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sdh3
04-28-2011, 06:40 AM
In Jones' book Sabian Symbols in Astrology, Libra 20 is curiously worded--A Jewish rabbi. I call this wording curious because all definitions of "rabbi" of which I am aware place it squarely within the context of Judiasm. Put simply, there doesn't seem to be any kind of rabbi save Jewish ones. As such, the wording is curiously redundant. That said, a study of the origins of the words "Jewish" and "rabbi" reveals an important underlying theme that resolves the apparent conundrum.

The word Jewish descends from the Aramaic jehudhai meaning “Jew” and the Hebrew Y'hudah meaning "Judah" and literally "celebrated." Judah was the name of the fourth son of the biblical patriarch Jacob and the tribe descended from him.

The word rabbi descends from the Semitic root rbb which means “to be(come) much, many, great.” Other derivatives of this root include reb ( a title of respect for a man), rebbe (a Jewish spiritual leader or rabbi, especially of a Hasidic sect) and rebec (a pear-shaped, two-stringed or three-stringed medieval instrument, played with a bow).

While rabbi literally means “my master” in Latin, Greek, Aramaic, and Hebrew, contemporary definitions all pertain to the Jewish faith. Typical examples are, e.g. “a person trained in Jewish law, ritual, and tradition and ordained for leadership of a Jewish congregation, especially one serving as chief religious official of a synagogue” ; “a scholar qualified to interpret Jewish law” ; “a Jew qualified to expound and apply the halacha and other Jewish law” and “(the title of) a Jewish religious leader or a teacher of Jewish law.”

COMMENTARY: Recall that the root of Jewish is a word meaning “celebrated” while the root of rabbi is rbb, “to be(come) much, many, great.” Given that the adjectives 'great' and 'celebrated' are synonyms it becomes apparent that the same idea is emphasized by both "Jewish" and "rabbi." That idea or theme is concerns great celebration or someone or something that is greatly celebrated.

Mark
04-28-2011, 06:30 PM
Interestingly, that explains a lot.

piercethevale
04-29-2011, 04:28 AM
I apologize to sdh3, Mark and anyone that read my prior post [now deleted] in this thread as I had mistakenly thought that the title said Libra 30*...I've no excuse other than I really scr3wed up on this one...

Mark
04-29-2011, 06:49 PM
I noticed that too, but there is purpose to all things. For instance, my natal Saturn is 29.5° Libra.

piercethevale
04-29-2011, 11:02 PM
I noticed that too, but there is purpose to all things. For instance, my natal Saturn is 29.5° Libra.

Thanks. I'm not sure what purpose it might have served...if it served you in a positive way some how, then that is good.
It has served to remind me that I had intended to quit writing in these forums [and announced and had proceeded to do so some few months ago] as I have more on my plate than I can really seem to handle and maybe I should retire from such. But, I find I have to keep returning to keep the Sabian understanding on the right track and, more importantly. to not let it get derailed.

piercethevale
04-30-2011, 04:55 AM
In Jones' book Sabian Symbols in Astrology, Libra 20 is curiously worded--A Jewish rabbi. I call this wording curious because all definitions of "rabbi" of which I am aware place it squarely within the context of Judiasm. Put simply, there doesn't seem to be any kind of rabbi save Jewish ones. As such, the wording is curiously redundant. That said, a study of the origins of the words "Jewish" and "rabbi" reveals an important underlying theme that resolves the apparent conundrum.

The word Jewish descends from the Aramaic jehudhai meaning “Jew” and the Hebrew Y'hudah meaning "Judah" and literally "celebrated." Judah was the name of the fourth son of the biblical patriarch Jacob and the tribe descended from him.

The word rabbi descends from the Semitic root rbb which means “to be(come) much, many, great.” Other derivatives of this root include reb ( a title of respect for a man), rebbe (a Jewish spiritual leader or rabbi, especially of a Hasidic sect) and rebec (a pear-shaped, two-stringed or three-stringed medieval instrument, played with a bow).

