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tabby
09-11-2006, 03:00 PM
Hello everybody!

I'm posting from Ankara, Turkey and am new to the forum. It's a great one. I've been interested in astrology for quite a long time now, but I'm totally ignorant of horary astrology. I'd like to post a question if anybody would be kind enough to answer and I know the timing of the question is important, so here it goes:

Will I have a healthy child by my boyfriend?

Time of question: 17:57 pm. Ankara, Turkey (I'm not sure whether we're using daylight saving time though :(

My birth info: 22 May 1968, 7:15 am, Ankara, Turkey
My boyfriend: 20 September 1965, 8:10 am, Surrey, England

Thanks a lot in advance. Will be waiting for the answer :)

Arian Maverick
09-11-2006, 08:39 PM
Tabby,

I was about to upload your horary chart to the forums, but I am not sure of the date you asked this question ;)

In the mean time, I have uploaded your individual natal charts and synastry chart although this is unlikely to reveal an answer to this specific question...

Tabby - Natal Chart:

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/173/tabbynatalchartif7.th.png (http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tabbynatalchartif7.png)

Boyfriend - Natal Chart:

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5349/tabbysboyfriendnatalchartcf5.th.png (http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tabbysboyfriendnatalchartcf5.png)

Synastry Chart:

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/2910/tabbyandboyfriendsynastrychartvl2.th.png (http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tabbyandboyfriendsynastrychartvl2.png )

Arian Maverick

Summery Joy
09-11-2006, 09:06 PM
Apart from the date missing, you asked a complex question. Will I have healthy child by my boyrfriend? I dunno. If the answer is no, I won't know whether it's "no, you won't have a child with him" or "no, the child you'll have with him will not be healthy".

However, I'm willing to give it a look if you confirm the date of the horary. Was it the day you made the post?

tabby
09-12-2006, 07:20 AM
Sorehearted and Arian Maverick,

I am really honored to get replies from you both as I've been following your posts for some time! Thanks a lot for taking an interest :) You guys are great. Indeed, it was the date I asked the question, 11 September 2006. I will also rephrase the question as "Will I have a child by my boyfriend?, so it is more specific.

Maverick, thanks a lot for the charts. I've done quite some work on the synastry of our relationship and we seem to have both pretty powerful connections and some scary squares! My Saturn falling in his 7th worries me, can that mean it will delay marriage? I've also looked at the composite chart, and it is very intense in the 12th house, with the Sun, Venus, Jupiter and Mercury there. Sun is conjunct Jupiter, so that's a bit of a relief, but still the interpretations I've read don't speak highly of a 12th house composite sun
:( Also in the composite the mighty Saturn is in the 8th house, and I'm again worried that this might bring about restriction issues re physical intimacy. Do you have any ideas about these? Sorehearted, I know you also work with the Davidson charts, and astrodienst gives two versions, corrected and uncorrected, so I wasn't able to decide which one to choose, let alone interpret it. Would it be possible to get a synastry and/or composite interpretation from you guys? Or is it asking for too much? We are going through a rough period at the moment, possibly due to transit Uranus and Pluto affecting my b/f's natal, so I would appreciate any help that I can get :)

Sorehearted, I'm quite impressed that you have a quote from our great leader, Kemal Atatürk, on your blog :) I've been to Egypt btw, and was truly enchanted with it.

Cheers,

tabby
09-12-2006, 08:05 AM
Hi, it's me, the confused tabby again :) As I'm not sure exactly how the horary works, it just occurred to me that since I rephrased the original question, a new date and time might be necessary. How about this: My question: "Will I have a child by my boyfriend?"
Date: 12 September 2006, Time: 11:04 am Ankara Turkey

Sorry, I don't mean to confuse you guys :(
Cheers,

Arian Maverick
09-12-2006, 07:39 PM
Hopefully, sorehearted can distinguish these two things from the chart: 1) if you will have a child and 2) if this child's father will be your boyfriend.

Random Notes:


Jupiter is conjunct the Ascendant
The North Node is almost exactly conjunct the fifth house cusp (children in your future?)
The chart ruler (Mars) is in the sign of its detriment (Libra)
Mars is separating from a conjunction with Mercury (eighth house and eleventh house ruler) and applying to a trine with Chiron (not traditionally used in horary astrology); it does not connect with any other planets
The fifth house cusp is in a fertile sign
The ruler of the fifth house cusp conjuncts the Ascendant!
The moon is in a fertile sign in the seventh house (associated with a partner)

Some indicators in this chart seem to indicate a yes answer, but I am uncertain what to make of Saturn's square aspect to Jupiter--especially because Jupiter is applying to Saturn.

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/9852/willihaveachildbymyboyfriendhorarychartiu9.png (http://imageshack.us)

Arian Maverick

tabby
09-13-2006, 05:45 AM
Thanks a lot Maverick! I'll be waiting for sorehearted's reply eagerly as well.

Cheers

Summery Joy
09-15-2006, 11:50 AM
Tammy,

I'm gald you liked my web space. I gotta tell you though, I've quoted Mustafa Kamel, not Kemal Atatürk. Kemal Atatürk was an Turkish leader who lead the revolution of Turkey and moved the Turkish culture in a whole new directon. Mustafa Kamel, whom I have quoted on the space, was an Egyptian leader who fought against the British occupation of Egypt, but died long before Egypt ever got a true independence.


Now, about your horary, I'm sorry but I have yet another question;

When you first thought of the 1st question "Will I have a healthy child....?", was your main concern that you have a child or have a healthy one? Because, if you were originally just wondering about having a baby and you just sort of phrased the question that way, we can still use the original chart even if you have revised the phrasing of the question.

But, if you were actually originally wondering about having a HEALTHY child, then we will use the second chart.

Which is it?

tabby
09-15-2006, 03:25 PM
Sorehearted,

Sorry to be troubling you this much :( In fact, as I was reading more on horary, I discovered that the horary chart should be cast the first time you have asked yourself this question. If this is the case, then, neither of the charts would have a meaning cos I've asked this question to myself many many times before! In that case, we can safely forget about it! Yet, if that's not a problem, we could focus on "Will I have a child with my boyfriend?" and not emphasize the health aspect, cos I guess if the answer to this question is Yes, then another horary for the health aspect can be asked. Am I right about this? So I guess we can use the first date.

Thanks a lot for putting in the effort :)

Summery Joy
09-20-2006, 10:15 PM
According to teh 1st chart, you're signified by Saturn and the child is signified by Mercury.

I don't see application or collecetion/translation of light. I'm afraid that's a no, at least not any time soon. However, I see that the final lunar aspect is a trine with Mercury, so I suppose that means that eventually you'll have a baby, although not necessarily with your current boyfriend.

tabby
09-21-2006, 07:49 AM
Thanks a lot sorehearted :) Let's hope it all works out for the best.