the TRUE purpose of the planets according to Edgar Cayce

[Anonymous]

Edgar Cayce (www.near-death.com (http://www.near-death.com))

According to Cayce's revelations, our experience relates more to the entire solar system and not just three-dimensional life on earth. Cayce stated that each solar system is like a university with many dimensions of learning available and through which we must travel. Our solar system has nine planets which are physical representations of nine afterlife realms of which earth represents the third.

The afterlife realms are associated with the planets of our solar system. This does not mean souls actually live on the surface of planets as we do on earth, but rather, souls live in fourth and fifth level afterlife realms represented physically by the planets.

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[Anonymous]

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The planets are vibratory centers that correspond to music, tones and color in a vast and orderly universe. We are aware of them in our consciousness, much like recollections of our experiences or lessons in our memories. It is to be remembered, Mr. Cayce said, that our individual wills are more important than the influences of the stars. Nevertheless, we are influenced. It is necessary to pass through "the eight vibrations [dimensions]" as stages in development to unite with the Creator. The following is a brief description of the planets and some of their effects. Be prepared for a few surprises!

Mercury is associated with high mental abilities. A mercurial soul is a gifted soul and needs to watch for self-aggrandizement or his abilities will be merely stumbling stones upon his path. Mercury brings understanding, specifically the understanding of the other spheres.
Mercury is connected to the pineal gland and the color indigo.

Venus is indeed the planet of love. Sympathy, the alleviating of hardships, the seeking of love, beauty and song are some Venusian influences. Beauty, either natural or man-made, will move these individuals; furthermore, there is a desire to beautify the home. There is a strong attraction to the opposite sex.
Venus is associated with the thymus and the color green.

Mars may bring with it anger, impulsiveness, and a temper. Accidents may occur. Action and activity preclude any inclination to laziness. Stubbornness needs to be handled with patience and self-control. This entity may have an exalted opinion of himself, which is not necessarily bad. Mars is courageous.
Mars is connected with the adrenals and the color yellow.

Jupiter confers universality and ennoblement, turning one's attention to large groups of people or nations. It is expansive and may bless one with wealth, which includes a wealth of friends, a broad-mindedness, and the ability to consider others. Grand ideas and notions!
Jupiter is associated with the pituitary and the color violet.

Saturn is the big surprise. Far from indicating obstacles and restrictions, it represents changes! These may be sudden or violent changes and represent testing periods of endurance and patience. Projects and associations are started, but follow-through may be a problem! Saturnians need to learn persistence, says Cayce! A soul "banishes itself" to Saturn to begin anew, probably because the entity became stuck or fixed in some way. From here the entity was sent to Uranus, presumably to rebuild the will to make better future choices.
Saturn is connected to the gonads and the color red!

Uranus is the planet of extremes--and of the extremist! It gives an interest in the occult and psychic phenomena. "Moods and wonderments," says Cayce, "...when the entity is good, he can be very, very good, but when he is bad, he can be awful." A Uranian has times of smoothness and other times when "everything goes awry;" also, periods of ecstasy and depression. Thus, one's will and one's overall decisions to follow a path are important.
Uranus is associated with the thyroid and the color blue.

Neptune is the mystic planet. Neptune gives the urges to seek the unusual, the mystical, the "unseen" forces around us. Neptunians are drawn to water. They seem peculiar to others and are many times misunderstood. A love of mysteries can indeed be spiritual, but it can also be "of the sleuth or detective nature." Watch for confusion and hero worship! This is a good, kind soul who could positively affect others.
Neptune is connected to the reproductive cells of Leydig and the color orange.

Pluto was discussed by Cayce years before it was discovered! He had referred to Vulcan as well as to Septimus, the seventh planet from the earth. When Pluto was discovered, Cayce affirmed that Vulcan, or Septimus, was the same planet. Regeneration and a growth in consciousness is indicated, but an affliction brings self-centeredness. Beware of wrath and grudges, warned the sleeping Cayce, "stay attuned to the love force." Pluto represents spiritual growth and development of the soul and its influence is just now developing in the destiny of humanity.

[Shining Ray]

I have found Cayces work to be interesting, and yet the other views of psychics, don't always match. I was reading Sylvia Brown recently and I loved her take on the "Temple of Charts" because it does indeed relate to the work astrologers are doing down here.

