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Marina
06-18-2010, 11:35 PM
We all know that Islamic extremists will strike again. It sickens me to use the adjective "Islamic" to describe these madmen. Millions of Moslems the world over follow a kindly, peace-loving path. If I could use this tool to outsmart them, and find someone in authority who would take my for seriously, I would be happy.

My rationale in designating positions in the chart are as follows: I am using houses to indicate place of attack, the seventh house ruler to represent the terrorists as they have declared themselves to be open enemies, and aspects to show action and reaction.

I am having such difficulty uploading charts to this site, I can only describe what my chart looks like and hope you will be patient enough to assist me.

I feel this is a valid chart because, as an American, my 10th house is ruled by Cancer. with an ascendant of Libra, I am correctly described as a woman who is stepping forward -- Venus in Leo -- to help my country (I am located in the 10th house.) The terrorists are described by Mars in Virgo. that too is accurate. They are an extremely intelligent and analytical adversary. In this case, a heavy Mercury signature describes them. Mars in the seventh degree of Virgo is in Mercury's terms. They are in the Sun's face and the Sun now is in the sign of Gemini, also ruled by Mercury. this tells me that they are on the move and doing a lot of talking and planning. I only hope our intelligence operatives can hear it.

They strike in the 11th house which is ruled by Leo.(also, this chart is meant to exclude the Middle-East, Iraq, or Afghanistan) Here I am over my head -- probably over my head in all of this, but I want to try. Using Bill's book I find the only place or body ruled by the 11th house to be the United States House of Representatives. However, I might use Leo here as my significator and that presents more possible target areas -- Bombay, India Bath, England, and Chicago Illinois are among the many cities suggested as well as the Vatican and the entire country of France.

I do not feel I should ignore the mercurial emphasis of this chart. That the terrorists are described by the Sun's face and the sun is in Gemini in the ninth house is interesting to me. These madmen describe themselves as religious warriors and the fact that the sun is in the ninth house must be significant. The sun is in its joy in the ninth house. However, in Gemini, religion might be used for two purposes -- to recruit more extremists and perhaps encrypt messages in religious discourse (though this sounds pretty far-fetched).

I don't like the fact that this chart shows nothing really opposing the actions of Mars, on the other hand, nothing eases them. The moon does conjunct Saturn in the 12th house of the questioner. This may indicate something hidden from the intelligence gathering agencies of my country. I have also been thinking the moon might be acting as a translator of light.

I again thank anyone who could help me with this problem, and to make it a little easier for you the planetary positions and degrees are as follows: Sun: 27° Gemini 9th House, Moon: 22° Virgo 12th house, Mercury: 15° Gemini 9th House, Venus: 6 degrees of Leo, 10th house, Mars 6° Virgo, 11 House, Jupiter: 1° Aries sixth house, Saturn: 28° Virgo 12th house, Fortuna: 0° Capricorn, third house, Nodes of the Moon: 12° Capricorn fourth house.

M

BobZemco
06-19-2010, 04:52 AM
I am having such difficulty uploading charts to this site.

There are instructions, for the life of me I don't know where they are, but if you are still unable to load a chart, then an astrologer would need the date, time and location in order to construct a chart.

They are in the Sun's face and the Sun now is in the sign of Gemini, also ruled by Mercury.

In order to correctly interpret that, you would need inside knowledge, or you would need to conduct research to improve your understanding.

Using Bill's book I find the only place or body ruled by the 11th house to be the United States House of Representatives. However, I might use Leo here as my significator and that presents more possible target areas -- Bombay, India Bath, England, and Chicago Illinois are among the many cities suggested as well as the Vatican and the entire country of France.

That's actually a misapplication of the data from Lilly and Raphael, which has its origin in Ptolemy's Tetrabiblos Book II.

When there is an eclipse, the sign of the eclipse represents those countries, regions and cities, and when there is a Great Conjunction (Mars-Jupiter, Mars-Saturn, Jupiter-Saturn, Saturn-Uranus, Uranus-Neptune), the sign of the Great Conjunction represents those places.

Otherwise the "target" planet is measured in degrees east or west of the MC, and then a new chart relocated to that degree of longitude on the meridian.

I don't like the fact that this chart shows nothing really opposing the actions of Mars, on the other hand, nothing eases them. The moon does conjunct Saturn in the 12th house of the questioner. This may indicate something hidden from the intelligence gathering agencies of my country.

Well, again, in order to correctly interpret that, you would need inside knowledge, or you would need to conduct research to improve your understanding.

