Could you be an exorcist?

[filly]

Hi guys! Thought it would be a good thread to start on, since I've always been fascinated/freaked with the Exorcism practice. I've watched all movies I guess! :eek:

I got some DOB's of publically know exorcists from wiki on this Link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exorcists

I chose to draw 5 charts from this list to analise what they have in common and tried to get the ones with bigger age gaps in betwin, a girl who's been possessed and became an exorcist, the late Pope as well (didn't know before that he had preformed exorcism!), an Orthodox...but mostly are Catholic coz some dates are not complete or accurate, specially on the youngest exorcists.

ps;Don't have hour of birth so set them all for Noon. Shame we cant check houses and angles ;-(
I included some unchecked Asteroids just for fun:

666- Desdemona
Lucifer, Angel, Devine,Devota

Aspects that got me right away was:

The Sun is never alone- execpt in 1 of the charts in which the Sun is a Singleton in Air ( mostly air/ earth-Dogmatic)
Stelliums rule or many spread conjunctions
There's ALWAYS at least a conjunction or stellium with an important Star: Caput Algol wins!(I belive this the most important aspect of all-Fixed Stars)
Pluto /Lilith(this girl is in all!!)
Neptune always conjunct, if not with the stellium either the moon or jupiter
Swift Mercury- Exorcism requires quick words and good memory I think
Uranus- bolts from heaven??

It seems it was very popular to be an exorcist around the 1920's, is there a generational Aspect that you'd identify with it?

Asteroids add detail...

So what you think? Could you be an Exorcist? :devil:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?clang=e&rs=0&adl=19%2C15%2C136199%2C23%2C7066%2C19%2C19%2C19%2C 19%2C19%2C19%2C19%2C19%2C19&add=19&node=-Yn&ast=666%2C1930%2C3561%2C1328%2C11911%2C&gm=a1&btyp=2&sday=10&syr=2011&asp=1&lang=e&zod=&fix=1&aspc=1&orbp=50&mth=ast&cid=i0qfileHm0UTQ-u1267846421&hsy=0&smon=9&nhor=35&go.x=12&go.y=9&go=Go

[Rebel Uranian]

Almost. My Mercury is too slow.

[Choe]

filly,why don't you use this site http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Special:Search?search=exorcist&go=Go ?

It's an astro.com people data base.

[piercethevale]

It's a very tricky snd dangerous practice. You might wish to notice that the Catholics always have at least 2 priests there in the attempt. I figure the one has to watch out for the others back in the rite.
I've mentioned a woman I know, that I refer to as Miss X, in some other threads and in the book I wrote that gave me any of the REAL first hand knowledge of the subject that I do possess., which I know to be less than everything there IS to know on the subject and certainly less than one OUGHT to know for any confidence in even attempting it.
he did two on her own in the early 90s and ended up with a lot of something 'not altogether right' clinging to her that wasn't there before.
In a reading I had with my Clairvoyant friend and spiritual confidante, Clarisse, I asked C. to tel me what she could about the cause of certain personality disorders she was always exhibiting. These included [but weren't just limited to ...] some of the symptoms of those that can be diagnosed as bi-polar, vast swings of mood, as close to as 'Jekyll and Hyde' as I've ver seen from woman.
Clarisse,not knowing about Miss Xs' prior activities [before my meeting Her] and only of her present ones as from the time she had met me...of which present knowledge Clarisse know she knew as to my having asked abut Miss X a few times in the couple of years prior [and a past life reading for which I requested as to my suspicions about Her as to confirm those...and any conclusions or assumptions I had come to that were either tentative and permanent -more or Less.
The first thing Clarisse ever said about Miss X...[and when 'C'. doe her 'seeing thing' and what I hear on my end of the telephone...it sounds as if shes got some TV screen or Ham radio and is trying to and finally gets 'the signal'] is, "I'm seeing two people here." and with a note of some surprise in her voice...and I wasn't surprised...just confirmed...justified [and Miss X has no knowledge of this as she is in some other town or part of the State...which doesn't apparently matter to Clarisse and has been demonstrated to me that she does have a bit of an edge on the Clairvoyant she swears to being not in the same league as ..Edgar Cayce, as He would always have to know where the subject was geographically and seemed to be actually there and seemed to be using some OB but fully cognizant and 'virtually conscious'..although physically in trance.
Clarisse, on the other hand, I believe receives symbols and images and is graced with the assistance of 'Guides' as she calls them. C misses on questions pertaining to the future of folks on occasions but I've yet to see/hear Clarisse get it wrong about anyone of the past and or right up to the present.
Miss X had told me about the two exorcisms she had preformed and as I had seen demonstration of what abilities of 'metaphysical nature', of which she had and did show and of which were done as smoothly and well as anyone that does nonchalantly and spontaneously. [for example]: One exorcism was done for the organizer/promoter of the largest 'Raves, on the coast...he had literally had something entity like and evil possessing him ...and it was most likely something not natural to this realm...and it left him...but I believe it is what was now clinging to Her....I could ramble on..and on...but I'l shut up here a post her Chart...and you all can get a good idea of what she is and what she has got..what kinda mojo and how powerful.

