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08-19-2005, 03:16 PM
Ok, a new question...
Is there a romantic connection? (All of my questions are romantic related!)
With AS 20Li42, I am Venus... and I am in the 12th house. The other person is Mars in 11Ta55 in the 7th house. Why is the moon on the cusp of the 4th house? What does that mean?
What aspects are most important for the question?
I'm grateful to your attention and skills!
08-20-2005, 01:25 PM
I am sorry to see that nobody has yet had a go at interpreting your horary. I feel the same, as nobody has tried with my questions either. I have looked at your post a few times but have waited until now to respond in the hope that somebody with more experience in horary would post back to you. As nobody has done, I will give it a go. Please note that I am not experienced in the technicalities of horary and I am only learning, my knowledge is very basic. However, I'll try to get my intuition into gear and see what I can come up with for you. At best, my interpretation will bear some significance, if not, then at least someone has posted back to you! :wink: (I know how frustrating it is when no one does).
I see that you are represented by Venus, as Libra is rising. This places you in the early degrees of Libra in the 12th House. Venus shows your romanticism and desire for love, which is given great strength in Libra as Venus is 'at home' in this sign. However, Venus is in the 12th House which makes me wonder whether you are keeping some aspect of your desire for romance hidden or secret, as Venus is based in the private domain of the world inside your head. Might it be that the object of your desire is not fully aware of how you feel about him? It would seem that your perception of this person is based largely in fantasy? I see that Mars, representing the other person is alienated in Taurus and is in the 7th House. Mars is not comfortable in Taurus, but Mars deposits to Venus, which is you, suggesting that you are able to save the other person from thier position of discomfort. Mars being in the 7th suggests maybe that this person is already involved with someone else? Taurus is a fixed sign, and in the 7th, it would seem to me that the person is already tied to a physical relationship with someone else, yet Mars deposits to Venus, suggesting that somehow you are the savior of this person from a connection with another that they are not very happy with? In short this person feels a romantic connection to you that they do not feel with the person or persons they are currently involved with.
Apparently the Moon is very important in horary, as it is represents both the significator and the quiested as one unit. You were incorrect when you observed the Moon on the cusp of the 4th, because it is the cusp of the 5th, which is even better! The 5th house is the house of romance, fun, playfulness and sexuality, and so relates directly to your question. Surely this is a good sign as it shows both of you entering into the realms of sex and fun. However, the Moon is moving out of the 4th house, suggesting that in order to make something of this romance, some responsibilities to home and family will have to be left behind, either for one of you or both of you. (probably both). The Moons last aspect is to Pluto who has just entered the 3rd. Somehow this suggests that if there is a romantic connection between the two of you then somehow this is being communicated (3rd) in secret (Pluto). The Moon moving into the 5th house is made more exciting as Uranus is here, and will be the Moons next conjunction. If you are going to do something about this romantic connection, beware of shocks and suprises soon to come. This is not neccesarily a bad thing, it may bring you exitement and a sense of escape, risk and rebellion. Moon on its way to Uranus seems to suggest an awareness of impending danger? Take the risk. The Moon is in Aquarius, hence it deposits to Saturn, which is in Leo very near conjunction with Mercury, and is in sextile to you, Venus. This would seem to suggest that whatever has been communicated secretly, or whatever it is that you have kept to yourself will ultimately be found out, it would place a restriction upon what you say, write and comunicate and ultimately put a restraint on desire for romance in the end.
I must ask you this: are you having an affair with someone or is it that this person does not know how you feel? If the latter is the case, they like you too, they feel you can help them, even save them. However, if you were thinking about an affair situation when you asked your question, I wouldnt be suprised because that theme is all over this chart!
I hope that you found this an interesting read, even if I was a million miles out!!! I will check back for any feedback you give as I would be most interested to see how you feel about this interpretation.
By the way, try to get hold of Goca, shes a very good horarist.
Hope you enjoyed reading and I look forward to your feedback.
08-20-2005, 06:37 PM
Hey, Draco, were did you hide untill today? Your analysis of this chart is so proffesional! Welcome to this forum! If you stay here we will learn a lot from you :!:
08-21-2005, 02:00 AM
Hi Goca and thanks for your complement. It gives me confidence. :D
I am very pleased that you felt I did well at this as I have read some of your posts and you seem to be quite knowledgable and I am hoping to learn from you about last aspects, void of course Moons, etc. Although I have a good understanding of astrological symbolism, I had never heard of horary until a few months ago (didnt begin studying astrology properly until Uranus hit my Ascendant at Pisces 10) and so I need to learn the various technicalities in this subject in order to improve.
