Prominence or importance of Uranus.

[lenartz]

Okay, so yesterday I looked at my Synastry and Composite charts with my person of interest and I've noticed a sort of "Uranian" quality to it, if that's the right word.

The person in question's descendant is in Aquarius, ruled by Uranus. Ruler of 7th house is in the 5th house. So, I get the feeling that this relationship will be filled with unusual, excitement and unpredictability.

Furthermore, in our Synastry chart, my Uranus trines all of her personal planets, Jupiter, conjuncts Neptune and sextiles Pluto. I'm not at all sure how that looks like, but I'm guessing, I would be very unusual and exciting for this? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, I just looked at our Composite chart and it has a Yod pattern that points directly at Uranus in Sagittarius (in retrograde) in the 5th house.

Speaking for myself, I am more of a Mercurial person (Sun in Gemini, Mercury rules my Ascendant (Virgo) and MC (Gemini)), but I do have some Uranian traits since my North Node is in Aquarius and I was born in the last week of Gemini, which is the Aquarius decanate.

So, according to my understanding, in a nutshell, I would have a very Uranian relationship with this person.

I would really appreciate any further insights about this. Thank you.

[astrologer50]

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[lenartz]

Oh, hello. I'm so sorry, I forgot the charts. I'm going to post our Synastry, Composite, and our individual charts.

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks. :)

I am the Gemini sun, and my person of interest is the Virgo sun.

[Lion o ness]

Im not an expert. I cant give you interpretations like others here can.. But what I can tell you is.....


It's that 12th house Synastry. Its very deep and emotional... It will make you dig into your subconsciousness, you will have to dig way deep down inside and figure out what it is your feeling... Words just cant even express the effects someone has on you when they hit your 12th house like that.. Also you hit her 12th with your Venus and Mars... Since your 12th is empty you are likely to discover things about yourself, you never knew.... (its close to your asc, so I wonder if, it effects you the same)


Actually me and you have this in common, I am also going through this, which is why I know how deep the effect is.. Its also a both way in my connection..
Ur 12th is Leo. Here's is Cancer
I find it very intersting, that the elements are the same as mine also... My Leo Stellium falls in his 12th... His Pisces Stellium falls in my 12th...
So he has a Leo in his 12th like you do...

This is not an easy bond to break, even though Uranus may all of a sudden end it... the connection, and the bond will remain and so will contact with each other.... Letting go will be very hard....

I have researched, and googled about 12th house synastry... Here is one of the best links I have found.. This link can proabaly explain it better than me... It's just really hard to put into words.. But Im sure you understand what I am talking about...
http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/09/16/synastry-studies-the-twelfth-house-and-the-double-inconjunct/#comment-1201


I have a few questions for you..
1. Is it a secret?
2. Do you hide your feelings from her?

I would love to discuss this privately with you, I would really like to know your side of it, and how having Leo in the 12th is....

Ps... My Leo stellium is also in your 12th... lol

[Veronica]

Im not an expert. I cant give you interpretations like others here can.. But what I can tell you is.....


It's that 12th house Synastry. Its very deep and emotional... It will make you dig into your subconsciousness, you will have to dig way deep down inside and figure out what it is your feeling... Words just cant even express the effects someone has on you when they hit your 12th house like that.. Also you hit her 12th with your Venus and Mars... Since your 12th is empty you are likely to discover things about yourself, you never knew.... (its close to your asc, so I wonder if, it effects you the same)


Actually me and you have this in common, I am also going through this, which is why I know how deep the effect is.. Its also a both way in my connection..
Ur 12th is Leo. Here's is Cancer
I find it very intersting, that the elements are the same as mine also... My Leo Stellium falls in his 12th... His Pisces Stellium falls in my 12th...
So he has a Leo in his 12th like you do...

This is not an easy bond to break, even though Uranus may all of a sudden end it... the connection, and the bond will remain and so will contact with each other.... Letting go will be very hard....