Source of quote used: (http://www.psican.org/psychical/rpsychics1.htm)

Sylvia Brown believes her ability to communicate with the dead comes from God and genes; her grandmother and her son also have psychic ability. She was born and raised in Missouri and says her abilities first surfaced at age three. Sylvia believes in reincarnation and says that we all purposefully chart our lives before we undertake them. She says that with God's help, she assists folks in accessing the information on these "charts" and helps them achieve their goals. She believes she is a tool of God to help Him give the living the answers they seek and further do His work.

I am into all this at the moment, I go through phases. When she uses the words charts in her book, I assume Natal Charts, mainly because she has written a book on Astrology. For her involvement with Astrology and being a psychic I can relate to her work more. The Cayce readings are interesting I was recently reading them again through another book I was reading on reincarnation and Karma - by Penny Thorten and apparently the soul submerges itself into the Moons "consciousness" experiencing in an emotional and intellectual sense, our actions towards others. This was according Steiner and he doesn't isolate the spheres and all the planetary spheres are interrelated (form angles) The combined influence is brought down upon us. Sun-Saturn, Moon-Uranus etc. I like Sylvia's view that we are all being recorded right now, so I guess it means be mindful of our thoughts and actions because nothing goes unseen.

[lilllybelle]

Cayce said that you could tell which planet your soul had dwelled on in between your last incarnation and your current one by observing which planet makes the tightest applied conjunction to the MC in your natal chart.

[AquariusT]

Cayce said that you could tell which planet your soul had dwelled on in between your last incarnation and your current one by observing which planet makes the tightest applied conjunction to the MC in your natal chart.


Mercury is associated with high mental abilities. A mercurial soul is a gifted soul and needs to watch for self-aggrandizement or his abilities will be merely stumbling stones upon his path. Mercury brings understanding, specifically the understanding of the other spheres.
Mercury is connected to the pineal gland and the color indigo.


Hmm..well Mercury is right up there in my MC. I must admit my connection/communication with others,the universe, the afterlife, animals..etc. has always been strong.

[lilllybelle]

Mercury is the planet making the tighest applied conjuction to my MC for me as well. This makes a lot of sense for me because I've had a lot of mercurian type issues, and my chart is heavily influenced by mercury.
I remember feeling so relieved when I realized that I hadn't made a pit stop on saturn in between my last life and this one. Cayce's description of saturn sounded like pure hell.

[Shining Ray]

Cayce said that you could tell which planet your soul had dwelled on in between your last incarnation and your current one by observing which planet makes the tightest applied conjunction to the MC in your natal chart.

I will have to look at my chart for this, very interesting :smile:.

[AquaScorpio]

"Neptune is the mystic planet. Neptune gives the urges to seek the unusual, the mystical, the "unseen" forces around us. Neptunians are drawn to water. They seem peculiar to others and are many times misunderstood. A love of mysteries can indeed be spiritual, but it can also be "of the sleuth or detective nature." Watch for confusion and hero worship! This is a good, kind soul who could positively affect others.
Neptune is connected to the reproductive cells of Leydig and the color orange."

Neptune is the only thing near my MC, but it is a good 12 degrees away from it. This is very accurate, despite me not having strong Neptunian or Piscean influences in my chart. I am very drawn to the unusual or mystical things in life but also to science and such. It's strange that this description also describes my chart. Having Aquarius and Scorpio as the two major influences in my chart (they rule 7 of my planets) would go along with this description, especially the "love of spiritual mysteries" part. I would also say I'm a good, kind soul who brings positive energy to those around me, if only I could save some for myself =p

Thanks for the article, whoever you are.

[Shining Ray]

I am listening to Cayce readings on Astrology at the moment, he said my Saturn is a powerful mark of a Scientist, I never knew I was so matter of fact, I am Neptune too, with Uranian vibes in 3rd. Jupiter is nearer my M.C in 11th. Cayce believes in free will astrology. As I am listening there is a very nice reading on Saturn and the Mythical God Chronus and his ruling of time and he rules Chron-ology.

[lilllybelle]

I would like to emphasize that Cayce was talking about an applying conjunction not a seperating conjunction and that he didn't use any type of orb.

