Sept 7th eclipse

[jenreynolds]

My b/f and I had our first disagreement around Sept 7th....

At that time he stopped talking to me for 4 days, but we made up. Another woman who he's been internet friends with just took that opportunity at that time, and moved in for the kill! Their relationship changed to the point she convinced him that they are in love, but they have never met! I cant believe he fell for her drama.

The Sept 7th eclipse fell in my 7th house a few degrees from my Venus.
Yeah, its been a month of heartbreak over this.

But why would it be a "new beginning" for her. I thought Lunar Eclipses were all about endings? Is she just teasing him along with internet illusions/fantasies, or does she enjoy being manipulative and getting her way (getting me out of the way because she knew he was dating me since August) or was this their 6 month friendship where some feelings came to light?

I am not sure what to think. He has not talked to me for 10 days...

[Catatonia]

Hi Jey,

I have to admit to you that I've been through a similar story and I know how that stupid, most delusional process goes. My BEST advice to you as both an independent, uncertified semi-astrologer (LOL, talk about the **** I can make up in the heat of the moment...) and as a person living day to day is this: the eclipse occurred. You are only aware of the effects it has made in YOUR life. Forget the cyber-femme he's creating wonderful illusions about because he's trying to escape reality. Look at yourself, your life, your relationship with him, and your future. Try to put things together that way after careful scrutinization, because the reality is - this HAD to happen the way it did. I doubt you'd want this person back judging by his actions. Just take a moment and try to think to yourself, "Have I really lost anything? Is there -really- anything to be upset about?" Breakups are never fun, but when you think about the future you never know what may happen.

Love and Light,
Catatonia

[jenreynolds]

Catatonia,
Thank you for your kind reply. I know eclipses tend to shine light on things for a reason....but for the life of me this one does not make sense. Into the 3rd week of our dating, he told everyone that I was going to be his next wife. He introduced me to his family. We sat down several times and we discussed future plans, 10 years down the road. It was all going so smoothly....until this woman butted in. If she was a true friend to him she should have respected our relationship.

How he could do a complete 360 in a matter of a week and a half of her bold interference, is what makes me FURIOUS. Then again, his last wife was an extremely attractive manipulative woman 14 years older than he, who took him for all he was worth leaving him broke and alone. I think he's attracted to that type...so, he obviously is choosing to go down that path again.

But where does that leave me? I dont like my heart being toyed with like that esp when talk of marriage was involved. I was 100% sincere and sure.

[ramsye]

Hey Jen, I am really sorry about what happened and I must say that my heart goes out to you because something very similar happened to me at the sept 7th eclipse. Read my posting -- click on the link below or just look for a post by me under horary/relational issues.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3157

Wishing you well.
Ramsy

[Catatonia]

Catatonia,
Thank you for your kind reply. I know eclipses tend to shine light on things for a reason....but for the life of me this one does not make sense. Into the 3rd week of our dating, he told everyone that I was going to be his next wife. He introduced me to his family. We sat down several times and we discussed future plans, 10 years down the road. It was all going so smoothly....until this woman butted in. If she was a true friend to him she should have respected our relationship.

How he could do a complete 360 in a matter of a week and a half of her bold interference, is what makes me FURIOUS. Then again, his last wife was an extremely attractive manipulative woman 14 years older than he, who took him for all he was worth leaving him broke and alone. I think he's attracted to that type...so, he obviously is choosing to go down that path again.

But where does that leave me? I dont like my heart being toyed with like that esp when talk of marriage was involved. I was 100% sincere and sure.

Jen,

For the Love of God, if the guy was planning marriage in the 3rd week of dating that is all the reason to STOP. He may have been sincere, but the entire relationship was PREMATURE. You -must- understand that the best way is the SLOWEST way. Things must be learned. No one knows anything right off the bat even though you're looking at the relationship through rose-colored glasses. Jen, I know it's hard. You're going to have to let it go. You're saying, how could this happen in a week and a half? Well, you've got to remember...how do you think it looks when you're planning marriage with someone you've known for only 3 weeks? The guy may be desperate, he may be confused...hell, whatever he is, I suggest you look elsewhere. A relationship must be built. Nothing is awarded without work. Good luck.

