Chelsea V Aston Villa

[Rohan]

Dear Goca,

We have an intresting match on 30th Sept.

Match details:

Chelsea v Aston Villa
Date: 30/09/2006
Venue: London
K/0: 15:00

Chelsea home kit: Blue
Aston villa away Kit: White

Asc: Capricorn 05 41’


Asc: Capricorn: Gray, black
Saturn: Dark greens, browns and grays and also black
Saturn in: Leo: Yellow


Dec: Cancer: Silver
Dec. Lord Moon: white and light yellowish colors and gray. ... In addition light blue and sea green belong to the sign of Cancer.
Moon in Capricorn: Gray, black

Which team should assign the Asc?

Any suggestions?

Regards,
Rohan Joshi

[fensi88]

Because, Moon is synonym for light and Sa is synonym for dark, I would asign Aston Villa with DSC, and Chelsea with ASC.

[Rohan]

Dear Goca,

In Chelsea V Aston Villa chart Saturn is under 5 degree of 8th house Cusp so we consider Saturn in the 7th house. So we find Dec. Lord in the Asc. and the Asc. Lord Saturn in the Dec.

Moon the Dec. Lord is 3 degree from Asc. Cusp so obviously has more impact.

How do you interpret this and is this have major impact on the result?

Regards,
Rohan Joshi

[fensi88]

Rohan, I do not know for sure. Sa is under 5 degrees of 8 house cusp, so we consider it as in 8 house. My result of accidental dignities is
Sa=6
Moon=13
But because Moon is in detriment and "in hands of enimy" I think this match has potential for drawn.

[Rohan]

Goca, there is always difference in accidental Dignities. I calculated like this:

If there is any mistake please suggest.

Saturn: Moon:

8th house: -2 In the Ascendant: +5
Direct: +4 Moon decreasing in light: -2
Oriental: +2 Free from combustion and beams:+5
Free from combustion and Sun's beams: +5
Total: +9 Total: +8


Essential Dignities:

Saturn: Leo 21 19


Sun’s Triplicity
Jupiter’s Term
Face of Mars
Detriment
Peregrine

Moon: Capricorn 8 46


Venus’s Triplicity
Mercury’s Term
Jupiter’s Face
Detriment
Peregrine


Moon is Detriment and peregrine but Jupiter is placed in the 10th house. It will strengthen the winning chances of Asc. Don’t you think so?

Should we give that much importance to Moon only?

Regards,
Rohan Joshi

[fensi88]

You are right, I made mistake. Here are new results:

Saturn:
8th house: -2
Direct: +4
Oriental: +2 Free from combustion and beams:+5
swift in motion +2
Total: +11

Moon: 1st house +5
Moon increasing in light: +2(until 180 from Sun(separate) it is waxing)
Free from combustion and Sun's beams: +5
swift in motion +2
total:14

Essential dignities do not change much both planets get
-10 (peregrine and in detriment).
So, I still think this will be drawn.

Moon is Detriment and peregrine but Jupiter is placed in the 10th house. It will strengthen the winning chances of Asc. Don’t you think so?


Maybe you are right, but I am not sure, because Ju is not ruler of ASC or DSC and as I understand Frawley pay attention only on rulers and planets in 1st and 7th, not in another houses and not on aspects .

[fensi88]

As you see, Ju was not so important, and as chart said, match ended drawn , 1:1!

[Rohan]

Dear Goca,

You were absolutely correct again. Congratulations. The match was drawn 1:1

Here we have other match as well that ended drawn. The match was started same time with almost same chart like Chelsea V Aston villa. It was a draw due to a last miniute goal by Man.City. So sad for Everton isn't it? they were dominating the game till the end. Hard luck for them.
Everton v Manchester City
Date: 30/09/2006
Venue: Liverpool
K/0: 15:00

So we have success in two matches but intrestingly the third match which was also started same time wasn't a draw.

Charlton Athletic v Arsenal
Date: 30/09/2006
Venue: London
K/o: 15:00

The match Arsenal won by 2:1

strange isn't it?

Any ideas about that?

Regards,
Rohan Joshi

[fensi88]

You know that philosophy answer: Chart reveal potential epilogue, but that not mean that it will be exact in all cases. Free will and outside circumstances in some cases can change epiloque.
Example: In some hospital at same time were born 2 boys. One that lives in town and one that lives in village. That boy how lives in town become famous basket ball player, and that boy who lives in village did not becaome famous. Why? This boy why lives in town has near his house sport hall and it was no problem for him to go afternoon and practise basket ball. But that boy in village has different jobs in village and did not even think about basket ball. So, same chart, different result.

[Rohan]

Dear Goca,

You are right. It happens.

Okay. We had a fascinating match on 2nd October. Match detail:

Watford V Fulham

Date: 02/10/2006
Venue: Watford
K/0: 20:00

The match was high scoring and ended drawn 3:3.

Goal Scorers & Times:
WATFORD 23' M King
WATFORD 46' A Young
FULHAM 71' B McBride
FULHAM 83' H Helguson
FULHAM 87' D Francis Own Goal: Yes
WATFORD 89' A Young
Half Time Score:
1 - 0


The most noticeable fact is that 4 goals scored in last 20 min. time.

Any views or suggestions? I think you must have. Please share.

Yes, Goca I am now able to predict results with some accuracy. You taught me some valuable lessons. Thanks for that. Can you tell me about goal timing? How we able to predict the goal time?

Do you have foundation date of New Zealand, Australia and West Indies? I want to cast their natal chart.

Thanks again.

Regards,
Rohan Joshi

[fensi88]

For national charts go to this link:

http://www.dominantstar.com//tra_nationspage.htm

About timing of goals I will tell you in another post, later.

[fensi88]

If you want to predict the time when goals will be scored you have to add minute by minute on k/o time and see if there are some change regarding the chart for k/o time. But problem is that not every change
means goal, but every change is possibility for goal.
So what we have here:
ASC=23Ta38
At 8:23 Ve, ruler of ASC change house, from 6 it enter 5 house!
At 8:45 we have change of cusp sign on axis 5/11
For goals in second half it is important to know add time and pause time exactly. For example goals scored in 61min may mean 45 min 1st half + for example 2 minutes add time + 15 minutes pause +16 minutes od 2nd half
So, at 9:28 (which is time for goal at 71min) we have change of cusp sign on axis 6/12
At 9:39(83min) Pl, modern ruler of DSC for k/o time, from 7house enters 6 house!
At 9:43(87min) only change that I can see is that ASC/DSC axis is in tight square with Nodes.
At 9:48 (which is near the time for goal at 89min) we have change of cusp sign on axis 3/9 house.
Because there must past 4min for change one degree in some cases you have goal few minutes after some change.

[Rohan]

Dear Goca,

Thanks Very much. I will practice the method in forthcoming matches.

Regards,
Rohan Joshi