[AquaScorpio]

I would like to emphasize that Cayce was talking about an applying conjunction not a seperating conjunction and that he didn't use any type of orb.

How do you determine applying and seperating? I've heard it before but never knew what it meant. I would assume it's like when the two objects or planets or whatever are moving to each other or away from each other?

[athan]

How do you determine applying and seperating? I've heard it before but never knew what it meant. I would assume it's like when the two objects or planets or whatever are moving to each other or away from each other?

You are right AquaScorpio.
For instance Moon 10deg Taurus and Sun 13deg Virgo is an applying trine while Moon 15deg Taurus and Sun 13deg Virgo is a separating trine :happy:

[athan]

I remember feeling so relieved when I realized that I hadn't made a pit stop on saturn in between my last life and this one. Cayce's description of saturn sounded like pure hell.

Yes tell me about it!!!!
Saturn sits right on my MC...:devil:

[lilllybelle]

How do you determine applying and seperating? I've heard it before but never knew what it meant. I would assume it's like when the two objects or planets or whatever are moving to each other or away from each other?

Athan summed that one up pretty well. The only thing I would add is that it is the relationship of the faster moving planet to the slower moving planet that defines it as an applying or seperating aspect. For example, the moon is faster than the sun, so we would look at whether the moon is moving towards making an exact aspect to the sun or whether it has already made the exact aspect and is seperating. It's basically what Athan said.

[Ekim86]

Is there anything about the moon being the closest applying aspect to the MC? My moon isn't very far from it.

[vanila]

I have my Saturn conjunct MC at 3.23 degree...I have always felt this permanent restriction ....but I realize it now when I'm older and start studying ASTROLOGY...:biggrin:

[lilllybelle]

The main idea that Edgar Cayce was trying to put forth was planetary sojourns. You may or may not have a personality association with the planet you visited. I think the best thing to do would be to read some of Edgar Cayce's work on the subject. You'll understand the idea better if you read it for yourself. Plus, most of Cayce's work is very enjoyable to read!

[Haizea]

If the idea is that our previous life was like that....then I could believe mine was Saturnian, because I am one of those who really appreciates having been born in the time I was born, when we in general don't really have to work as hard as the huge majority had to in the past.

:)

[lilllybelle]

Though Cayce did write a lot of material about past lives, in the particular example I gave, he was talking where your soul goes in between lives.

[Haizea]

I understand now...I guess all this is just too difficult for me to comprehend. :pinched: :)

[Siinda]

Cayce said that you could tell which planet your soul had dwelled on in between your last incarnation and your current one by observing which planet makes the tightest applied conjunction to the MC in your natal chart.

I don't see how that would work with mine all my palents are in the opposite quarter pretty much. Otherwise I'm using a bad chart with bad notation.

Feel free to check and see if I'm wrong...(Beginner Botches reading again :P )

[Jesusistheway]

uranus is the closest to my MC. That would explain why I had a dream of being close to the planet uranus.

[07.Re]

I have Saturn conjunct the MC but it is separating...

[EJ53]

The only thing I would add is that it is the relationship of the faster moving planet to the slower moving planet that defines it as an applying or seperating aspect.

But, Cayce was referring to a planet/"angle point" conjunction......and presumably traditional astrology concepts (since modern astrology had not yet been sired by Alan Leo)......So the MC is the fastest mover here and is travelling towards the Ascendant......Thus, I think Cayce was referring to the first planet in our natal chart that would have made a conjunction with the MC......

For example, although I have Uranus at 29.45 degrees conjunct Gemini MC at 29.55 degrees.....the latter is separating from the former and moving towards (applying to) a conjunction with my Moon at 8.30 degrees of Cancer......so my last sojourn was on the Moon rather than Uranus.

[Note :- This means that Siinda's last sojourn was Mercury, since that's the first planet that the MC crossed after birth.)

[astrologer50]

How do you determine applying and seperating? I've heard it before but never knew what it meant. I would assume it's like when the two objects or planets or whatever are moving to each other or away from each other?

I really don't think you can just pick on planet and say, "that's me" in a nutshell, cos you are a combination of planets, Angles etc:love:

There are only three factors, but you have to have a way of knowing them.