Miss Xs' natal chart:

[Imitation_Scorpion]

Notice 4/5 charts you posted have a fire sign on the ASC and a water 8th house?

I have a loaded 8th house stellium, and I am ordained and the leader of a magical group. I traffic in demons and angels all the time, as well as high ceremonial magic.

I'd consider my self more of a satanist then anything. (The true lavian sense not the anti-christian)


To be an exorcist one would need a well aspected jupiter to say the least.

Mercury not so much for quick words, as most "Exorcisms" and magic is spontaneous and the general outline doesn't change.

[filly]

Hi Piercethevale!

Thanks for your input! It's not everday that we get accurate birth data to further this studies...:)

Yes, very powerful chart though it's not as extremist as the others.
I'm getting more and more convinced on the fixed Stars part in this as follows:

Aldebaran conjunct Mars;
Algol conjunct Moon/MC~ SN not too far
Regulus conjunct Pluto/ASC

Not to mention the square between Algol/Moon and Regulus/Pluto...Wow that's a lot of energy at the MC/ASC axis!

The NN is at the accursed degree of Scorpio? John Paul II has this as well.

The Sun is conjunct with Venus- as I mentioned above the Sun seems to be conjunct all the times or it's a singleton.

In this case we can take account of houses but still no charts to compare it against...;(

It's gonna be hard to find the Exorcist aspect! lol
Anything I'm missing?

[Love2Know]

omg I am not going to sleep tonight.

[filly]

Notice 4/5 charts you posted have a fire sign on the ASC and a water 8th house?

Unfortunatly we can't rely on the hour of birth, I set them all for noon.

I have a loaded 8th house stellium, and I am ordained and the leader of a magical group. I traffic in demons and angels all the time, as well as high ceremonial magic.

Do you mean that this beings can pass through you? Coz There's a difference I think and as you being very knowledged about it could correct me at this:
I was involved with this spiritual medium as a child and though I've always been on the side, I got a certain perception of things.
One of them is that some of us born with our "safe"locked (a term used to say spirits can't get in us or possess us) and if not one can go through a specific ritual in order to have it locked as a protection. I've been told that mine is open and that I have 'current'. I believe that it makes me an easy target for spirits.
I don't play with this things for it scares me nor I have the knowledge.

So shouldn't an exorcist be 'locked' against this things and at the same time have the strength to spell of the demons?

It should be different from a spiritual medium which recieves them in an out (trafic as you say?)
Can you in this case be able to spell them out your body or somebody elses?

Coz this is a very dangerous activity, in the case of exorcism you want to spell the demon from where it came from, not to carry it with you...
Does this make sense?:crying:

I'd consider my self more of a satanist then anything. (The true lavian sense not the anti-christian)


To be an exorcist one would need a well aspected jupiter to say the least.

Most of the charts above have hard aspects to Jupiter.
2 of them only have Jupiter making a quincunx aspect to the Sun stellium near the fixed star...

Mercury not so much for quick words, as most "Exorcisms" and magic is spontaneous and the general outline doesn't change.

yeah, you may be right hear, though one must have to rely on a good memory and stable mental state at least. I've seen some Mercury in Taurus. I suppose that this priests make the ritual in latin not their own language...
Depends in what kind of Order you are...

Is it possible if you could post your chart? I'm specially interested if you have any prominent fixed stars. I bet you have! :D

Cheers for your post!

[filly]

Almost. My Mercury is too slow.

Lol...I was just speculating! It comes out it can be a good thing, some have Mer in Taurus which is not really swift huh? but it's methodic, when it learns never forgets, won't drible the words, carries strength or purpose...
From the top of my head I think your chart lacks fixed stars and mine is too scattered! Could nearly get away to fit in if only my Sun/Merc conjunction was closer! :D

Ps: Was without internet for a while and I'm trying to keep up. :)

[filly]

omg I am not going to sleep tonight.

Sorry...:D