I have researched, and googled about 12th house synastry... Here is one of the best links I have found.. This link can proabaly explain it better than me... It's just really hard to put into words.. But Im sure you understand what I am talking about...
http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/09/16/synastry-studies-the-twelfth-house-and-the-double-inconjunct/#comment-1201


I have a few questions for you..
1. Is it a secret?
2. Do you hide your feelings from her?

I would love to discuss this privately with you, I would really like to know your side of it, and how having Leo in the 12th is....

Ps... My Leo stellium is also in your 12th... lol

I kind of agree 12th house placements are hard to understand or put it in words.. its like a vibe, I know something you don't know( that the 12 person unconsciously hides)... or I KNOW.. what you are trying to hide...

[Lion o ness]

I kind of agree 12th house placements are hard to understand or put it in words.. its like a vibe, I know something you don't know( that the 12 person unconsciously hides)... or I KNOW.. what you are trying to hide...

Veronica have you been the planet person hitting someones 12th? Because I have read that the planet person is really suspicious of the house person.

I do sort of feel the suspicious, he felt it more.. that I do know... He is really paranoid when it comes to me.... lol...

I feel more, like I owe him something... but I do also feel that I can see right through him... I know what he's feeling.. sometimes I think he even knows... But that may be neptune... Lots of neptune connections also..

[lenartz]

Im not an expert. I cant give you interpretations like others here can.. But what I can tell you is.....


It's that 12th house Synastry. Its very deep and emotional... It will make you dig into your subconsciousness, you will have to dig way deep down inside and figure out what it is your feeling... Words just cant even express the effects someone has on you when they hit your 12th house like that.. Also you hit her 12th with your Venus and Mars... Since your 12th is empty you are likely to discover things about yourself, you never knew.... (its close to your asc, so I wonder if, it effects you the same)


Actually me and you have this in common, I am also going through this, which is why I know how deep the effect is.. Its also a both way in my connection..
Ur 12th is Leo. Here's is Cancer
I find it very intersting, that the elements are the same as mine also... My Leo Stellium falls in his 12th... His Pisces Stellium falls in my 12th...
So he has a Leo in his 12th like you do...

This is not an easy bond to break, even though Uranus may all of a sudden end it... the connection, and the bond will remain and so will contact with each other.... Letting go will be very hard....

I have researched, and googled about 12th house synastry... Here is one of the best links I have found.. This link can proabaly explain it better than me... It's just really hard to put into words.. But Im sure you understand what I am talking about...
http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/09/16/synastry-studies-the-twelfth-house-and-the-double-inconjunct/#comment-1201


I have a few questions for you..
1. Is it a secret?
2. Do you hide your feelings from her?

I would love to discuss this privately with you, I would really like to know your side of it, and how having Leo in the 12th is....

Ps... My Leo stellium is also in your 12th... lol

Thank you for your interpretation, Lion o ness! Your interpretation hits the nail with the emotional part of it and I would love to have a discussion about this with you. You can send me a PM if you'd like. We might have some things to share, haha.

[lenartz]

I have a few questions for you..
1. Is it a secret?
2. Do you hide your feelings from her?

I forgot to answer these.

Is it a secret? Yes and no. But for the most part, yes, in her part. She is very good at keeping me hidden, haha. Nobody knows her side of the story. However, I am the type of person who talks nonstop about a person of interest, so in that sense, my feelings for her are no secret. But the only people who know about our "relationship" are my closest friends and confidantes. Which leads me to your next question.

Do I hide my feelings from her? Surprisingly enough, I do in a sense. I frankly told her that I loved her (I think this is because of my Gemini sun, lol) and she didn't believe me. There is a part of me that, like you say, I doesn't understand why. She is very empathetic and highly sensitive and I know for a fact that she can't "feel" my emotions. I have a reason for thinking this. There is something mysterious about us. Like, both of us are very good judge of people, but we both can't figure each other out. It's quite frustrating, I must say.

