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athenegoddess
08-24-2011, 09:26 PM
There are four listed I think...

-Heliocentric (Tropical)
-Fagan/Bradley Geocentric (Sidereal)
-Hindi Lahiri Geocentric (Sidereal)
-Heliocentric (Sidereal F,B)

The last one represents your higher self correct?


I have:

Sun 13 Sagittarius
Moon 13 Sagittarius - Sabian: The Pyramids and the Sphinx. Keywords: culture, wisdom, education, erudition, values that last forever, a stable and powerful personality, principles.
Venus: 24 Sagittarius
Saturn: 4 Sagittarius
Uranus: 4 Sagittarius - Sabian: An old owl up in a tree. Keywords: wisdom, experience, tact, respect, calm.
Neptune: 14 Sagittarius - Sabian: The ground hog looking for its shadow. Keywords: to search, to predict, to foresee, symbolism, intelligence, to try to anticipate, skill. reassurance, timidity

Mercury 17 Capricorn
Mars 13 Capricorn - Aspecting Sirius! and Conjunct My Natal IC - Sabian Symbol is: An ancient bas-relief carved in granite. Keywords: art, skill, value, foundation, work is a creation which will last long time.

Jupiter: 23 Aries - Sabian: An open window and a net curtain blowing into a cornucopia. Keywords: good luck, abundance, the good facet of life, materialism

Pluto: 17 Libra

Chiron: 5 Gemini

I have a lot of fire energy. Isn't fire the most sacred element? I just found this whole concept of the heliocentric chart being your higher self or christ consciousness very convincing... the reason is because I have what I believe to be the truth about life and my purpose... about everyones purpose really. it's like it took away any facade or what transpires on a daily basis for me in mind and heart. I feel very connected to this chart..

Can anyone explain to me the differences between the above charts? What do your charts look like?

Thanks!

as2321
08-25-2011, 06:46 AM
There are four listed I think...

-Heliocentric (Tropical)
-Fagan/Bradley Geocentric (Sidereal)
-Hindi Lahiri Geocentric (Sidereal)
-Heliocentric (Sidereal F,B)

The last one represents your higher self correct?


I have:

Sun 13 Sagittarius
Moon 13 Sagittarius - Sabian: The Pyramids and the Sphinx. Keywords: culture, wisdom, education, erudition, values that last forever, a stable and powerful personality, principles.
Venus: 24 Sagittarius
Saturn: 4 Sagittarius
Uranus: 4 Sagittarius - Sabian: An old owl up in a tree. Keywords: wisdom, experience, tact, respect, calm.
Neptune: 14 Sagittarius - Sabian: The ground hog looking for its shadow. Keywords: to search, to predict, to foresee, symbolism, intelligence, to try to anticipate, skill. reassurance, timidity

Mercury 17 Capricorn
Mars 13 Capricorn - Aspecting Sirius! and Conjunct My Natal IC - Sabian Symbol is: An ancient bas-relief carved in granite. Keywords: art, skill, value, foundation, work is a creation which will last long time.

Jupiter: 23 Aries - Sabian: An open window and a net curtain blowing into a cornucopia. Keywords: good luck, abundance, the good facet of life, materialism

Pluto: 17 Libra

Chiron: 5 Gemini

I have a lot of fire energy. Isn't fire the most sacred element? I just found this whole concept of the heliocentric chart being your higher self or christ consciousness very convincing... the reason is because I have what I believe to be the truth about life and my purpose... about everyones purpose really. it's like it took away any facade or what transpires on a daily basis for me in mind and heart. I feel very connected to this chart..

Can anyone explain to me the differences between the above charts? What do your charts look like?

Thanks!

you have the truth about life and about everybody's purpose?
why don't you let us know then? :wink:

dr. farr
08-26-2011, 05:47 AM
Actually the 4 types you mentioned refer to the basic, fundamental matrix of the system (zodiacal system) of the chart. Whether heliocentric represents the higher self is problematical-many believe that any of these types of chart can reflect the higher self, depending upon the technique of delineation used in the analysis of the chart.

Rebel Uranian
08-27-2011, 10:45 PM
Just curious, would the tropical or sidereal heliocentric chart be your higher self? There are so many different ways you can calculate these things... Also, what do aspects between your geocentric and heliocentric charts mean? I think a Sun/Earth opposition is automatic, as is an Earth/Moon conjunction...