Mars progressed, Pluto transit

[Kuntuzangmo]

I'm wondering if any of you can comment:

I have natal moon/saturn conj in cap, 5th h.
Right now mars is sitting on it by progression, pluto is sitting on it via transit.

I'll say more if and when anyone has any thoughts.
Thx in advance.

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[Neptune Rising]

I'm wondering if the progressed Mars conjuncting the natal Saturn which is trine your natal Pluto, would make you inclined to work harder than you usually do? With transiting Pluto conjuncting progressed Mars too..

Pluto in the 2nd, maybe this progression is encouraging you to examine your value system somehow? Moon/Saturn trine Pluto natally may indicate that you naturally are able to go deep within your emotions and find structure in doing this. Perhaps it gives emotional strength, and no fear of inner hidden parts? Mars on Moon triggering that natal aspect, with Pluto transiting conjunct to natal Moon may be changing your emotional responses somehow, maybe even asking you to examine any fears you have (Saturn/Moon), or habitual emotional responses that no longer help your progress.

Wow Kuntuzangmo, loads of focus on that natal aspect!

NR

[Kuntuzangmo]

I'm wondering if the progressed Mars conjuncting the natal Saturn which is trine your natal Pluto, would make you inclined to work harder than you usually do? With transiting Pluto conjuncting progressed Mars too..

Yes....working hard and getting nowhere it has seemed....though in some ways I do feel there is light at this end of this deep tunnel...

Pluto in the 2nd, maybe this progression is encouraging you to examine your value system somehow? Moon/Saturn trine Pluto natally may indicate that you naturally are able to go deep within your emotions and find structure in doing this. Perhaps it gives emotional strength, and no fear of inner hidden parts? Mars on Moon triggering that natal aspect, with Pluto transiting conjunct to natal Moon may be changing your emotional responses somehow, maybe even asking you to examine any fears you have (Saturn/Moon), or habitual emotional responses that no longer help your progress.

Wow Kuntuzangmo, loads of focus on that natal aspect!

NR

Well, you said it NR.
All of the above.
In some ways it really feels like having one foot on the accelerator and one on the brake at the same time.

[Neptune Rising]

Kuntuzangmo, could that stop/start feeling be the pr Mars/n Saturn feel? This is Pluto's first pass retrograde over the Moon/Saturn/pr Mars trio, so maybe problems are coming to light now, giving you a chance to assess where things may be going wrong so you can correct them. You also have a Saturn square Saturn (and Moon) coming up when Pluto eases off, you may feel emotionaly alone, making it seem like harder work for little emotional reward at the time. The tr Saturn will be triggering the natal Moon/Saturn/Pluto aspect. I think maybe advice would be not to work too hard, take time out to look after yourself during those transits. Maybe the overall result will be an overhaul of your emotional reactions/value systems and adding structure to those areas...

NR

[Kuntuzangmo]

Yes, NR, the most interesting or obvious thing I'm noticing is that I"m finally doing my own most important tasks or projects....instead of working on others. So it's like being true to my own deepest spiritual and creative drives.

[Neptune Rising]

Yes, NR, the most interesting or obvious thing I'm noticing is that I"m finally doing my own most important tasks or projects....instead of working on others. So it's like being true to my own deepest spiritual and creative drives.

Ah cool Kuntuzangmo, that sounds like a 5th house Moon, with Mars and Pluto adding their flavours! And Saturn adding structure to those creative drives :smile:

NR

[Kuntuzangmo]

I've thought about it some more....and another very clear manifestation (for about 8 months or so), is a very heightened involvement in astrology (as compared to a general long term interest).
And I see (if I'm sharply honest about it) that my questions and inquiries really stem from insecurities.....wanting confirmations for a vulnerable ego. Events of the past ten years have really shaken everything from the root...

[astrologer50]

progressed mars at 5'33" is approaching and not exact yet! natal saturn is 6'01" you can play around in astro's extended chart selection to see when that happens exactly....

when prog mars was exact natal moon, you should have become more emotionally assertive and bossy. Now approach natal saturn will 'set off' saturn's aspects ie: conj moon and trine pluto. so really it's only the moon that will be affected being a 'hard aspect' and T Pluto conj moon is emotional obsessions,jealousy, issues to do with control, your children (if you have any) creative work, love affairs, and self employment even.


Traditions, responsibilities and regulations are going through a period of revision. Security is often a major concern because the limitations that were in place no longer apply. You may feel vulnerable, find yourself preoccupied with morbidity and death or you may have to deal with corruption on some level. The old solutions to problems don't work any more and you have to find new ways to overcome limitations. This is often an austere period.
http://www.astrology-x-files.com/transits/pluto-cj-saturn.html


so what has transpired?

I also notice prog moon is fast approaching natal neptune and this could cause lots of confusions, around mother, women and your own emotional state

Your prog sun has just changed signs into Aquarius for it's next 30years stay, have you noticed this yet? are you becoming more talkative and want more freedom and independence??

[Kuntuzangmo]

progressed mars at 5'33" is approaching and not exact yet! natal saturn is 6'01" you can play around in astro's extended chart selection to see when that happens exactly....

when prog mars was exact natal moon, you should have become more emotionally assertive and bossy. Now approach natal saturn will 'set off' saturn's aspects ie: conj moon and trine pluto. so really it's only the moon that will be affected being a 'hard aspect' and T Pluto conj moon is emotional obsessions,jealousy, issues to do with control, your children (if you have any) creative work, love affairs, and self employment even.



so what has transpired?

I got into arguments (also when the transiting mars was conj natal uranus), which is rare for me.

I also notice prog moon is fast approaching natal neptune and this could cause lots of confusions, around mother, women and your own emotional state

Your prog sun has just changed signs into Aquarius for it's next 30years stay, have you noticed this yet? are you becoming more talkative and want more freedom and independence??

I think the sun moving into Aquarius has manifest in a much broader and communal sense of self-involvement, if that makes sense. I actually already have tons of freedom and independence (a foundation of the whole chart). The issues more these days are about finding a home, maybe less travel, deciding about sources of income....these types of things.
I've lead a highly nomadic life for the last ten years.

[Kuntuzangmo]

It dawned on me yesterday.....after buying a physics book yesterday (something I haven't done for years)....
The progressed sun in Aquarius = far deeper delving into astrology and refiring a long yet not forgotten love of theoretical physics.
Duh! So obvious!