Moses command you?” he replied.
4 They said, “Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away.”
5 “It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law,” Jesus replied. 6 “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’[a (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+10&version=NIV#fen-NIV-24595a)] 7 ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,[b (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+10&version=NIV#fen-NIV-24596b)] 8 and the two will become one flesh.’[c (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+10&version=NIV#fen-NIV-24597c)] So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
10 When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this. 11 He answered, “Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. 12 And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery.”:rightful::innocent::rightful::innocent:

Poyi, as an Asian extraction genetic type woman what astrological factors gave you those womanly curves as you know it's Not so typical in most of the orient to my understanding?:biggrin:

[deleted overly sexualized picture against forum rules - Moderator]

Yes Enquiring minds wish to know!:wink:

may28gemini
11-12-2013, 07:57 PM
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It's called a skilled plastic surgeon.

may28gemini
11-12-2013, 08:03 PM
As soon as I saw this chart, I :lol: because of her Uranus exactly conjunct her Ascendant. The thought of being born with this placement tickled me. Gosh, she must have been a very unique indeed. I've just read from Wikipedia (unless it's a different Karen Carpenter), that she was an ace drummer of '70s.

Yes indeed. And her Uranus is in critical degree of 0 and in a cardinal sign. Heh. That's a very strong but volatile energy. Those born with Uranus on the AC are quite electric (for better or worse) and always very unique and must march to their own beat. Of course, that's exactly what she did with her songs. But she was not happy about her looks and committed suicide (suddenly).

Love2Know
11-12-2013, 10:41 PM
Whatever he has but he looks too perfect, Justin Clynes I believe?
Also my husband and myself - Leo risingers <3 hehehehe..ehehhehehehe
This thread started in 2007 wow.

may28gemini
11-12-2013, 11:38 PM
Ummm...dang he does look perfect. But I detect some gayness, and when I say some, I mean a LOT. I swear, Fire sign rising men are just too hot to handle!

The_Saturnian
11-13-2013, 01:01 AM
But she was not happy about her looks and committed suicide (suddenly).


Very Uranian indeed! Especially since it was on the Ascendant plane a possibility of 12th house influence too which would may well have explained the sudden committing of suicide.

Love2Know
11-13-2013, 02:41 AM
Ummm...dang he does look perfect. But I detect some gayness, and when I say some, I mean a LOT. I swear, Fire sign rising men are just too hot to handle!

Yeah I kinda meant gay by "too perfect" lol that is usually the case. I have not consciously known any fire rising men besides my brother and husband hmm now I am trying to figure it out. Scorpio rising and libra rising are hotties I believe, aqua rising I know 3 women for a fact have it and are beautiful I love all 3 of them. They make me seem a bit less insane, I can almost come off normal around them, (not really).

Clinton Soule
11-14-2013, 02:49 AM
Here is a curve ball for all of you as Charles Manson must have had both mind control and strong sexual magnetism in what took place with so many::devil:

http://images.dailyexpress.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/manson-420175.jpg

http://futureadvocate2.tripod.com/MYST/Manson2.JPG

I just know someone is going to comment the strength of his attract came from Venus cjt sun!

But note Venus is COMBUST despite being in the 7th:

See what Tom states about Manson's Venus:

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/gl/geniture.html (http://www.skyscript.co.uk/gl/geniture.html)

Why am I bringing up this true renegade?:unsure:

He had women who adored him for all the wrong reasons!:sad:

poyi
11-14-2013, 05:14 AM
Wow didn't know this man until I google his name.

Taurus ascendant, Venus is in detriment and in combustion. Venus rules 1st and 6th.

Health, Mental illness, ascendant, 1st, 6th, 3rd, 9th, 8th, 12th, POF

1st house Taurus>Venus combusted in Scorpio>Pluto in Cancer>Moon>Uranus in 12th Aries>Mars in Virgo>Mercury in Scorpio>Pluto in Cancer>Moon>Uranus 12th again.

6th house as above begining from Virgo>Mercury in Scorpio>Pluto in Cancer>Moon>Uranus 12th

3rd house Gemini>Mercury in Scorpio>Pluto in Cancer>Moon>Uranus 12th

8th & 9th house, Jupiter in Scorpio>Pluto in Cancer>Moon>Uranus in 12th Aries>Mars in Virgo>Mercury in Scorpio>Pluto in Cancer>Moon>Uranus 12th again.

12th house Pisces>Neptune in Virgo>Mercury in Scorpio>Pluto in Cancer>Moon>Uranus 12th

By traditional mean, Saturn in Aquarius is the only one in his own full rulership also placed in 11th house. Simple, quincunx POF in 3rd house close to IC, private life, one of the hidden houses. Saturn rules the Moon, and square the Sun two luminaries, also square Venus the ascendant ruler. 11th house the group, community, mass of people.

Saturn in Aquarius 21 degrees 45 mins, should check if any midpoint/transit or progression hit the antisicia at 8 degrees 15 Scoprio, which is most likely the progressed Jupiter. Progressed Mercury would hit this antisicia at much younger age. When Jupiter progressed to this antisicia can also check the location of Sun and Venus if they were at Sagittarius.

Love2Know
11-14-2013, 02:47 PM
Yet he manages to appear quite vile to me both physically and mentally.