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taurous16
09-18-2011, 01:15 PM
This is a pregnancy chart. I asked am I pregnant this time???
Well, most of you know my story... I had an insemination a few days ago, and I will be able to take a test in 4 days from now.
I think this is a positive chart and I'll come back soon to give my interpretation. What do you think????

taurous16
09-18-2011, 01:49 PM
Here is my point of view for this chart:
Acs is cancer which is very fertile
Acs ruler, moon is in 11th, house of conception, and in fact, it is in conjunction with my natal sun (taurous 25,19) and my husband's moon (taurous 26,12).
5h is semi fertile and its ruler is in 4h virgo, which of course is barren.
But then again, not sure if I can take this, but 5 cusp contains all scorpio, which is fertile and its ruler, mars is in 1st house.
Omg...quite complicate again..
Then there are aspects between rulers.. Moon makes triangle with venous and sextile with mars..

tikana
09-18-2011, 03:00 PM
Not getting a yes here

Lord of 5th should be aspecting your Lord of 1st or to be in 1st house

you are fertile but not pregnant

T

taurous16
09-18-2011, 03:27 PM
But isn't venous (lord of 5h) aspecting moon (lord of 1h) ??

tikana
09-18-2011, 04:16 PM
Nope

moon aspects mars first

T

fensi88
09-18-2011, 05:14 PM
You ask "am I pregnant this time" and in this type of question we look for separate (not applying) aspect between rulers. Here in this chart we do not have separate aspect between Ve and Moon, so I agree with Tik, the answer is No.

Anachiel
09-19-2011, 11:32 PM
I'm going out on a limb.

I say "yes".

Moon trines Sun. Also Venus and Jupiter kindly aspect the Ascendant.

Moon now will sextile Mars in the Asc. Mars is lord of the 11th and partial lord of the 5th.

Blessings,

Anachiel

taurous16
09-20-2011, 12:32 PM
Well, I'll have the blood test on Thursday and let you know...
Anachiel, I hope you are right!!! ;-)

dr. farr
09-21-2011, 05:11 AM
(Following is not in accordance with standard horary delineation and uses whole sign house format)

Al-Sadwali's method is positive, but with quesited significator Mars in its Fall, and more importantly, in a pitted degree, and the Moon as lord of the ascendant also in a pitted degree, the indications are too murky-would like to say "yes", but with these significators in pitted degrees, I cannot get a clear prognostic, so I will have to say "maybe", which of course is not much help. By Ankara horary the indications would have been favorable, but the pitted situation of the significators acts very much to "suspend" indications, both + and - indications, hence my unsatisfactory answer ("maybe")...

I sincerely hope the actual answer here is "yes"!

taurous16
09-21-2011, 07:11 AM
Thank you dr Farr... Do you take on count that this chart is about an insemination, so maybe that is the reason things are not coming out smoothly for a yes??

dr. farr
09-21-2011, 08:38 AM
Yes, I think that could definitely be a factor!

DiDi
09-22-2011, 01:47 AM
firstly, yay keeping my fingers crossed for you:biggrin:

looking at the chart it does show the inssemination has taken place with the moon you past jupiter.

I was worried about this chart because the 5th is not inside the asc,
like Tik says
but im wondering if mars which is intercepted in your 5th and ruler in the asc might mean something... like Anachiel says

moons next aspect is to mars in 4 somethings (could be the finding out)


Thank you dr Farr... Do you take on count that this chart is about an insemination, so maybe that is the reason things are not coming out smoothly for a yes??
this is what im thinking to


not all positive pregnancy horary charts show a clear 5th ruler in asc and some do have it and they have not been pg, i think you had a chart like that once?
there has been known positive outcomes of pregnancy charts here showing this case... tryed to find it and couldnt...

anyway fingers crossed for you

taurous16
09-22-2011, 07:07 AM
Yes Didi, I had that chart, I even think it was twice!! Here is the one:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32638
What can I say... I'll have the blood test in a couple of hours....
Fingers crossed! :-)

tikana
09-22-2011, 10:05 AM
okay what happened/

taurous16
09-22-2011, 10:15 AM
Hi Tik! I'll have the results in 3 hours...

tikana
09-22-2011, 10:22 AM
drum roll!

taurous16
09-22-2011, 04:28 PM
I've got negative result...again.. Thank you all!!!

DiDi
09-23-2011, 01:24 AM
so sorry I hope you have support there for you.


the chart showed the insemination very well but all that was left was to find the 5th ruler (and being fertile) in the asc.

mars intercepted in the 5th with it being placed in the asc was not good.

tikana
09-23-2011, 03:36 AM
there was 0 chance of you actually being pregnant.. i dont know why there were YESes and Maybe's posted here

try again

good luck
T

dr. farr
09-23-2011, 04:12 AM
Seems those querent and quesited significators being in pitted degrees, had a blocking action re to this chart...but i do believe indications of fertility are present (as indicated by the Al-Sadwali method, and as mentioned by another poster on this thread), so I would strongly encourage trying again! It will happen!

DiDi
09-23-2011, 05:02 AM
there was 0 chance of you actually being pregnant.. i dont know why there were YESes and Maybe's posted here




well not sure who your talking to here but ill clear up this in case
I didnt say yes or maybe

I dont know as much as everyone else but i do know pg horary well, and it showed the insemination by moon passed jupiter...
as ive stated here a few times, there needs to be 5th ruler in asc, but some positive charts have shown otherwise on other occasions....
scorp was intercepted in the 5th and ruler in her asc.... i havent seen that before so was not going to say yes or maybe....

tikana
09-23-2011, 06:06 AM
Didi

i was talking to Taurus

T

dr. farr
09-23-2011, 06:11 AM
I said maybe, and using the astrological methods I follow, "maybe" was the best I could do; but finding those primary quesited and querent significators in pitted degrees, really seemed to block any hoped for outcome...

Note: the Magic 8 Ball divination method indicated a "no" answer to the question: 5th whole sign house = Scorpio = Mars = a (correct) "no" answer to the question, by the 8 Ball "rules"...