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Tanya00
06-15-2010, 10:08 PM
Hi guys,

So looking at my Progressed, I looks like I have signs that (will)affect different houses.
Does this mean that the sign/planet will transition into another house during the progression, or am I just calculating it wrong? ( very likely :joyful: )

To do some "double-checking", I plugged my chart into an astrology program and it gave me the same result:

PROGRESSED LEO ON 4TH HOUSE
PROGRESSED LEO ON 5TH HOUSE
and
PROGRESSED AQUARIUS ON 10TH HOUSE
PROGRESSED AQUARIUS ON 11TH HOUSE

So my first question is, is this correct? Second, is this common? Third, Should I interpret/assume that the same planet/sign/influence will be felt in both houses throughout the year?

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8305/natalprogressionssolara.th.jpg (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/natalprogressionssolara.jpg/)

http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/9062/progessions2010.th.jpg (http://img532.imageshack.us/i/progessions2010.jpg/)

astrologer50
06-15-2010, 10:57 PM
Lot depends on the house system you use as I use Equal house system and we don't get intercepted signs or houses -- so to your question in 'placidus' they can have one sign rule two houses.

I don't read progressed charts as stand alones, it's more important to see where they fall in the natal, especially the Angles ie: Asc and MC

progressed charts are more 'internal' changes, evolvements rather than 'events or external' matters. I don't read prog charts as stand alones it's more important to see where these planets are moving in the natal chart

Your natal chart is like a photograph as unique as your fingerprint, BUT the 10planets in the sky have not stayed where they were in your natal chart, they have all moved. Predictive astrology is mostly maths where those 10planets are now and the mathematical aspects they make to your natal charts ie: 180'=opposition, 90'=square, 60'=sextile and 120'=trine.

So your personality, grows, develops, changes, matures as we get older, this is reflected by your sun sign changing from it's natal position to the next sign along, so does your Asc and MC sign change. In fact from sun to mars especially are important, as the outer planets really don't move much, using a 'day for a year' secondary progressions.

What's the difference between Transits and Progressions?
“Transits are the planets currently orbiting in the sky and the relationships they form to each other and additionally, to your chart. Transits happen for everyone. They're important and effect you personally when they contact a planet or point in your chart. Transits represent outside energy, things happening outside yourself. They describe external events and your responses to them. Progressions, however, move very slowly and are a natural progression of your original birth chart. The events and emotions they describe are part of you, deeply ingrained in your psyche, internal, and psychological. And as they form aspects, these inner feelings start to become more important and central to your life”
http://www.artcharts.com/learn_astrology/progressed.html (http://www.artcharts.com/learn_astrology/progressed.html)

If you want to research more into Secondary progressions try here
http://cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html (http://cafeastrology.com/secondaryprogressions.html)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_progression (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_progression)
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html (http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html)
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=67 (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=67)
http://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/astroarticles/progressionsinastrology.php (http://www.khaldea.com/rudhyar/astroarticles/progressionsinastrology.php)
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html (http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/progressions.html)
http://astrolmass.com/progressions.htm (http://astrolmass.com/progressions.htm)


The most important of progressed planets is of course, sun & moon and then upto mars, as the outer planets hardly move by progression. Now like with transits, solar arcs --- it's what these progressed planets are doing NOW by mathematical aspect to your natal planets and Angles that is ultimately important.

Also I would take this opportunity to mention there is a ‘plethora’ of information in every forum top, called 'stickys' which cover, explain in great depth what each forum is all about, plus we have an Education forum for further research..

astrologer50
06-15-2010, 11:02 PM
just over a year ago SA part of fortune POF was conjunct your Ascendant, was there any good fortune or luck?
This would also coincide with SA Jupiter conj MC - did you change jobs or travel?

astrologer50
06-16-2010, 08:34 AM
All of the quadrant house formats (Placidus, Porphyry, Alchabitius, Campanus, Koch, Regiomantus, Morinus) and also Equal house, will have one sign covering 2 houses (in certain latitudes, even 3 houses) Only the Whole sign format will never have one sign in more than one house under any circumstance.
Nope that can't happen with Equal house system :innocent:

BobZemco
06-16-2010, 02:47 PM
Does this mean that the sign/planet will transition into another house during the progression, or am I just calculating it wrong?

That's what "progression" means.

To do some "double-checking", I plugged my chart into an astrology program and it gave me the same result:

PROGRESSED LEO ON 4TH HOUSE
PROGRESSED LEO ON 5TH HOUSE
and
PROGRESSED AQUARIUS ON 10TH HOUSE
PROGRESSED AQUARIUS ON 11TH HOUSE

So my first question is, is this correct? Second, is this common? Third, Should I interpret/assume that the same planet/sign/influence will be felt in both houses throughout the year?

Throughout the year? You mean for the next 10 to 20 years.

Progressions are like watching your life unfold in very slow motion, since the symbolism is a day-for-a-year.

You have intercepted signs, and the houses that hold the intercepted signs will demand your undivided attention or be a focal point for you over the coming decades.

Tanya00
06-17-2010, 03:17 AM
just over a year ago SA part of fortune POF was conjunct your Ascendant, was there any good fortune or luck?
This would also coincide with SA Jupiter conj MC - did you change jobs or travel?

Goodness, I wish! It seems as though I've had nothing but poor luck in the past year, Especially in the job sector, but I do remain highly optimistic if that has had any influence on the aspects :joyful:

I think in learning about and trying to coordinate my natal, solar return, progressed and their timing, I'm mixing up information and their uses/meanings - I'm just making it too complicated, and doing that just makes me more confused. I need to concentrate on one chart at a time :smile:

Thank you guys for taking the time to reply!

astrologer50
06-17-2010, 11:35 AM
-regarding Equal house, while it is absolutely correct that one sign cannot COVER two houses with this format, it frequently, actually usually, happens in Equal house that one sign EXTENDS from one house into another (this is what I had in mind but didn't make clear in my post re: Equal house; I wrongly continued to use the word "cover"-sorry:surprised:!)

are you thinking about critical degrees or something? I can't see what you mean 'extends' it can't extend into another house, if one sign is ruling that house which is does in Equal -- how can it extend into another pls?

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wilsontc
06-17-2010, 03:34 PM
a50,

You asked:
I can't see what you mean 'extends' it can't extend into another house, if one sign is ruling that house which is does in Equal -- how can it extend into another pls?

I think what dr. farr is getting at is something you already know...the cusps of the equal house chart are often some number other than zero degrees of a sign. So the sign BEGINS in the middle of one house and FINISHES in the middle of another house. For example, if the 5th house cusp in an Equal house chart is 17 degrees :aries:, then the sign :aries: BEGINS at 0 degrees :aries: in the 4th house and FINISHES at 29 degrees :aries: in the 5th house.

Extensively,

Tim

dr. farr
06-18-2010, 02:49 AM
[QUOTE=wilsontc;214368]a50,

I think what dr. farr is getting at is something you already know...the cusps of the equal house chart are often some number other than zero degrees of a sign. So the sign BEGINS in the middle of one house and FINISHES in the middle of another house. For example, if the 5th house cusp in an Equal house chart is 17 degrees :aries:, then the sign :aries: BEGINS at 0 degrees :aries: in the 4th house and FINISHES at 29 degrees :aries: in the 5th house.

Yes, this is what I was trying to say (I thought my meaning was clear-guess I'll have to work on making my posts clearer!)

Thanks Wilsontc!

I'm sure no one will mind if I delete my previous 2 rather murky posts, and direct the OP's attention to the excellent explanation of house systems to be found in the astrology information sections of the AW forum.