Another relationship chart (pretty please :))

[Catatonia]

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[Summery Joy]

Brooklyn, NY (kings county)?

You are not by any chance an acquaintance of pisceskitty, are you? :D

So,

You are signified by Venus, while he is signified by Saturn.

Saturn is in essentially debilitated by detriment, and receives Venus by term and face. It has accidental debility by being cadent in its turned chart.

Venus is essentially peregrine, and receives Saturn only by face. It has accidental dignity by being in the 10th house.

This chart is strange. Since you are asking this question, I sort of assumed that you're the one who's more intereted. But the chart shows him to care about you more than you care about him. It also shows him in tough stage in his life. You are in a parallel stage, but not so negtaively affected by it (both significators are disposited by the Sun, but only Saturn is in detriment).

The Moon is technically in your 7th house, but separates from a trine with Saturn. It's last traditional lunar aspect is a trine with the Sun (it's dispositor) in the 10th house. It's last actual aspect is a trine with a modern planet, Pluto Rx, in the 3rd house (your boyfriend's turned 11th).

Hmm. I think that you were only drawn to your boyfriend by promises of commitment that he made. Now that you are about to start a career, those promises are as not as dazzling anymore, especially with how difficult he has been acting lately. I think you will end up focusing on your career. You likely to meet someone else who's from you and your current boyfriend's current network. I wouldn't be surprised if you end up relocating, but not far away.

[Catatonia]

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[Catatonia]

Oh, another thing. He is already in the profession (generally...) and I am going into a different sector of the same profression. That is why I won't be -with- him in it directly. Technically, i've already been accepted. I haven't gotten my assignment or relocated yet. Maybe you can look at it differently now that you know the plot behind the Cinderella story :rolleyes:. Why wouldn't the boyfriend be symbolized by Mars? I mean, I'm not in it yet...nor was I even relatively close to the decision when I met him.

<nervous amateur laugh> ;)

[Summery Joy]

Heavy laden boyfriend, huh? I see the chart describes that well with the ruler of the 5th in detriment in its own turned 6th. However, I have to be doubtful of this chart, because it doesn't how that you love him you love him you love him!!! It actually shows that he cares about you and you care about him, be he seems to care a tad more.

Again though, you described him as authoritarian. He is signified by Saturn, so I guess it makes sense. Hmph! The chart seems radical enough. I wonder why it doesn't show the love you decribe for him.

Anyway, he is not signified by Mars because we use the ruler of the 5th to describe a boyfriend. In order to use the ruler of the 7th (Mars in this chart), he should be a committed partner, a seriously committed one.

If you are asking why I didn't use Mars as a natural significator of him as a young man; well, I tend to lean less towards natural rulership unless the chart very obviously shows that it matters. But that's a personal preference. Maybe someone else could give you a reading based on natural rulers.

Apart from astrology, I just wanna say one thing. He either loves you or he doesn't. He either needs you or he doesn't. He either wants you or he doesn't. These are three different things. You'd better find out where he stands in all three places and then decide if you are still willing to consider him. And remember; a clean break is a quick pain, but living in confusion is a slow death.

Good luck.

[Catatonia]

I appreciate the advice. I know how I feel about him and no chart will change that. On a positive note, he did talk to me yesterday for about 5 - 10 minutes. He told me that I am beautiful (has said that the second time consecutively in our convos) and that I mean a lot to him. I suppose whatever will happen will happen. The biggest disappointment may be just how much work has been done in the relationship thus far, and that actually going into this occupation will bring me closer to him. Nevertheless, time will tell.

Thanks again. :)

Ah, by the way...I immigrated from the USSR at age 3 to the US. I was raised in Brooklyn most of my life and no, I am not familiar with PiscesKitty :o
However, I have both a natal and a relocated chart at this point (and I usually solely go by the relocation even though the natal is a blueprint). What I wanted to mention is that my Natal Venus is at 12* Libra and Natal Asc at 9* Libra (matching the horary question). Relocated Asc at 0* Leo (matching the horary Venus). He has an Aries asc (matching the horary Moon in Aries). I am almost positive that makes no difference :p But I figured I'd mention it.

[Howl]

a clean break is a quick pain, but living in confusion is a slow death

ohhh-ahhh, them's some wise words, spoken by someone who sounds like they know!! ;) If only it hadn't taken me so long to realise the same thing :D

[Summery Joy]

am almost positive that makes no difference :p But I figured I'd mention it.
Actually it means a lot. It shows that the chart is radical.

ohhh-ahhh, them's some wise words, spoken by someone who sounds like they know!!
Yup, I'm one of those who learned the hard way. ;)

[Howl]

What exactly does radical mean? :confused:

Something about turned houses, but also something about 'truly representative?'

[Summery Joy]

Yeah, I went through that confusion for a while.

A radical chart is a chart that is very descriptive of the issue in question. This description could be anything from the querent's significator conjunting the his/her natal Sun to ASC in Aquarius in a question about friendship to Venus on the MC when the question is about a career in arts, etc.

The radical chart is the chart as it is, without turning any houses. For exampe, if we are considering a partner's money, we look at the turned 2nd from the 7th, which happens to be the radical 8th. In this context, you can use the word radix instead of radical. I prefer using "radix" in the context to avoid confusion.

Hope this has helped.

[pisceskitty]

Hey guys, stop talking about me!:D I Live in brooklyn too catatonia. I was born in manhattan though. Just moved to brooklyn 4 months ago... Nice meeting you. i'll let you guys get back to your discussion!;)

[Catatonia]

Hey guys, stop talking about me!:D I Live in brooklyn too catatonia. I was born in manhattan though. Just moved to brooklyn 4 months ago... Nice meeting you. i'll let you guys get back to your discussion!;)

Likewise, PiscesKitty. I believe this is what they call triplicity (maybe I am wrong, lol) because I am a Scorpio. Brooklyn is a wonderful place if you're in the 'right' area :p