1) Speed of the planets
2) Which planets is ahead, and which one is behind.

A simple example:

If two planets are close to conjunction, if the one "ahead" is moving slower, the aspect is applying.

If two planets are close to conjunction, if the one "behind" is moving slower, the aspect is separating.

There are some general rules about the speed of planets, but retrograde motion makes this a bit complicated for all true planets. Only the Sun and Moon do not alternate between direct and retrograde motion

[astrologer50]

My favourite for past lives is Brian Weiss a professional hypnotherapist can written many many books. Check out these links..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN54I8vpdww
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPXER6EB4_w
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Weiss
http://www.brianweiss.com/

Self hypnosis regression http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppT5_tAUVUk&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppT5_tAUVUk&feature=related) unfortunately, in 2parts, so in deaply relaxed state you need to click on 2nd video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNqmnAIkoXs&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNqmnAIkoXs&NR=1)
Remember at the end of second Youtube, to count from 1to 5 to bring your consciousness to full awakening – 5meaings wide awake, alert and refreshed.

[piercethevale]

Self hypnosis regression? Very risky biz!...not recommended by anyone I trust.
You can leave yourself open to all sorts of unwanted influences.
It's best to find a 'Regression Coach/Hypnotist aligned with spiritual practices/archetypes you truly trust and have confidence in.
There are also a few reputable clairvoyants capable of this for a person. Clarisse Conner is one I know of and trust She assisted me to a proven satisfaction...research demonstrated that she was correct in what she told me about some of my past lives...quite amazing what see can see about the past. [Stay away from Sylvia Brown...she ain't worth two cents.].


...ps. BK Goswami of the Western Hemisphere Krishna Order/Org. [ISKCON] is a known spiritual guide. I can't speak from personal experience about the man...but to any that know of Him it might be a consideration. He preforms this service [for a donation or a fee] at some of His retreats that are open to the general public. ptv

[astrologer50]

Self hypnosis regression? Very risky biz!...not recommended by anyone I trust.
You can leave yourself open to all sorts of unwanted influences.
Not really, I've tried these and no way does it take you into a state that you cannot return from or experience it's deep relaxation effects.

Professional regression can take 2-4hours and this is only 20mins -- so you decide. All hypnotherapys is self hypnotherapy anyway, it's just 'guided' by another person.

[flea]

I have a tight applying conjucntion with venus. Art is a big part of my life, and I do like the colour green!!

I kinda think with past lives that if you were supposed to know them you would remember then. I do think they can be a distraction from living this life, so from that point of view a tricky place to delve into. Though no doubt they can be important in some instances to find out a specific past life situation that helps you see it in this life. There is so much information from past lives how do you know you are getting the relevant stuff for your journey in this life?

You can pretty much see what your problems were previously by what is going on in this life. So I concentrate on where I am now....or at least try to.

The sojourn on venus I would understand differently... as a kind of primer before this life so you kind of get a head start on your life purpose.

FleaXXX

[piercethevale]

I kinda think with past lives that if you were supposed to know them you would remember then. I do think they can be a distraction from living this life, so from that point of view a tricky place to delve into. Though no doubt they can be important in some instances to find out a specific past life situation that helps you see it in this life. There is so much information from past lives how do you know you are getting the relevant stuff for your journey in this life?

You can pretty much see what your problems were previously by what is going on in this life. So I concentrate on where I am now....or at least try to.

FleaXXX[/QUOTE]


...Well Said!

[flea]

cheers pierce..... I have wondered and fanticised tho lol.... I got over that.

FleaXXX

[astrologer50]

I kinda think with past lives that if you were supposed to know them you would remember then. I do think they can be a distraction from living this life, so from that point of view a tricky place to delve into. Though no doubt they can be important in some instances to find out a specific past life situation that helps you see it in this life. There is so much information from past lives how do you know you are getting the relevant stuff for your journey in this life?

You can pretty much see what your problems were previously by what is going on in this life. So I concentrate on where I am now....or at least try to.

FleaXXX

If you were going the hypnotherapy regression route, your subconscious mind would guide you to a lifetime that has some relevance to you this lifetime. Being a Professional Hypnotherapist myself I can say that is true. Perhaps some talent, creativity or simply to effect some healing. Like astrology, hypnotherapy has different branches to, like regression.......

