Did they sleep with someone last night?

[hiimnotcool]

I recently (Wednesday of last week) had a relationship that ended (not sure if its permanent. it doesn't feel like it is) due to being mistrusting on my part. It was probably in haste on my part and I feel a little sad because I actually care about this person a lot. They told me when I broke up with them how much they love me and would never do anything to cause mistrust. They said they want to be with me more than anything. I woke up this morning with a terrible feeling and tossed and turned thinking if they slept with someone else last night. I finally asked the question and here's the chart:



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Well, I assume I'd look at the 7th house ruler and then the ruler of their 5th house (my 11th) to see the connections. That comes out to being that the potential person is also ruled by Jupiter. Jupiter is in my ex's 5th house of sex so that makes me wonder. The only thing confusing me is that I am Mercury and am also in their house and applying to conjunction. The Moon is in my 1st and the next aspect iy makes is a square to my significator. Does my sig applying to their sig in their 5th house indicate that they do in fact love me and desire to be with me? I could also assume that the square from the Moon to my sig could show my mental unrest regarding the situation. Can anybody shed light on this for me?

[Olivia]

I think the Moon conjunct SN in 1 is destroying the question. But you're right - the closest applying planet to your ex is - you.

With the South Node and Moon, do you think you could have really ******* it up with the jealousy scene the other day? It's a corrupting influence of some sort, and 'shooting one's self in the foot' might apply here.

Who, if anyone, does Venus represent, and was he or she the object of your argument? Venus is leaving a sextile with Jupiter by 3 degrees, so the timing more or less matches.

[hiimnotcool]

Thank you for the reply.


I don't know if I really messed it up or not. I am pretty sure things can get resolved if we really talk about it and clarify a few things. I'm pretty hot headed so I make impulse decisions. I'll probably have to be really humble with her and explain myself. She also just found out she's pregnant with my child so it's definitely not the last I'll ever see of her.

Venus probably represents her ex boyfriend. She dated him for 3 years and they broke up quite awhile ago. They also have a kid together so they're still in contact almost daily. That's what bothers me.

[isismagdalenne]

Im interested to try looking at this one, but Im trying to figure out why Im getting a 3 dgr cancer ASC. Am I having a time change issue? today is time change. But I put in 11:09 AM.

[hiimnotcool]

Im interested to try looking at this one, but Im trying to figure out why Im getting a 3 dgr cancer ASC. Am I having a time change issue? today is time change. But I put in 11:09 AM.


Must be the time change. This is the chart I got when I casted the chart. Daylight savings time is tricky lol. Why not just use the chart I posted?

[isismagdalenne]

everyone asks me that....I wonder why it matters. Because I like the softwear I use and the customizations I have set up. gimme a minute Ill figure it out:)
...ok if I put in 10 AM it does the right ASC gemini. My program must be set for different dates that DST takes effect. Ok ima look at this a minute then reply with my humble try

[hiimnotcool]

everyone asks me that....I wonder why it matters. Because I like the softwear I use and the customizations I have set up. gimme a minute Ill figure it out:)
...ok if I put in 10 AM it does the right ASC gemini. My program must be set for different dates that DST takes effect. Ok ima look at this a minute then reply with my humble try


okay :smile:

[isismagdalenne]

ok first off, a few of us around here have been tracking charts like this. namely south node :southnode: in the first house and moon in cancer in the 1st. Seems like there has been a trend of the results being not reliable. But anyhow, we should read it anyway, then track how it comes out.
I was thinking if you look at your 7th and take it for her 1st... then take 5th from that representing her kids (your 11th) then take the 10th from that to find their father (your 8th) which would make him Saturn and would make him and her in opposition, by aspect and by contraparellel. So I dont think she is sleeping with him. Could venus just be her? because even though its seperating from jupiter its applying to mercury soon.
So Im wondering 2 things. May I ask why you broke up with her in the first place? And secondly what made you start thinking she may have started sleeping with someone while you were broke up?

[hiimnotcool]

ok first off, a few of us around here have been tracking charts like this. namely south node :southnode: in the first house and moon in cancer in the 1st. Seems like there has been a trend of the results being not reliable. But anyhow, we should read it anyway, then track how it comes out.
I was thinking if you look at your 7th and take it for her 1st... then take 5th from that representing her kids (your 11th) then take the 10th from that to find their father (your 8th) which would make him Saturn and would make him and her in opposition, by aspect and by contraparellel. So I dont think she is sleeping with him. Could venus just be her? because even though its seperating from jupiter its applying to mercury soon.
So Im wondering 2 things. May I ask why you broke up with her in the first place? And secondly what made you start thinking she may have started sleeping with someone while you were broke up?


that is actually a very interesting take on it that i havent considered in regards to turning the chart to find his ruler. that honestly never even occurred to me.


to answer your questions: i broke up with her due to past relationships. i have had girls texting and talking to other guys on the side and they swore that the guys were just friends. that turned out to be lies. She really didn't do anything wrong. I just perceived it as wrong since it is what I have dealt with before.

[dr. farr]

For me, finding the South Node in the ascending sign (anywhere in the ascending sign, since I use whole sign house format) is the only stricture against judgement that I follow-so, i would say (if you asked me!) re-ask this same question again at a later (somewhat later) time...

[hiimnotcool]

lol well i ended up hanging out with her last night and sleeping with her. i guess the chart was right about me joining her.