I would recommend Frank Church's Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (detailing the CIA's recruitment of Castro to overthrow Batista), the House and Senate Intelligence Committee Investigations on Kosovo/Bosnia (Clinton's illegal authorization of the purchase of arms from Iran to be shipped to Albania and smuggled into Bosnia and Kosovo by al-Qaida #2 Man Zawahiri and the recently killed al-Qaida #3 man whatever his name was -- and the prime reason Clinton appointee and neo-con Anthony "Tony" Lake -- now Obama's advisor -- was rejected as head of the CIA at his confirmation hearing), plus the trial transcripts of the assassination of Italian President Aldo Moro, plus the Mossad's connection to the terrorist group that assassinated the leader of another terrorist group, and their connection to the terrorist group that attempted to bomb the US Embassy Mission Cairo.

That'll take you out of the dark, especially since when interpreting any chart, it's important to know as much about a client as you can. One possible interpretation of transits might say a client's relationship with their parents will improve, but that's of little comfort if the client's parents are already dead.

Also, the 9th House is long distance passenger and commercial travel (by plane or boat).

Ebenia
06-19-2010, 06:03 AM
The question should be also addressed with more detail. There are terrorist attacks happening all the time all over the world, especially in Israel, Gaza, Iran etc. If one is only interested about America and possible attacks there, then it should be said in the question, IMHO.

Marina
06-19-2010, 06:40 AM
Thank you very much, Bob, for devoting so much thought to my question. I cast the chart on June 18th at 1:45 p.m. in Albuquerque, NM.

I do realize that there is far too much it-takes-a-rat-to-catch-a-rat behavior in our untelligence communities, maybe it was even like that in the time of the OSS, but they are not all sluggards and grease stains. Am I correct in thinking that the 12th house would represent the government's spies? Though your point is well-taken that the 12th house is the place of my lack of illumination on the subject . Which brings to mind the fact that I have followed the directions for uploading charts but never have succeeded in doing so. Nightmare no. 3 was named abu Yasid, I believe. M

Marina
06-19-2010, 07:06 PM
Thank you, Elbenia, for your suggestion. I did exclude the Middle East, Iraq, and Afghanistan in my question; I thought there would not be enough room to post the query in its entirety. I am thinking of attacks like those of 9/11, 3/11, Madrid, 7/7 London. ( I wonder if these guys shoot craps) Do you happen to know if it's only subscribers to Astrodienst who can upload charts, generated at their site? M

Marina
07-17-2010, 10:21 PM
I guess my analysis of the chart regarding the next major terrorist attack outside of the Middle East, Iraq, and Afghanistan would have received a failing grade.

However, there were some interesting near misses. The place of attack was ruled by the sun in Gemini and the twin nature turned out to be the two bars in Kampala. I thought in passing that the place might be hot because the sun was situated in the ninth house where it is in its joy. I remember writing somewhere that print media was somehow involved in the attack. Al Qaeda just days after the attack, launched its first English-language magazine.

The bombings in Uganda happened the day after the solar eclipse, and it is strange that when Mr. Zemco attempted to correct my flawed thinking on place of attack mentioned solar eclipses.

I cast a chart for the country of Uganda using its independence day -- October 9 1962 -- as its birth time, and the city of Entebbe as its place of birth since I've read that papers were signed in that city. I used noon as hour of birth.

There are a few fascinating connections between the chart I cast and the country's birth chart. I wanted to look at the fifth house of the country's natal chart as the terrorists targeted barrooms. The fifth house is ruled by the planet Venus in fall in Scorpio. the country's ascendant is Capricorn, and its North nodes are in the eighth house. Not surprising since Uganda is best remembered for the evil Idi Amin.

Though Uranus is not generally considered in horary, I looked at it because I sought out a connection between it and the terrorists significator Mars. Since Mars was already claimed, I needed some body to represent explosive devices.

To refresh any person's memory, patient enough to read this, in my chart the terrorist were signified by Mars at 6° of Virgo. In Uganda's natal chart Uranus sits at 3° of Pisces. It is perhaps too wide an arc upon which to build an opposition but it does give one pause.

I am also going to try to find the moderator who can help me solve my problem of uploading charts. I would like to participate more fully in this forum and thank and respect those who take time to share their expertise. M.

Arian Maverick
07-17-2010, 11:17 PM
There are instructions, for the life of me I don't know where they are, but if you are still unable to load a chart, then an astrologer would need the date, time and location in order to construct a chart.

