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01-15-2011, 05:55 AM
I used house system Alcabitius. The Asc is virgo, so I am mercury. The cusp of 5 is cap so saturn. There is no major aspect between mercury and saturn, except a quintile. I dont know how many would say they count for anything as far as an answer to the question. Ive heard minor aspects cannot give a yes or no, that they only add background accompanying info to the yes or no taken from elsewhere in the chart. So far, to me this means "no". The moon co-sig., has no aspect to saturn but it is contraparallel to mercury. Saturn is in the 2nd and mercury is in the 4th, and i have to be honest, I dont know what them being in those spots means. I read somewhere that jupiter is significant in pregnancy horary because it's "expansive" the moon will sextile jupiter...which could be a yes? But maybe not because I dont see any reception (correct me on that if needed, Im still learning) The planets in the 5th are sun, mars (combust) and (pluto for those who look at it) The sun was squared saturn (its 7 dgrs seperating, so something that happened in the past?) and trine the moon almost exact in 0* 22'. I dont know the significance of this though outside of looking at what the planets posited in the 5th are doing. Mars in 5th is also seperating from a sextile with jupiter (which I hope isnt talking about conception) Ok, so lemme know what the chart looks like to you guys. Id appreciate it, please.
01-15-2011, 10:31 AM
I was looking at your chart and I've noticed that there is some mutual reception between your ruler Mercury and child's ruler Saturn. Mercury is in Saturn rulership while Saturn is in Mercury triplicity.
Also Mercury - you - just changed the sign from it's house of detriment to the house ruled by Saturn. I think can be that something new just happened.
Moon is in Taurus and it's the most elevated planet in the chart. You say it's contra-parallel Mercury. At the same time it's in Saturn term and face.
These are the signs that could point to a "yes" in my opinion. Honestly I don't know if that's enough..... as we don't see strong testimonies like aspects or fertile signs on Asc and 5th house cusps or 5th house ruler in 1st....
Wish you all the best and please update!
01-16-2011, 04:08 AM
you are right, I didnt even notice the moon being in saturn's term and face. And Merc and saturn are in each other's dignities but I was under the thinking that it couldn't be reception without an aspect. Anyone else wanna help with this? And thank you for commenting, Belinda, I appreciate it alot. I will for SURE keep you updated. I kinda live here. lol. I hope Im not pregnant guys.
01-16-2011, 05:45 AM
(Following is not in accordance with standard horary delineation and uses whole sign house format)
First I shall look at the chart relative to fertility indications as I learned from Manly P. Hall:
-Capricorn on 5th:-
-Sun in 5th:-
-Mars in 5th:-
-Aries on 8th:-
-Cancer on 11th: +
-South Node in 11th: -
-Virgo on 1st: -
-1st trigonal night lord of Capricorn on 5th = Moon: +
-Part of Conception (asc+sun-mars, night formula) = 2 Virgo: Virgo = -
Net likelihood = -5
So by the Hall evaluation the indications are NO
-Part of Conception (POC) @ 2 Virgo = - testimony (Virgo fertility indication); however POC in querent's house/in the ascending sign = + testimony: so net neutral testimony
-querent (and POC) both under Virgo = Mercury significator
-5th house (children indicator) = Capricorn = Saturn significator
-Mercury makes no aspect with Saturn = - testimony
-Mercury posited in 5th house (+) in a pitted degree (-) which is also a critical degree (+) = net + testimony
-Mercury flows away from Saturn = - testimony
-Moon flows toward POC and Saturn (+) but flows away from 5th house and Mercury (-) = net neutral testimony
-Moon makes no aspect to either Saturn or Mercury = - testimony
-Moon in a pitted degree (knocks out its exaltation influences in Taurus) = - testimony
-Mercury in a pitted degree (-) but also a critical degree (+) = net neutral testimony
-Saturn in exaltation sign = + testimony
Positive = + 2 testimonies
Negative = - 4 testimonies
Net = - 2 testimonies
Combining results from the Hall method and Primary Ankara horary, the indications are that the querent is not pregnant.
The Part of Conception in the querent's house (1st house) could be significant: that this house is under Virgo-a non-fertile sign-I think puts the pregnancy in doubt; nonetheless this is a potent position for the POC to be in. I shall state at this time that if my delineation proves to be incorrect, it would be due to this 1st house position of the Part of Conception.
(Note: the experimental Walis Magic 8 Ball is of no help in this case: by taking the 5th house as signfying sign we get Capricorn = Saturn = a "no" answer; however, taking the place of the Part of Conception as signfying sign we get Virgo = Mercury = a "yes" answer: in this case, with excellent reasons for both the 5th and the POC being taken as significator, I cannot say that the 8 Ball method would indicate a definite yes or no and so I shall not test the 8 Ball method in this question)
01-17-2011, 06:12 AM
my kepler program has been known to spit out weird listings for arabic parts, but, just to mention. It has listed the part of "children" conjunct the uranus/jupiter conjunction.
01-19-2011, 09:06 AM
I pee'd on a stick tonight. It said no, but Im not 100% convinced yet, though I would like to be convinced.
01-20-2011, 05:18 PM
Good for you, must have been a relief since you didn't plan a baby now.
Don't know why I though you did. Was trying to find something to hold on to.
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