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05-12-2010, 11:25 PM
He was walking by the seashore carrying something in his hand.Looking at it he became aware that it was lifeless,and saying to himself,'It's no use carrying a dead thing',he threw it far into the sea.From the place of it's disappearance,a beautiful water bird arose with a head of peacock blue,swam to shore and strutted on the sand,shaking itself free of water and growing larger and more brilliant as he watched.
I welcome your comments.
05-13-2010, 05:13 AM
Jerry, this is such a fabulous and life-affirming dream - I wish I'd had it!!!
Firstly the throwing of the `dead thing' represents a conscious decision to give up some kind of dead emotions, or behaviour which has led nowhere. The conscious nature of this is a really good sign I feel. The peacock is a symbol of pride in oneself.
As an interpretation, I'd say that this person's unconsious is telling them to let go of self-defeating beliefs, emotions and behaviour in favour of having self-love and pride. Perhaps if the person makes the decision to let go of the `old ways', then the new way will show itself.
05-13-2010, 09:38 PM
Raven, why a Peacock?
What Sign/Planet rules Peacocks?
Thank you for the reply,.
05-13-2010, 10:25 PM
In ancient years peacocks were ‘female’ birds in nature, related by the Greeks with Hera and later by the Romans with Juno, as her sacred bird.
Cirlot in ‘A Dictionary of Symbols’ connects two peacocks with the sign of Gemini. He furthermore mentions the peacock to represent the blending of all the colours of the spectrum – and therefore, totality.
Peacock is moreover a symbol of alchemical transmutation.
Peacocks are symbols of awakening, glory, resurrection (a modern version of Phoenix), immortality (according to the legend, its flesh never decays), and due to the wonderful tail feathers of the male peacocks, they are used to suggest either foolish vanity or divine glory.
Here however there are no tail feathers: the bird has the unadorned (though resilient) body of a water bird, and only the head of a peacock. So, by concentrating on the peacock’s head, it has a ‘crown’, which symbolises the perfection of combining knowledge with love, head with heart.
All new life comes from water: by deciding to throw the lifeless thing into the water, the man on the shore becomes the father and the mother of a new form of life: he becomes ‘Demiurges’.
The new-born bird comes to the shore, stands before its creator and performs two actions at the same moment:
a) it faces its creator, as all beings need to know their origin. Note the attachment to the creator: though gifted with the body of a water bird making it capable of flying away, the beautiful new born bird comes back to the shore to face him; and
b) mirrors its creator with its quality of symbol of pride. By mirroring him, it tells him he should be both pleased and proud for having been the agent of such a wonderful transformation.
He is an exceptional in nature, honoured and beloved man, for he has breathed new life into a dead body.
I feel it is a dream of a miraculous transformation (rebirth) and of great devotion (peacock is furthermore a symbol of loyalty).
Quote: ‘The pride of the peacock is the glory of God’. (William Blake, ‘The Marriage of Heaven and Hell’.)
Thank you for sharing his dream with us.
PS: Last but not least: Peacocks are said to dance with the rain; shamans are said to become the rain: perhaps the magic creature was doing more than ‘shaking itself free of water’ ;)
05-13-2010, 10:59 PM
Raven, why a Peacock?
What Sign/Planet rules Peacocks?
Thank you for the reply,.
I read that all large birds are an Aquarian animal.
05-14-2010, 07:21 AM
Vinyasa, that is such a powerful and detailed overview of both the peacock symbolism as well as the dream itself.
My grandfather kept peacocks (and emus and kangaroos and rabbits and ducks and anything else which followed him home.) As a child I loved the peacocks - the colours, the sense of entitlement, even arrogance which they displayed. They were similar to emus in movement, but without the bad temper and unpredictable aggression, and seemed to rely upon no-one. They always wandered around the farmyard as though they owned it. I'm a Leo, and I reckon they display that `look at me' persona.
So in answer to your question about sign/planet rulership, Jerry, I'd have to say Sun/Leo. A peacock has no need to blend in with its environment for protection; it declares itself for the world to see.... a definite display of pride.
05-14-2010, 05:41 PM
The Dreamer was William Frederick Allan.
