Draco
10-23-2006, 02:06 AM
Hi all,
No, no. I'm not planning on murdering somebody! :eek: This is purely theoretical, I just have an interest in crime and the dark side, and I wondered, what would be a good electional chart for getting away with murder? As for a time limit, then imagine that the deadly deed is to take place any time within the next few months.
The malefics are the first planets that come to mind, and as we seek to have them on our side, they should be strong. Mars preferably in Scorpio, as Aries is brute force, but Scorpio is cunning, subtle and detective.
With Mars in Scorpio, it would be good to place it upon the Ascendant for the manifesting moment of the act of murder. The victim then, would be the Descendant, so the ruler of Taurus, Venus, representing the victim, would need to be weak or afflicted, preferably via Mars and in Mars ruled sign.
While thinking about this I noticed that on the 24th October, Mars, Venus and the Sun will form a partile conjunction at Scorpio 1. If a person was planning to get away with murder, then would placing this conjunction on the Ascendant be a good time to enact the deed?
Mars would be strong in Scorpio upon the Ascendant, in fact as strong as it can possibly be as it would be in it's domicile, triplicity, term and face, the victim, Venus would be right within the clutches of Mars, and very weak indeed, placing the victim beneath the control of the killer as much as can be possible, making the deed swift and easy.
The Sun combusts both Mars and Venus, which is good, because then both Mars and Venus, killer and victim, are rendered invisible, suggesting that the murder will be difficult to uncover. The Sun, like Venus is completely subject to Mars' influence, being in his domicile, triplicity, term and face, and as the Sun rules the tenth house of the authorities and is the principle that uncovers truth and brings to light, then this would severly inhibit the chances of the murder being detected and uncovered.
Saturn, the natural significator of law and authority, is in a bad way as it is exiled in Leo, and it's power to act disastrously is emphasised by it's angular placement, increasing the likelihood that the authorities would act in error and be unable to uncover the deed, as well as the tenth house being ruled by the Sun which is peregrine of itself and weak in the clutches of Mars.
All this is a bit morbid I know, but it makes for an interesting discussion.
I haven't had a thorough look yet, but this would seem a good chart for the deed if a person was planning to time the moment right to murder and get away with it, here's the data:
23 Oct, 2006
7.54 am (-1)
St Annes, England
3-W-2 / 53-N-50
What would you be looking for if you were electing a chart to get away with murder? What do you think about the above data? What are it's strengths and weaknesses? How might you alter it to make the outcome better?
I'm of to think about how Jupiter, Mercury and the Moon might figure in all of this.
I haven't considered the outer planets in this, somehow for me, just using the Sacred Seven keeps it real.
No, no. I'm not planning on murdering somebody! :eek: This is purely theoretical, I just have an interest in crime and the dark side, and I wondered, what would be a good electional chart for getting away with murder? As for a time limit, then imagine that the deadly deed is to take place any time within the next few months.
The malefics are the first planets that come to mind, and as we seek to have them on our side, they should be strong. Mars preferably in Scorpio, as Aries is brute force, but Scorpio is cunning, subtle and detective.
With Mars in Scorpio, it would be good to place it upon the Ascendant for the manifesting moment of the act of murder. The victim then, would be the Descendant, so the ruler of Taurus, Venus, representing the victim, would need to be weak or afflicted, preferably via Mars and in Mars ruled sign.
While thinking about this I noticed that on the 24th October, Mars, Venus and the Sun will form a partile conjunction at Scorpio 1. If a person was planning to get away with murder, then would placing this conjunction on the Ascendant be a good time to enact the deed?
Mars would be strong in Scorpio upon the Ascendant, in fact as strong as it can possibly be as it would be in it's domicile, triplicity, term and face, the victim, Venus would be right within the clutches of Mars, and very weak indeed, placing the victim beneath the control of the killer as much as can be possible, making the deed swift and easy.
The Sun combusts both Mars and Venus, which is good, because then both Mars and Venus, killer and victim, are rendered invisible, suggesting that the murder will be difficult to uncover. The Sun, like Venus is completely subject to Mars' influence, being in his domicile, triplicity, term and face, and as the Sun rules the tenth house of the authorities and is the principle that uncovers truth and brings to light, then this would severly inhibit the chances of the murder being detected and uncovered.
Saturn, the natural significator of law and authority, is in a bad way as it is exiled in Leo, and it's power to act disastrously is emphasised by it's angular placement, increasing the likelihood that the authorities would act in error and be unable to uncover the deed, as well as the tenth house being ruled by the Sun which is peregrine of itself and weak in the clutches of Mars.
All this is a bit morbid I know, but it makes for an interesting discussion.
I haven't had a thorough look yet, but this would seem a good chart for the deed if a person was planning to time the moment right to murder and get away with it, here's the data:
23 Oct, 2006
7.54 am (-1)
St Annes, England
3-W-2 / 53-N-50
What would you be looking for if you were electing a chart to get away with murder? What do you think about the above data? What are it's strengths and weaknesses? How might you alter it to make the outcome better?
I'm of to think about how Jupiter, Mercury and the Moon might figure in all of this.
I haven't considered the outer planets in this, somehow for me, just using the Sacred Seven keeps it real.