[Lion o ness]

Thats neptune messing with you.. Neptune rules the 12th.. Even though ur 12th is in Leo its still influenced by neptune...

Also the planet person is suspicious of the house person,which is why she doesnt believe you. Im in the same boat, which is what caused me and my guy to stop seeing each other... btw its been over for a year.. but we are still in full contact with each other... We talk more now than when we did when we were seeing each other... We are hummm.... Platonic Lovers.. Make sense? Like i said we can not severe the tie...

[lenartz]

Thats neptune messing with you.. Neptune rules the 12th.. Even though ur 12th is in Leo its still influenced by neptune...

Also the planet person is suspicious of the house person,which is why she doesnt believe you. Im in the same boat, which is what caused me and my guy to stop seeing each other... btw its been over for a year.. but we are still in full contact with each other... We talk more now than when we did when we were seeing each other... We are hummm.... Platonic Lovers.. Make sense? Like i said we can not severe the tie...


Haha, Neptune is very annoying, no? This girl and I have known each other for a year and I still see her in a rose-colored goggles. She shows me a side of her that is the opposite of what she is to other people. I'm not sure which to believe because I am truly dumbfounded when I hear other people describe her.

Also... can you tell me if you see anything that points toward obsession in my part? I don't quite understand it. It's been a year and while I know I have some personal attachment to her, I don't understand why I'm so obsessed with her. She doesn't share the same obsession with me though, I don't think, unless she is unaware of it (we never talk about love and intimacy with each other)... since from what I've read, when Venus is in another person's 12th house, the 12th house person will feel insecure and confused by the Venus person. :/

[Lion o ness]

Pluto is obsession..

In your composite you have moon conjunct pluto in scoprio which rules pluto... (same with me..lol)
plus the 12th I think adds some obsessions..


You see her differently because of the 12th... You see her "higher self" so to speak, this is who she is with you... But not others.. Its a private side of her.. But keep in mind you still may not see it clearly bc of neptune...

[lenartz]

Pluto is obsession..

In your composite you have moon conjunct pluto in scoprio which rules pluto... (same with me..lol)
plus the 12th I think adds some obsessions..


You see her differently because of the 12th... You see her "higher self" so to speak, this is who she is with you... But not others.. Its a private side of her.. But keep in mind you still may not see it clearly bc of neptune...

Haha, well don't we have a lot in common!? I am intrigued by this. Except you already experienced it and I am still familiarizing myself with all of this.

Anyways, I am confused a little by the composite. These aspects (Moon conjunct Pluto, Venus square Pluto... etc), are they felt by both of the individuals or one person feels it more than the other?

[Veronica]

Veronica have you been the planet person hitting someones 12th? Because I have read that the planet person is really suspicious of the house person.

I do sort of feel the suspicious, he felt it more.. that I do know... He is really paranoid when it comes to me.... lol...

I feel more, like I owe him something... but I do also feel that I can see right through him... I know what he's feeling.. sometimes I think he even knows... But that may be neptune... Lots of neptune connections also..

I was the planet person, he was the House person my moon and Ascendant fell on his 12... house His Saturn also fell on my 12th... I honestly don't know how he feels ... and I don't know if he was ever clear about the way I was with him but... I have this " Feeling", " Intuition" and I don't want to sound delusional.. but I think he still thinks about me, and I think he knows I still think about him... I did... have some strange ESP occurrences with this person while venus was retrograde as well...

Lioness did any of your planets fell on his southnode.. I've read southnode connections in synastry also indicate Karmic Debt.. to the planet person.

[Lion o ness]

I was the planet person, he was the House person my moon and Ascendant fell on his 12... house His Saturn also fell on my 12th... I honestly don't know how he feels ... and I don't know if he was ever clear about the way I was with him but... I have this " Feeling", " Intuition" and I don't want to sound delusional.. but I think he still thinks about me, and I think he knows I still think about him... I did... have some strange ESP occurrences with this person while venus was retrograde as well...