05-14-2010, 05:42 PM
That is such a beautiful dream, and everyone's interpretations of it so inviting and vivid, and also inspiring. I'm sure each one of on here has felt the urge to transform and show our true colors, to experience pure unabashed pride about who we are and what we do.
The beauty in Jerry's dream is that bird emerged from the ocean, the quinessential site of birth and rebirth. All things emerge from the ocean, both from an evolutionary perspective, and from a psychogical one, perhaps even a spiritual one.
The head of a peacock- yes as Vinyasa shared but perhaps also that mind has become free and reborn, proud as a peacock but true to itself as R4VEN implies with the connection to Leo/Sun. Clarity and purity of thought. I'm seeing Gold to represent Leo and Self-will/righteous pride/solar plexus, and blue to represent the renewed/cleansed mind/head of the peacock emerging from the blue ocean.
By mirroring the man who took part in the creation/transformation, honors him, but also allows the man to have remain in deep reverence for the rhythm and power of nature, and the ocean/earth itself/herself. He simply cast off what he thought was dead and useless and it was returned to him more glorious than before, because he did not remain attached to it's old form. He became conscious of what he was doing with this thing in his hand, and threw it into the ocean to have it returned to him as this form. representative of himself and his actions, but of possibilities which lay dormant until he cast the thing off and it could re-emerge.
It became a beautiful bird which did not abandon him/fly away, but simply allowed him to appreciate the power of transformation, and his own hand in it.
I must sound so all over the place... I just utterly love this dream.
05-14-2010, 09:12 PM
Alan Leo: most interesting, a double Leo (Asc + Sun), so Raven had a very strong point here.
I wonder if you know at which point of his life this dream came.
05-15-2010, 09:36 AM
A period in his life when The Papess was opposite his Natal Sun.
That is,if F.A.H's reminiscences are accurate?
05-15-2010, 03:48 PM
Very detailed time delineation, Jerry... :rolleyes:
For the sake of the case study I took her reminiscences as accurate and based my calculations on the 7th of July: did you notice how the progressed ‘Papess’ was squaring Sun? Pr.Sun Sq.Moon, Pr.Mercury opp. Ne/Pl, Tr.Chiron conjunct Neptune and the activation of the nodes..: my guess is he knew where he was heading.
After having matched the dream to a natal chart and having inserted it into a chronicle, it seems to me it was at the end a clear vision of having been the agent of transformation and the ‘giver of life’ and of watching now the creation grow beyond himself and of enjoying the loyalty of his devotees.
Thank you for the very interesting exercise, it was very intriguing to see how a powerful dream intermingles with a chart and with a life account.
05-15-2010, 05:55 PM
When I refered to 'The Papess',I was hinting at something else, as well as the Moon.:wink:
There comes to mind a dream that he told me he had had during the early days of July....
It is interesting you should choose a Saturday,7th July.
May I suggest a time,3am UT,London.(The Wolf Hour)
05-16-2010, 09:26 AM
The dream took place just before his prosecution at the Mansion House on July 16 1917,when he was fined for fotune telling.
'It became evident that his whole system of reading of horoscopes would have to be revised,because what he regarded as nothing more than truthful and legitimate advice to clients the law insisted upon treating as fortune telling.'
H.S.Green from 'The Life and Work of Alan Leo.' By Bessie Leo and Others.
This Law has not been repealed.
A few weeks later,on the morning of August 30th 1917 at 10am,at Bude in Cornwall,Alan Leo died of apoplexy.
His watchword: 'Character is Destiny.'
Thank you for all the comments.
05-16-2010, 09:42 AM
From the first days of July and based also on a short bio by Kim Farnell on skyscript, I went with the 07.07 because it was the day giving Moon opp.Sun, for what concerns the other hint, may I guess the legal prosecution itself? His mystical doctrine (Papess) against his status (Sun)?
In the chart of the hour given I see only Moon on the 9th cusp equal (dreams) and speaking of Wolves, Mars is rising (Mars and Pholus are natally on Beta and Gamma Pavo respectively).
In his progressions, asteroid Peacock con. progressed Moon in his natal 9th.
And that is all I can see, hope I don't miss much. Thanks for the exercise once again :)
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