Did he keep the buisness card?

[wintersprite1]

Back in June, I sent a condolence card to a friend (the love of my life:o ). His son had died in a very violent and well publicized event. I spoke with him in July and he told me he hadn't picked up my card yet. (It was sent to the home where the death occured.... I suspect he was avoiding going there). With the card I included a buisness card with different numbers and emails that he could get a hold of me. My question is.... Did he keep the buisness card?

With Aries on the Asc, my signifier would be Mars. Mars is found conjuct Mercury (communication) in the eighth. The Moon is in the 7th house... I am not sure what that would mean....but, I think I like it :D Now, what I am not sure about is do I look to the 7th for his signifier or do I use the 2nd since the card is a moveable possession, or the third for communication. Where would I look to find if he kept it or where would I find if he trashed it? The over all "feeling" I get from this is that he is secretly keeping it... like in a wallet or safe place.

Anyone want to give a stab at this?

TK

[wintersprite1]

I have been reading more and more of the postings and will attempt to figure this out... Remember, this is still foreign to me, I feel like I am performing brain surgery with a plastic knife. Any help or guidence appreciated.

Okay, I mentioned I contacted him because of the death of his son. Saturn is in the 5th (house of children) with a trine to the Sun/Pluto. Mercury (the communication planet and lord of the 3rd) is conjunct Mars, the action planet and signifier for myself, are found in the 8th house. Seems appropriate to the circumstances, no? Communication, from me, because of a death.

With the 7th house we have Libra. So his signifier would be Venus in the 9th within 5 degrees of the MC. The card itself would be represented by the 2nd house which is empty but ruled by Venus. Venus is his signifier .... so the card is with him??? I mentioned the MC because his vocation has him traveling often and with lots of equiptment and different briefcases and such... so maybe the card is kept there.

Now the Moon in the 7th. sigh.... I know that it is the co signifer for myself, but since it is in the 7th does that represent me or him? And what would it mean? I know that he is emotionally tramatized... is that the moon?

I would love to see the "Astroroid" versed members comment. I noticed Juno 1 degree from the Desc and Eris 1 degree from Asc. And the sextile from Venus ( his Sig and the sig for the card) to Chiron.... would that one mean it was healing for him?

I am hoping to learn also from any information about VOC, combust, facing, recieving, etc... as they are all new information for me to learn also.

Thanks!!

TK

[Summery Joy]

I think he did keep it.

I normally use the 5th house to rule romances, but since you described him as the love of you life, he seemed more like 7th-house to me.

You are in fact is signified by Mars, but your card is signified by Mercury because it is ruled by the 3rd house (communication). Mercury is in the 8th; the 2nd from the 7th. The 2nd from the 7th is his possessions. Mercury there shows that he has your card in his possession.

[wintersprite1]

Sorehearted,

I am confused. If the Lord of the 7th is Venus, why do I not count 2 houses (possessions) from Venus instead of the 7th house?

Great, I have learned just enough to be dangerous :(

Thank you for having taken the time on this.

TK

[Summery Joy]

If the Lord of the 7th is Venus, why do I not count 2 houses (possessions) from Venus instead of the 7th house?
Because when we discuss the issue of who has what, we look to the 2nd house from the first house because the 2nd house is the house of moveable possessions; i.e. things that the person has and able to move around with. Since he is ruled by the 7th, his turned 2nd is the 8th, so I used it. This rule doesn't take into account where the houses rulers (significators) are located.

Great, I have learned just enough to be dangerous
Yeah, I know what you mean.

[Summery Joy]

If the Lord of the 7th is Venus, why do I not count 2 houses (possessions) from Venus instead of the 7th house?
Because when we discuss the issue of who has what, we look to the 2nd house from the first house because the 2nd house is the house of moveable possessions; i.e. things that the person has and able to move around with. Since he is ruled by the 7th, his turned 2nd is the 8th, so I used it. This rule doesn't take into account where the house rulers (significators) are located.

Great, I have learned just enough to be dangerous
Yeah, I know what you mean.

[astrobhadauria]

With Aries on the Asc, my signifier would be Mars. Mars is found conjuct Mercury (communication) in the eighth.

mars in 8th House related to death,and conjucted with mercury,vedic formula is saying mars by the 4th dristi,and 8th dristi make bad,from 8th,11th house is the house of friends,and from 8th 2nd is th house of making physical image,like you write a condolense card,your lord was in the house of death,from 3rd is 8th,and mars also damaging,comunication,but the moon in the 7th,saying about hear feeling,the moon is the lord of 4th,and 7th house is the 4th house of 4th house.You send that card to your friend,and card realy delevered to your friends house,but the Ketu from 6th house,(Dog) damaged that card.

[wintersprite1]

You send that card to your friend,and card realy delevered to your friends house,but the Ketu from 6th house,(Dog) damaged that card.



Would this be literal? An actual dog or animal or can it show qualities of others or situations... Such as a loyal person, or damage by the Postal Service?

Interesting though... and I know that you don't look at natal charts in comparison to Horary charts, but his North Node is in 2 degrees of the Ketu (South Node) in the Horary question chart... Could he be his "own Dog"?

TK