By the way, I have just read the post you sent me regarding the Mystery-Man. I was very pleased that you responded and I have sent back a post which you may or may not have read. I would be interested in your feedback.
Thankyou for welcoming me to the forum, I am pleased to be part of it, it is good I can come and learn from you all here.
Hopefully cannin will get back and tell me whether my interpretation was significant to her or not.
08-21-2005, 11:34 PM
Draco, all I have to say is WOW! Your discussion has offered me a great guide to dissecting a chart! You are very thorough and detailed which is wonderful for me to be able to see what you see! I look forward reading your analysis of other questions on the forum!
I wish I could be more forthcoming with your accuracy, I met the other person online last week (which may be why she was only in my head) and just met her in person last night. My suspicion is that she may be involved with someone else. We hit it off well enough but I realize I am still habouring feelings for someone else. Since this other person is always in the back of my mind I wonder which one was represented by Mars since I made the mistake of not specifying in my question.
You are 100% correct about my desire for love. I have been hoping for a relationship for many months with someone who was not available and am trying to move forward.
I really appreciated your reading of my chart and I am so honored you de-lurked to read it!
Looking forward to hearing more from you!
P.S. I am so much of a novice that I am not sure you want my input on your chart but if I see you, I will also do you the courtesy of responding! Thank you again!
08-22-2005, 02:08 AM
I was very pleased to read your response to the horary as it was only the second I had tried to interpret and you are the first person that has given me feedback for a personal question. I don't think I did too badly. Given that I now know the circumstances of the question. It all falls into place now. When I mentioned communicating it secret, it might have been better put to say communication in private. This is definately a reflection of your romantic communications over the net. I would also strongly suggest that this person is involved with someone else, but very attracted to you however. I also feel they probably have some family obligations you may not know about. When I felt that either this was an affair or some fantasy inside your head I was trying to express that you desired this person but somehow they were unattainable, you were imagining and fantasising and this was occuring in private which is all the 12th house. Now this makes sense because of course you were on your own chatting over the net, and so the way you see this person was largely imagined and based in private thought. You see? When I mentioned the Moon on the cusp of the 5th, this definately suggested sexual fun as the Moon represents you both as one unit. I now have more understanding of that Moon now and its aspect to Pluto = You both communicated privately/secretly across the internet, then met up for fun, sex and enjoyment. (which I said would happen before it did, as you only met her last night) I would say though that this person is involved with someone else and if they are telling you they are not give them the benefit of the doubt but remain suspicious. As I said, the Moon was on its way to Uranus in the 5th, so any secrets or lies will be exposed with a bang, but this could also indicate some mind-blowing sex, which is a good thing surely! (hope you don't mind me posting this). Also you being Venus, her Mars shows her as the more dominating of the two of you.
Michele, by the way, sorry for presuming that the other person was male! This was because I needed a few more details really, but I think I did well considering, and you seemed to be quite pleased so if you're happy I'm happy!
What does de-lurked mean?
When you say you will have a look at my chart did you mean one of my horary questions or my natal? I would be very pleased to read your comments upon any of these. You say you are so much of a novice, but then so am I, and I never expected to get feedback as positive as I have done and it has really boosted my confidence! Thankyou.
Isn't this such a good place to learn?
What country are you in?
08-22-2005, 10:21 AM
I am in the US but I am from Canada. I am part of the "Brain Drain" - professionals educated in Canada that can only find work in the US.
The pronouns don't bother me... Horary doesn't differentiate between male or female in terms of romantic connections that I am aware of so I am fine with either.
De-lurked is a term online when someone has been reading the posts (lurking) but not posting a response... it's phrase that was inspired by the internet.
I appreciate your style in interpretting since it gives me a chance to see the inner working of horary. I feel like I am on the verge of understanding how the planets affect but I never had the language to connect them to each other and their placement.
Of course mind blowing sex is always welcome in my charts, interpretation and life in general so I don't mind you posting it! It will be interesting to see how this develops!
I think you did an excellent job! My question was very general and you were definitely spot on with your reading! Be encouraged because you have a gift!
Thank you Draco! I look forward to learning alot from you!
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