[isismagdalenne]

Im still learning, so until something changes Ive pretty much got everything I personally can out of the chart. But on a personal note, I understand what your saying about the her having male friends thing. It is hard for both of you. I had a very good friend who had been my friend since I was 17. When me and my fiance moved in together, I stopped talking to my friend all together. He didnt ask me to do this, I did it on my own. And the reason was because even if it was innocent and nothing would ever had happened, I didnt even want him to have to have the question. I wanted to consider my fiance's feelings in it and never wanted him to have to feel like he wasnt sure. It was hard though and it still is. Sometimes I miss my friend, sometimes I think about contacting him. But, I just love my fiance so much I wouldnt want him to have to feel bad at all even about the question of it. And I thought about it because I know if my fiance had a female friend, I probably wouldnt like it either. So thats the desicion I made in my case. I think in general though, it is OK to have a friend of the opposite sex while in a relationship with someone else, as long as certain boundaries are respected. The rules should be. If they are going to be friends with one in the couple, they have to be friends with both. If you hang out with the other friend... its as a couple when all 3 are together. And dont do anything that can be misconstrued. If its making the partner feel bad. STOP. because thats the relationship of priority.
I think you should give her a little slack though while you guys work out what terms you wanna agree on for relationship "rules" (so to speak) because she is now having your baby. Soon, you will find that fact trumps alot of other stuff too. And the most loving thing you can ever do for your kid, is TRY YOUR HARDEST to love its mother, or if you absolutely cant go that far, or cant stay in love...to have a good kind relationship with her. Her ability to be a good mom is effected by how you treat her. You may not understand right now, but I speak from very personal experience. Dont let little stupid things throw a wrench in it all... it will be a confusing time and both of you might end up saying or doing things you dont mean just because your trying to work it all out in your heads. Just try to remember that and blow off any little things that frustrate you and HOPEFULLY she'll do the same.

[hiimnotcool]

Im still learning, so until something changes Ive pretty much got everything I personally can out of the chart. But on a personal note, I understand what your saying about the her having male friends thing. It is hard for both of you. I had a very good friend who had been my friend since I was 17. When me and my fiance moved in together, I stopped talking to my friend all together. He didnt ask me to do this, I did it on my own. And the reason was because even if it was innocent and nothing would ever had happened, I didnt even want him to have to have the question. I wanted to consider my fiance's feelings in it and never wanted him to have to feel like he wasnt sure. It was hard though and it still is. Sometimes I miss my friend, sometimes I think about contacting him. But, I just love my fiance so much I wouldnt want him to have to feel bad at all even about the question of it. And I thought about it because I know if my fiance had a female friend, I probably wouldnt like it either. So thats the desicion I made in my case. I think in general though, it is OK to have a friend of the opposite sex while in a relationship with someone else, as long as certain boundaries are respected. The rules should be. If they are going to be friends with one in the couple, they have to be friends with both. If you hang out with the other friend... its as a couple when all 3 are together. And dont do anything that can be misconstrued. If its making the partner feel bad. STOP. because thats the relationship of priority.
I think you should give her a little slack though while you guys work out what terms you wanna agree on for relationship "rules" (so to speak) because she is now having your baby. Soon, you will find that fact trumps alot of other stuff too. And the most loving thing you can ever do for your kid, is TRY YOUR HARDEST to love its mother, or if you absolutely cant go that far, or cant stay in love...to have a good kind relationship with her. Her ability to be a good mom is effected by how you treat her. You may not understand right now, but I speak from very personal experience. Dont let little stupid things throw a wrench in it all... it will be a confusing time and both of you might end up saying or doing things you dont mean just because your trying to work it all out in your heads. Just try to remember that and blow off any little things that frustrate you and HOPEFULLY she'll do the same.


thanks for typing all of that out and i say that sincerely. you made a lot of great points and i'll do my best to put the advice into action. i completely agree that the most important thing is the kid.

i found out she was hanging out with her ex boyfriend most of the time we were broke up, though. she says its because of the baby and i'm sure that's partially true. let's just say i won't be letting myself get too emotionally invested.

[isismagdalenne]

I dont blame you. And I dont mean to keep this going on and on if you are done with what you were saying, but actually the best thing you probably can do right now is NOT get too emotional. Because its easier to let things get out of control when your acting on emotions. Better to stay on the course that is acting with your head. Dont do anythng rash..pace yourself because you are going to be interacting with her for the rest of your life. No reason to put anything into high gear, be it affectionate emotions or angry emotions either one. I got knocked up. I slept with him 1 time and was pregnant. I had to ask him his last name the same night I told him I was pregnant. And now almost 8 years(ish) later...we are engaged and have been together for...7 1/2 years (ish) BUT the road to this point was full of left turns and bumps and whatever other euphamism you can stick in there. So I know exactly what its like to end up in a VERY serious situation with someone your unsure about. Just keep thinking with your head when it comes to what to do, how to react and think with your heart when it involves remembering to be compassionate to someone your child will love very much:)
I know the moon in the first means things will be changing and changing and changing in the situation....maybe alot of back and forth. And this may be wrong but it occured to me...maybe the reason she hung out with her ex the whole time you broke up was because ... she is pregnant..you werent around...so she went to hang out with someone she was already familiar with being in that situation with..?