Lioness did any of your planets fell on his southnode.. I've read southnode connections in synastry also indicate Karmic Debt.. to the planet person.

Ohh yeah everything falls in my 12th... lol.. his sun,mercury, mars dsc, SN.. Ceres, Pallas, Vertex, vesta.... his venus in my 10th his moon in my 9th conjunct my neptune (my chart ruler)
his mercury conjuncts my asc (his chart ruler)
His SN conjuncts my Asc but on the 12th house side.. Also my Eros conjuncts his SN..

[lenartz]

I was the planet person, he was the House person my moon and Ascendant fell on his 12... house His Saturn also fell on my 12th... I honestly don't know how he feels ... and I don't know if he was ever clear about the way I was with him but... I have this " Feeling", " Intuition" and I don't want to sound delusional.. but I think he still thinks about me, and I think he knows I still think about him... I did... have some strange ESP occurrences with this person while venus was retrograde as well...

This is exactly how it is with me, lol. Not knowing how she feels, her sending mixed signals, me being forced to accept the ambiguity of our relationship. And despite all of this, my "intuition" is telling me that she sees me as something more, otherwise she wouldn't try, blah. It also makes me feel delusional. XD

[Lion o ness]

Veronica can you explain how he confused you, and what you didnt understand about him. Over all how you felt about him, how he made you feel...

Which of your planets were in his 12th? What sign?



lenartz Im signed into yahoo...

[lenartz]

lenartz Im signed into yahoo...

Have you accepted my request? I don't seem to see you online. :/

[Lion o ness]

I didnt get the request

[lenartz]

Oh, you should try adding me then.

crescentxinlays.

[Lion o ness]

try me again... lol

[Veronica]

Veronica can you explain how he confused you, and what you didnt understand about him. Over all how you felt about him, how he made you feel...

Which of your planets were in his 12th? What sign?



lenartz Im signed into yahoo...

How he made me feel... hmmm a very rare feeling I have with most people truly happy, and I had soo much fun around... ( They were jupiter-sun/moon cross aspects involved.)

I dunno, its the house person who feels confused about the planet person because the planet person is activating their house... His saturn fell on my 12 house although he made me happy, it also made me I dunno worried cause deep down I felt it would all go away soon.. His Saturn in Gemini fell on my 12th house.. My Moon in Cancer fell on his 12th house which also conjucts his South Node.. and opposes his NN.. maybe he owes me something.. But I doubt I will get it.. we aren't on speaking or anything terms nowdays.. it was a shame there was something about this person, that was past looks, intellect etc.. that really got my attention, and I was always upbeat and happy as friends, you know that weird phenomena that happens that you like someone, no questions asked you can't even explain why, you feel drawn to them.. Also now that I think about my planets affecting him on his 12th house well, I think
he was intuitive & yet @ the same time confused... I think it get to that point when 12th house is involved you perceive things strong that you think you know ( house person) but then you get so caught up and confused that you end up knowing nothing @ all.. I think for him it got to the part where he actually got confused, and assumed things in which he based his actions that were really detrimental in the end.. I still have this crazy feeling Iam not dead in his mind he misses the friendship..

[Veronica]

try me again... lol

Do your planets fall on his 12?

[Wames]

This is a really good discussion and thanks for the article pertaining to the twelfth house, lioness.

Veronica, I can relate to what you are talking about. I'm going through something similar with someone I am no longer on speaking terms with too. I am confused by it all but I am trying to grow from this experience that I had with him. His jupiter and saturn (in libra) fall into my 12th house. And my mars (in virgo) and pluto (in libra) fall into his 12th. I think we both became suspicious of each other and it brought out our own insecurities at times. Nevertheless, we couldn't stop seeing each other no matter our differences. Our venuses conjuncted each other's north nodes. But I'm afraid we might have met each other at the wrong time to really pursue it any further. I really miss his energy though. :(