While rabbi literally means “my master” in Latin, Greek, Aramaic, and Hebrew, contemporary definitions all pertain to the Jewish faith. Typical examples are, e.g. “a person trained in Jewish law, ritual, and tradition and ordained for leadership of a Jewish congregation, especially one serving as chief religious official of a synagogue” ; “a scholar qualified to interpret Jewish law” ; “a Jew qualified to expound and apply the halacha and other Jewish law” and “(the title of) a Jewish religious leader or a teacher of Jewish law.”

COMMENTARY: Recall that the root of Jewish is a word meaning “celebrated” while the root of rabbi is rbb, “to be(come) much, many, great.” Given that the adjectives 'great' and 'celebrated' are synonyms it becomes apparent that the same idea is emphasized by both "Jewish" and "rabbi." That idea or theme is concerns great celebration or someone or something that is greatly celebrated.

One of the more profound books of understanding ..IMHO...is the almost treatise like evaluation of Judaism that Sigmund Freud wrote at the end of His years. "Moses and Monotheism".
[and Freud and I are were both born on May 6th and we both have an Scorpio Asc....meaning, I understand the cat...if not wholly agree, but I'm not saying we do disagree. and that is only pertaining to the two books I've read by Him. r.e. "Taboo and Totem" and the aforementioned.]
I didn't read "Moses and Monotheism" until 2005, when I ran across a used copy in the local book store.
Truth is..the book , quite literally fell off the shelf in front of me and landed at my feet. I've mentioned before how 'signs' seem to have been delivered at the right time with the right info...this is one of those I give high rank to.]
As the fact is, that knowing Freud was born a Jew, whom became a Atheist,... [or it may be that he declared himself Agnostic...I can't perfectly recall at this moment...but it's of small matter in regards..] that was in access to a preponderance of the most academically respected published writings on Egyptology and of which He was also linguistically able to translate or had availability to do so [as so much of that info is still not translated into English and is virtually unavailable to us that are limited to that language...and that is, still after all these years, since Freuds' time.] when combined with the understanding that Freud, had a most extolled and proven, superior intellect in combination with most acutely sharp analytical proclivities, what thus was produced is about the most,[I] if not the most, informed and impartial analysis of Judaism and its origins as has been ever known to the world or of that anyone could conceive of...[again, IMHO].
What I gathered from that book and then combined with what Edgar Cayce gave out on the origin of the Aton religion of ancient Egypt as to having originated in Atlantis and its people, who were the 'Red Race', it leads to a most interesting extrapolation as to why this dual study of what both Freud and Cayce had to say on the subject of Judaism just may be of crucial importantance as to being a source of true spiritual understanding and knowledge that either, or both, encompasses [or contributes to] all other true religions [...or more correctly in this case as Cayce, in my opinion, certainly would have stated...Spiritual Knowledge/Understanding].
I'm not saying I'm championing what I've just reviewed and deduced here as a flawless and Divinely perfect truth...but I am saying that Freuds work is the about the most, if not the most in depth truly informed analytical evaluation/summation on the subject of Judaism I've ever chanced to study [... admittedly, as a Gentile] and as I trust Edgar Cayce on any historical matter at nearly 100% implicitly...as per my nearly 50 years of study of His readings and evaluations...I do recommend studying the two sources for yourselves and at least using it as a basis of further study for the spiritually inclined...or investigation for the academically oriented.

piercethevale
09-21-2012, 02:08 AM
Here's something new to add to this old thread. Using a natal chart for the USA based on the zero hour of July 4th, 1776 ...i.e. the stroke of Mid-Night, when the day begins...[regardless of when the Jews think it begins] it has its' "Part of Bankruptcy" [:jupiter: + :neptune: - :uranus:] @ 19* :libra: 17' 39" ...go figure....