Chiron on Neptune.

[Draco]

Okay, so when it comes to Chiron, I am hugely skeptical, I take the outers with a pinch of salt, let alone this one - but, none the less, I'm curious as to what you Chiron watchers might have to say.

I am wondering what the loosely general influence of Chiron would be in exact conjunction with a person's natal Neptune exactly upon the eleventh house cusp in the last decan of Sagittarius. I know that all astrological configurations should not be taken in isolation and that whatever else is going on in the chart ought to be taken into consideration, but what would be your brief for this line up?

[Frisiangal]

You're obviously not talking of a chart from the 20th century, as Neptune and Chiron were in opposing signs .......at both ends!:p

Neptune in Sagittarius has associations with transcending expansion of consciousness, especially where one's beliefs are concerned. The Leo decanate could be indicative of a leader, director, organiser, tyrant, whose PERSONAL beliefs act as the metre. They could be somewhat fanatical of content, nothing by half-measure. Add Chiron and one could be either a teacher, follower, or a scapegoat within such a belief system, sacrificing everything for the promises held by such a belief....and the pain in attaining them. The early missionaries saving souls in far away places.

Neptune/Chiron could also be indicative of one instructed in the art of health patterns, or one enduring and suffering a mortal unhealing wound. Martyrdom with the Leo influence.

Sagittarius is associated with the social system, so Neptune/Chiron could be indicative of one that has no place within such a system, preferring to live as a hermit....possibly abroad where the Leo influence promises warmth.

With the 11th house, the energy would be directed towards the larger social scale, the community, groups, humanitarian goals etc.

Close?:)

F.

[Radu]

I'm reviewing posts on Chiron and I found this one.

Indeed as Frisiangal said Neptune and Chiron have not been conjunct each other for a long time, since 1945, next exact conjunction will take place in 2010. Other conjunctions: 1879-1880, 1799.

Visionary Jakob Lorber was born [22 Jul 1800] with a such conjunction.