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11-13-2006, 10:39 AM
Hello to all,
Would any one know of a website or text information in relation to the Arabic parts ? I looking for more information & descriptions associated to all the Lots. I have found some but i cannot read Latin :confused:
"May the desire of the heart,become the reality of your being"
11-13-2006, 01:51 PM
Would this help?
11-14-2006, 01:26 AM
does anyone know about the part of spirit? i cant find any info about it anywhere, including the above link, and have been wondering about it.
11-14-2006, 02:07 AM
I have the formula for the part of spirit if that is what you need, but I don't really know what it means. L.
11-14-2006, 07:14 AM
This is a good site
Also this one
11-14-2006, 08:51 AM
Formulas of the arabic lots related to each house can be found here
and in the pages pointing to this one.
They were taken from Al Biruni's "The Book of Instructions in the Elements of the Art of Astrology".
11-14-2006, 01:01 PM
The Part Of Spirit is supposed to be the reverse of the Part Of Fortune.
So, instead of Asc + Moon - Sun = POF, it is Asc + Sun - Moon = POS.
An accurate birth time is necessary, or the result will not be effective.
Some use Day Formula and Night Formula (reversed Day Formula) for POF for diurnal and nocturnal births respectively. The above is the Day Formula.
But I don't. Primarily because, in my chart, the Part that is my POS according to the above rule, actually works like a POF. Moreover, Ptolemy and William Lilly used just one formula for day and night charts - the one we know as the Day Formula.
The POF is where you gain materially, your tangible benefits. It is your treasure, your practical talents and how you gain in a concrete way, according to the sign in which it is found. And possibly, according to its house as well. The ruler of the POF's sign, and its strengths or debilities, signifies what your benefits will be.
The POS is where you are benefit spiritually. It is how you gain in spiritual or non-secular ways. It is your soul's wealth, its treasure or reward, according to its sign ruler and its condition. It is where you will always have spiritual reserves to fall back on.
Just as we can share and distribute material wealth, we can also share and distribute our spiritual richness to our fellowmen. I believe that is the ultimate purpose of our POF and POS.
Good info can be found in these sites:
11-14-2006, 05:11 PM
The Arabic Parts calculator also comes in handy. http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/arabicparts/index.php
11-15-2006, 01:52 PM
thanks for all the info guys!!
11-16-2006, 05:06 PM
Thanks for the link. It is the same link Onelove had given. I figured out the problem I spoke of eariler in another thread Using this link (again) I realized why CharmVirgo, charts programs, and I myself (since they always told me it was!) think my POF is 20 39 Sagittarius. This link shows the same thing (Sagittarius) only IF you are using an AM birth. I was NOT born AM , but PM so if this link is accurate I do have my POF conjuncted near perfect with chiron, and in the second house, with Saturn and Black Lilth very close by.
My data is ASC 8 17, SUN 19 49, and MOON 2 11 Cancer. Use Libra20's Link and test it yourself to verify what say.
Using AM it does show 20 39 Sagittarius and for PM 25 55 Pisces
So anyone have an Idea what it translates into? Sounds like a "toughie" but a very interesting one. I kinda 'feel' what it means, but to me that is personal LOL! Just throwing out some "feelers" for the question. I can Identify with Pisces better than Sagittarius, but that does not always mean anything LOL.
01-29-2007, 03:49 AM
I understand you confusion, cause I always thought my POF was 24 Aries, but according to the calculator it is 19 Libra, and spirit is 24 Ariesl
LOL, No way could be third, siblings
Ninth house and Libra is POF
I do not know.
Guess think what does bring more fortune, what house.
01-29-2007, 08:35 PM
The part of spirit becomes the part of fortune for a night time birth so I would assume the part of spirit for a daytime birth would be part of fortune for a nightime birth. If you reverse them then fortune moves in Rx motion and spirit moves direct. In my night time birth my fortune is weeping with the Plaides at 29Taurus in the 10th opposing my Moon. Part of Spirit is conjunct Saturn in the 3rd at 5Scorpio. Yep, that feels right. I have a very deep, abiding sense of Spirit that has gone through an evolutionary process that shed the abuse of former generations given to me during my childhood. Saturn rules one of the grandparents. My grandpa was a minister. He would probably say I'm going to hell.
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