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11-06-2011, 06:43 PM
Was my dream Friday morning symbolic of what is to come?
Need help with this one. Have never read a mystical horary before.
I am jupiter retrograde, in taurus, in the 4th house.
The moon is void, but in PISCES. The last aspect the moon made was to trine sun in scorpio in 11th.
The next aspect the moon makes after changing signs is to trine mercury(the ruler of the 9th) in sag.
Mercury is the ruler of the 9th house cusp(for dreams). Mercury is conjunct venus and in the same sign as the north node.
mercury and jupiter in a seperating inconjunction.
11-08-2011, 09:07 AM
(Following is not in accordance with standard horary practice and uses whole sign house format)
I'll estimate this by using the Lot of Truth and Falsity (using the 9th house cusp as ascendant in the formula because of relation of 9th house to "dreaming true")
-LOTF falls @ 4 Aries (I rounded off Moon's position-29Pisces49-to 0 Aries in the calculation)
-Sun flows toward the LOTF = + testimony for true
-querent's significator, Jupiter, retrogrades back toward the LOTF = + testimony
-LOTF is in the Egyptian term of Jupiter (querent's significator) = + testimony
-Mars, dispositor of the LOTF, is posited in the querent's whole sign 9th house (dreams, prophecy, truth, etc) = + testimony
-Mars is also disposited by the Sun, further + testimony for this being a case of dreaming true
In my opinion, yes this dream is "true" and has prophetic qualities...
11-10-2011, 04:24 PM
Here is my take on this for what it's worth:
The Moon is void. Even though it is in Pisces, for something to be prophetic then something has to happen. The Moon cannot make anything happen in this chart because she cannot connect with anything in this chart.
Also, the Asc is late, which is a consideration and late ascendants are, well...late...it already over. And so it is; you had the dream, it is over. Also an indication nothing will come of this.
The ruler of the house of dreams (the 9th) is Mercury. Mercury cannot aspect anything in this chart and is fruitlessly chasing Venus, which he cannot reach before he turns retrograde. In short, Mercury cannot connect with anything to make this dream a reality or bring it anywhere or to anyone to make it possible. He has no connections to do so.
11-11-2011, 02:22 AM
(Following is my opinion based on my understanding of the "Ankara" horary tradition)
In whole sign, the Sun is lord of the House of Dreams (9th), and the Sun is applying to perfect a non-Ptolemaic aspect (a semi-sextile) to the Lucky Strike NN, and is also applying to perfect an aspect (opposition) to the Part of Fortune, meaning (to me at least) that the Sun-as lord of the 9th-connects (by aspect) with significant chart elements and therefore can make 9th house matters (the dream) happen/manifest...
11-11-2011, 07:59 AM
Depending on the dream, why would we want it to manifest so badly?
Speaking of which, what was your dream about, if I may inquire?
11-11-2011, 05:17 PM
Thank you both.
There were three components....
one...a man and me. He does the three things I would need him to do for me to be romantic with him.
two....In real life I have an old friend that I was estranged from who I recently contacted to make a peaceful gesture. In the dream she calls me to talk.
Three...an older home that I am working on. This could be a future house or representative of the one I am already living in. The dream took place at my place, but it was not the place I currently have or anywhere I have actually been.
This dream felt different. He looked exactly as he does in real life. His words were very real, not dream like. What I mean by that is he didn't say what I would dream/fantasize him saying. What he said was very logical and straightforward. Even in the dream I was thinking rationally and analyzing what was taking place. I felt like I do when awake.
This was the second dream I had with him in it. Since then I have had a third dream. All three I have felt like an awake me, not a dream me. I thought rationally. All three I have woken up from thinking this was not just a dream. He is showing me things.
I have also had two waking visions of this man. The first one came true, exactly. The second one was after the third dream.
Even if this dream doesn't come true, I feel like I saw how he thinks more clearly. The words he spoke, I don't know if he would actually ever say them even if he thought them, but I think they were very aligned with how he thinks. I have better understanding now.
Currently....Neptune opposite my venus. chiron opposite my venus. Mars in my 12th house.
Thank you again. I will keep you posted if anything happens. If it does it won't be for awhile.
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