Catatonia

[unukalhai]

The Sept7 eclipse caused many sudden, unexpected changes for many people. The eclipse fell only 2 1/3 degree from Uranus, the planet of sudden changes.

Uranus opposed Juno by a mere 40 arcmin, ensuring the sudden changes would occur with commited relationships and matrimony.

It is truely amazing how many relationships have been adversely affected by this eclipse; It's to the point the next time someone mentions they had relationship troubles I'm going to say "oh, must have been around the Sept 7, huh?!" <giggle> - I saw the first example on Sept 10th when I learned my close friend had totally destroyed his 3-year relationship by his lack of self control. He cheated, then totally threw it in her face! He mentoned it happened on the 7th/8th, and I realized I needed to look harder into this eclipse.

Furthermore, at eclipse (Sun/Moon opposition) exactness, Venus was exactly square to the Moon/Saturn midpoint, further showing loss and hardship in relationships (Moon was the eclipsed object, Saturn rules losses and lessons of hardship, Venus = relationships, and the square aspect indicates conflict) -- Since the Eclipse is a Sun/Moon opposition, Venus was therefore at the midpoint of Sun/Saturn. The orb on both these aspects at the time of eclipse was _exact_, as in less than a single arcmin!

Mercury and Mars also formed an exact midpoint to the nodal axis, showing that communcation (Mercury) between people (Nodes) would be abrupt, forceful and selfish (Mars) - a perfect cause for the effect of the Sun/Moon/Venus/Saturn midpoint alignment mentioned above.

Furthermore, Venus/Chiron midpoint (pain/wounds through relationships, a midpoint I have personally experienced the often painful power of) squared Saturn at 1/4 degree of orb, indicating more losses and lessons through wounded relationships and the pain of such.

The Sept7 eclipse looks fairly benign on the surface, with Jupiter forming a fairly happy-looking sextile/trine to the eclipse axis, but delving into the midpoints of the eclipse, and the Uranus/Juno opposition close to the eclipse axis, and also the really tight conjunction of Lillith (unrequited/denied love, etc) to the South Node (things which we must let go of, the past, and that which poisons us), we see a very different picture of this eclipse.

The nature of this eclipse is brought further to light by the sabian for the 16th degree of Virgo, the degree of the Sun, an important degree as it is the degree of the eclipsed light's origin.

"In The Zoo, Children Are Brought Face To Face With An Orang-Utang"

Keynote: A Direct Confrontation With The "Wild" Power Of Primordial Nature Within Oneself

During this twelfth subcycle closing the first half of the cycle we deal with phases of unfoldment which can be very broadly classified under the term "e-ducation," i.e. a leading out into the world of transcendant activity. Every hidden motive and depth energy has to be "led out" and objectivly faced. According to the occult tradition, at least some of the ape species are actually throwbacks resulting from the perversion of the man archetype when it belatedly came in touch with the elemental energies of an adolescent Earth. Likewise many of the so-called "primitive" tribes in places like Australia and New Guinea should be considered degenerate remnants of races which once had reached a much higher level of culture. In other words, the symbol refers to the confrontation of future-oriented modern children with the results of what one might refer to as an "original sin" - That is, with the degeneration of enormous vitalistic power once available to the human being. That power is now directed toward the mind, and has been immenselt magnified by modern technology. Yet there are residual remains of the vitalistic power in modern man's nature, and we may well repeat at a higher level the "sin of the mindless". The canidate for initiation must face this possibility; the whole of mankind, in a sense, is a canidate for a planetary initiation."

This is the first stage of the thirty-fourth sequenence of symbols. It symbol speaks of karmic confrontation


And yes, Lunar Eclipises are endings, however all beginnings follow an ending, and all endings result in a beginning!