I would love to do this to help cure me with migraine. I think I must have been killed via head injury or something. This is the usual usage of regression to effect some major healing :love:

[piercethevale]

If you were going the hypnotherapy regression route, your subconscious mind would guide you to a lifetime that has some relevance to you this lifetime. Being a Professional Hypnotherapist myself I can say that is true. Perhaps some talent, creativity or simply to effect some healing. Like astrology, hypnotherapy has different branches to, like regression.......

I would love to do this to help cure me with migraine. I think I must have been killed via head injury or something. This is the usual usage of regression to effect some major healing :love:


...Well Said![/QUOTE]


...That quote was by 'Flea'...I simply said..."Well, said"
Interestingly, I went to the Ananda Sangha [SRF...Parmahansa Yoganandas' organization] this past Sunday where the 'Sermon' was on past lives...the message the 'Minister' gave was the very same..."What's important is this life!"
Personally, I know of 7 of my previous incarnations. I would not have been able to handle the info at an earlier age...one must be spiritually mature enough to properly understand such info...I was past Fifty years old when I found these out.
"The Lessons [info] are there when you need them"...quote Ram Das, aka Richard Alpert.
If you are in need of such information...it will come to you.

[astrologer50]

...That quote was by 'Flea'...I simply said..."Well, said"
Interestingly, I went to the Ananda Sangha [SRF...Parmahansa Yoganandas' organization] this past Sunday where the 'Sermon' was on past lives...the message the 'Minister' gave was the very same..."What's important is this life!"
Personally, I know of 7 of my previous incarnations. I would not have been able to handle the info at an earlier age...one must be spiritually mature enough to properly understand such info...I was past Fifty years old when I found these out.
"The Lessons [info] are there when you need them"...quote Ram Das, aka Richard Alpert.
If you are in need of such information...it will come to you.[/QUOTE]

How then did you experience these, meditiation or regression? How do you feel it has helped you this lifetime?

Synchronisity is wonderful, divine timings, when the student is ready the teacher will arrive...

[piercethevale]

...That quote was by 'Flea'...I simply said..."Well, said"
Interestingly, I went to the Ananda Sangha [SRF...Parmahansa Yoganandas' organization] this past Sunday where the 'Sermon' was on past lives...the message the 'Minister' gave was the very same..."What's important is this life!"
Personally, I know of 7 of my previous incarnations. I would not have been able to handle the info at an earlier age...one must be spiritually mature enough to properly understand such info...I was past Fifty years old when I found these out.
"The Lessons [info] are there when you need them"...quote Ram Das, aka Richard Alpert.
If you are in need of such information...it will come to you.

How then did you experience these, meditiation or regression? How do you feel it has helped you this lifetime?

Synchronisity is wonderful, divine timings, when the student is ready the teacher will arrive...[/QUOTE]

...years ago I was given a glimsp of all my previous faces...this was while in meditation with the intercession of Rama...Hare Rama.
The clairvoyant, Clarisse Conner is the one whom has assisted me in 'zeroing in' on specifics...she is a remarkable 'seer' in that dept...the only clairvoyant besides Edgar Cayce that I believe in...and she'll be the first to admit that Cayce is in "a whole 'nother league."
I know of an incarnation in the time of Ahkenaton [as an Astrologer], one in the Middle East at the time of Jesus' sojourn, one in those early days of Britain some refer to as "Arthurian"*...I was my own great uncle in early Quaker Pennsylvannia and in my last life I was in India, a pious Hindu businessman.

*...yes, there was an "King Arthur" and a "Round Table"...but unfortunately the Akhasic is very restricted access for these particular records...I don't quite understand why...but very few are allowed in this particular section of the "Hall of Records"...
Clarisse told me that Arthurs' bones were "ground" and spread throughout Britain...apparently for some sort of 'Spiritual Rite'.
May God continue to watch over Britain!

...as far as what this info has done to help me...It has given me great understanding, confidence and resolve as to why I am the one to present the material I have been dissemenating here on the net in Astrological web-sites .
...but if this info had come too soon it may have been disasterous to my psyche!