Marina posted a visitor message on my profile page asking this question, but for others who are unaware, two tutorials are located in the Help with the forums and suggestions (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=22) board: Attaching a chart as a thumbnail (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=222035) and Step by Step guide on -- How to insert an image here? -- (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1171)

In the mean time, I'll upload a chart using the data below:

I cast the chart on June 18th at 1:45 p.m. in Albuquerque, NM.

I hope you don't mind that I've created the chart using the Regiomontanus house system and with an orb reduction--75% of the standard Astrodienst orbs.

If you'd like to know how to change these and other settings, see my tutorial Instructions for Reaching Extended Chart Selection Page on Astrodienst (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24043).

Of course, if anyone has specific questions about uploading charts, please feel free to send me a personal message or write a visitor message, if my inbox is full.

Arian Maverick

Marina
07-18-2010, 06:25 AM
Thanks, Arian, for your instructions and the chart posting. Perhaps it will spark some interest. M


Marina posted a visitor message on my profile page asking this question, but for others who are unaware, two tutorials are located in the Help with the forums and suggestions (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=22) board: Attaching a chart as a thumbnail (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=222035) and Step by Step guide on -- How to insert an image here? -- (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1171)

In the mean time, I'll upload a chart using the data below:



I hope you don't mind that I've created the chart using the Regiomontanus house system and with an orb reduction--75% of the standard Astrodienst orbs.

If you'd like to know how to change these and other settings, see my tutorial Instructions for Reaching Extended Chart Selection Page on Astrodienst (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24043).

Of course, if anyone has specific questions about uploading charts, please feel free to send me a personal message or write a visitor message, if my inbox is full.

Arian Maverick

Culpeper
07-19-2010, 06:50 PM
After casting a chart using the data you provided, I do not see to much danger from terrorist attacks in the next 7 months. This is for North America and Europe. In a mundane horary chart with unspecified time, I count the number of degrees the Moon must traverse until it leaves its sign counting these as months. After that the chart expires.

The first house and its domicile ruler are significators of the place where you cast the chart probably the entire USA. The seventh house in mundane represents all foreign countries both friends and enemies. To distinguish between the two use the sixth house for enemies and the eleventh for friends. Here Jupiter is the significator of enemies but Venus (USA) is separating from it. A separating aspect indicates the past rather than the future. Also there is no aspect at all with Mars. So no attack during the life of this chart.

To be more specific use Gemini and its house for the USA. You must turn the chart. The opposite sign is Sagittarius, Jupiter signifies foreign countries and Scorpio and Mars the enemies in particular. USA is represented by Mercury in domicile and in hayz. It is very powerful and nothing appears to be impending. Mercury is swift and separating from Mars; thus expect no attack in the near future. You can use this for other countries if you know their sign.

Marina
07-20-2010, 05:39 AM
A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi

Knowing how to represent the globe through one chart is very useful information, indeed, but I did cast my chart before the bombings in Uganda. Africa is getting scary. A friend is teaching Classical Greek at a seminary, and is berated daily on his way to work at the Christian collede. Mosques and attitudes are exported from Saudi Arabia. It never used to be that way. African moslems were courteous and tolerant in his neck of the continent.

It struck me that the targeted bars in horary terms were in the terrorists 5th. I did not think to turn the chart.

What say you then to the bombings in Uganda coming hard after a solar eclipse? Moreover, I might use mundane theory to figure out if Al Qaeda is using their English-language mag for more than teaching people "how to make bombs in mom's kitchen." Thanks, M.

Marina
07-28-2010, 08:31 PM
I made another terrorist chart and am practicing uploading chart re Maverick's direction. Bear with me. Ta, M.

Marina
07-28-2010, 11:40 PM
Finally, I uploaded a chart, but using shift. command. 4. keys compressed simultaneously on my Mac. This action photographs the screen displaying Astrodienst's chart.. Then i cropped the image and uploaded it from my desktop.

It's not much of a chart, though. Early degree of ascension says it was not yet time to ask. I am still using 7th house to indicate terrorists because it proved accurate in my previous chart. The 11th house is the 5th of the 7th. That describes the strike zone - two bars where people were watching the World Cup. Using this system, again they are Mercury - a peregrine Mercury capable of inflicting much harm. My godson thinks it's weird that I chose such a subject, and I told him about my friend from Somalia; her entire village escaped the brutality of Al Qaeda because they had warning that the tanks were coming.They all hid in the woods. the women were not raped; the men were not butchered nor the children enslaved. That's what happens in Africa if one is not the "right" kind of Moslem and meets up with Al Qaeda. I realize the U.S.A is complicit in their creation, but they have evolved into something wholly evil.