[piercethevale]

...Also. in addition...I found out that my mother and I are now in our 6th incarnation together, with her as my mother each time.
I know of one other time, specifically, and that was in the incarnation in "Arthurian Britain".
Had this info come at an earlier age I would not have understood the reason accompanying. [Reasons for which I must keep private...and shared with only my most spiritually advanced assosciates.]
She and I are some kind of 'Team'...We re-incarnate together more for a purpose rather than from some Karmic debt to one another...at least that's how I've come to understand it.
I had to get to a certain point in the timeline of my life before that could be revealed to me. It wouldn't have made as much sense at any earlier time and it would have messed up the outcome of some events...in all likelyhood.
She was the first person to give me instruction in meditation and yoga...in a sense she is my first guru!
She also is a great student of Edgar Cayce and she had learned yoga technique from studying Cayce...[how's that for a 'tie-in' to the main subject here?! ...Cayce Rocks!]

I Bow To The Divine Mother...OM!


...So, as to for trying to ascertain past lives...I hate to say it... but..."Be careful what you ask for...you might get it!"

[R4VEN]

I kinda think with past lives that if you were supposed to know them you would remember then. I do think they can be a distraction from living this life, so from that point of view a tricky place to delve into. Though no doubt they can be important in some instances to find out a specific past life situation that helps you see it in this life. There is so much information from past lives how do you know you are getting the relevant stuff for your journey in this life?

You can pretty much see what your problems were previously by what is going on in this life. So I concentrate on where I am now....or at least try to.


I pretty much concur with flea and PTV on this one.

Have been having regular sessions with a (very, very gifted & experienced) kinesiologist, who is also a qualified astrologer. In order to `find' the origins of my `money issues' she had to take my body back to 9 past lives before this one (which is where the issues began to be crystalised), balance the issue in that lifetime, then move on to the next life and do the same thing. Now, as she was doing this I had no awareness of what/how the past lives were about, and nor did she, and nor were we meant to. As flea said, a distraction. However - as she brought my body back to the Now I became aware that in the 8 lives between that one and this one I have tended to isolate myself from the `flow' - usually by getting myself incarcerated, or else choosing isolated religious service. I do not want to know these details, but having said that, the knowledge of this which I intuited has been useful in identifying a similar tendency in this lifetime - along with this, a deep-seated fear of Authority. In other words, if I am not part of the flow of love/money/abundance, then I'll take myself out of the loop.

I agree also about the importance of timing in learning this stuff. I now realise that I have had to do what I have done so far, and in the way which I have done it, and then gain enough wisdom to have a Bigger Picture view of all of this before I could take it all in and look at it in a pragmatic and detached way. When I was younger I would have wallowed in the guilts and shoulds, and that would have been a complete waste of energy.

[07.Re]

But, Cayce was referring to a planet/"angle point" conjunction......and presumably traditional astrology concepts (since modern astrology had not yet been sired by Alan Leo)......So the MC is the fastest mover here and is travelling towards the Ascendant......Thus, I think Cayce was referring to the first planet in our natal chart that would have made a conjunction with the MC......

For example, although I have Uranus at 29.45 degrees conjunct Gemini MC at 29.55 degrees.....the latter is separating from the former and moving towards (applying to) a conjunction with my Moon at 8.30 degrees of Cancer......so my last sojourn was on the Moon rather than Uranus.

[Note :- This means that Siinda's last sojourn was Mercury, since that's the first planet that the MC crossed after birth.)

EJ, I have Saturn conjunct my MC, but it is retrograde. Now, the next planet that will conjunct the MC would be Venus, but she is 3 houses away. Is this correct?

[EJ53]

EJ, I have Saturn conjunct my MC, but it is retrograde. Now, the next planet that will conjunct the MC would be Venus, but she is 3 houses away. Is this correct?

That's correct 07.Re.......(assuming I am right about what Cayce was saying).

[07.Re]

That's correct 07.Re.......(assuming I am right about what Cayce was saying).

Thanks EJ... I strongly identify with what it says re Venus but I also think it has to do with so much Libran energy in my first house.

[starnart]

I think it is so interesting in Cayce's book of Astrology, that he says we choose our birth time and can enter into the infant body anytime in a three day period after the birth. When asked how this was possible, Cayce replied that the universal spirit keeps the baby alive until the exact time for the soul to enter!:surprised: