read my chart Friendly Kitty

[cindah]

OK Friendly Kitty...here goes. If you are an expert in 8th house matters, you got my curiosity.

I've got Saturn in the 8th opposing the Sun in the 2nd. Saturn is close to my 9th cusp at 29 degrees Scorp and Sun is at 23 Tau.

And the aspects: Sun - tight sq. w/ Jup/Pluto conj. in the 6th (Leo) and thank God...it sxtile Uranus (Can) in the 5th. Saturn - sq. the Jup/Pluto conj...tight w/ Pluto...but thank God, a tight trine w/ Uranus....so what's your take on this bit of info.

the best to all, cindah

[Friendly Kitty]

We welcome your interpretations but if they are not fundamentally adhering to the basic principles of astrology I hope that you will take in good heart the corrections that would be made. There are many theories and opinions but the age old science of astrology has its strict rules and this never changes.

All the best

:happy:

Hey Claire! I am very aware of the basic principles of astrology. But when it comes to finances, I think people forget that Venus represents money. Without Venus/Pluto, there can't be a gain. The sign Libra placed in a beneficial house, will indicate a gain also. Scorpio placed in a beneficial house, will indicate a gain also. Scorpio/Pluto tends to be more dark than light. No theories here. My observations are tried and true. Saturn is also misinterpreted by some. Saturn is the ruler of the 10th house. It's limitations can be welcomed. Especially if it's in the 6th house. Would make one devoid of serious health problems. Saturn also represents the government. Depending on the transits that are occurring and what house it's in. One could gain. My interpretations are from basic astrology knowledge, my and others experiences.

[Friendly Kitty]

OK Friendly Kitty...here goes. If you are an expert in 8th house matters, you got my curiosity.

I've got Saturn in the 8th opposing the Sun in the 2nd. Saturn is close to my 9th cusp at 29 degrees Scorp and Sun is at 23 Tau.

And the aspects: Sun - tight sq. w/ Jup/Pluto conj. in the 6th (Leo) and thank God...it sxtile Uranus (Can) in the 5th. Saturn - sq. the Jup/Pluto conj...tight w/ Pluto...but thank God, a tight trine w/ Uranus....so what's your take on this bit of info.

the best to all, cindah

Hi Cindah! Is your question about finances and/or death? If so, I would need to see your birth chart. I need to see what house Libra and Scorpio rule. What planets they are placed in and in what houses? Who's the ruler of your 2nd house? What planets are in the 2nd house? Where is the natal ruler of the 2nd house is placed? For death, we look to Lilith. What sign is in Lilith and what house it's in. This is very important. Next we look for squares/oppositions/quincunxs made to your Ascendant. What houses are the planets making negative aspects to your Ascendant, placed in?

[cindah]

Hi Cindah! Is your question about finances and/or death? If so, I would need to see your birth chart. I need to see what house Libra and Scorpio rule. What planets they are placed in and in what houses? Who's the ruler of your 2nd house? What planets are in the 2nd house? Where is the natal ruler of the 2nd house is placed? For death, we look to Lilith. What sign is in Lilith and what house it's in. This is very important. Next we look for squares/oppositions/quincunxs made to your Ascendant. What houses are the planets making negative aspects to your Ascendant, placed in?

I would rather my question be about finances…death not being my favorite topic. But it is interesting how astrology ties the two together. You are right about Venus representing finances and I don’t see that addressed enough. T. Pluto is opposing my Venus now. Lilth is not on this chart but its at 17 degrees Capricorn and hey, I am curious about your input..we’re all learning here and I love it. I’ve been off the site for awhile due to a hard drive crashing on me…but now I’m really glad to be back.
All the best,
Cindah

[Claire19]

OK Friendly Kitty...here goes. If you are an expert in 8th house matters, you got my curiosity.

I've got Saturn in the 8th opposing the Sun in the 2nd. Saturn is close to my 9th cusp at 29 degrees Scorp and Sun is at 23 Tau.

And the aspects: Sun - tight sq. w/ Jup/Pluto conj. in the 6th (Leo) and thank God...it sxtile Uranus (Can) in the 5th. Saturn - sq. the Jup/Pluto conj...tight w/ Pluto...but thank God, a tight trine w/ Uranus....so what's your take on this bit of info.

the best to all, cindah
Best to post a chart even anonymous.....

[Friendly Kitty]

Actually, my Lilith is in Cancer (4th house cusp). No other planets in the 4th. - (I have Aries/Libra intercepted (6th & 12th), so I'm a Gemini in the 2nd & 3rd.) My Lilith is therefore opposite my 10th, possibly my Neptune (8' Capricorn- Lilith= 16.2' Cancer) My Lilith is square my Vertex (Libra 14'), Jupiter (Aries 11') & North Node (Aries 11'). Possibly Mercury (Aries 9').
Great observations for Leo... What do you think about my Cancer/Lilith influence? In "Equal House" I suppose I would be a Leo in the 4th, but I go by Placidius, and that gives me Cancer on the 4th.
Pluto is opposite my Ascendant (Pluto 9' Scorp, ASC 5' Taurus) No other harsh aspects that I can think of... Positive aspects= Neptune, Psyche, & Part of Fortune trine Ascendant.
My 5th/11th houses (11' Leo/Aquarius) MAY be square my ASC/DSC (5' Taurus/Scorp)???
Yes, I like to spend money on my appearance in terms of high quality skin care products (to keep me looking youthful) & nice, natural, organic things... or quality items. I care about the condition of my skin & hair (organic products only).
Gemini in the 2nd= yes, I do like to always have spending money on hand. I can be quite frugal, if needed, however I do like to spend money on drinks, food, meaningful items, jewels... quality items that I will use & will last (forever, preferably).
But yes, I do like to keep busy! And am QUITE willing to spend what it takes to do so... any price is worth keeping me busy! I don't mind spending money on gas, etc. (although I don't like to pollute) but merely because it is more important for me to "hang out" with friends, go places, than sit around because of something like "worrying about money". I am very good at making money, fast! (I have been a very good waitress since my teen years). Here is my chart:

Death:

Okay, Lilith Cancer in the 4th house: (water sign) If you own a pool, death by drowning. Accident in shower. Problems with home appliances. In your case, none of these apply. Your home is your place of death. Scorpio Pluto (8th) opposite Taurus Ascendant: Problems in sugery/hard to treat disease (genital/face/throat area). Cancer Lilith (4th) square Aries Jupiter (12th): Problems after surgery (doctors fault). Aries Mercury square/quincunx Scorpio Pluto: Miscommunication regarding procedure/surgery. Is it possible you've had plastic surgery or plan on doing so? Cancer rules chest area and these problems can take place at home.

Btw, the reason for your preference of organic products: Virgo (health) in the 6th house and Taurus (beauty) in the Ascendant. Both earth signs. Both Libra (6th cusp) and Taurus (1st) love expensive/name brand. Both rule Venus.

Money:

Gemini Mars (2nd) sextile Aries Mercury (in 12th cusp/2nd house ruler): Your likely to make most of your income driving (in 12th house manners). Mars makes you aggressive and Mercury gives you the ability to obtain income rapidly (Mars). Yes your right. Gemini Mars (2nd) sextile Aries Jupiter (12th): Again, you gain most of your income through the matters of the 12th house. Scorpio Pluto (8th) opposite Taurus Ascendant: You can receive inheritance due to malpractice. Jupiter/Mars aspect shows this wealth. You may have to sue (jupiter rules legal/law/lawyers) your doctor/hospital (12th). Pisces Venus makes negative aspects to your Sun/Moon/Uranus. You may have trouble obtaining funds from them (hospital/doctor). Becareful of lawyers/legal matters. Empty Libra in the 7th house isn't so bad. You can obtain money/gifts. Only if you find a partner who's sun sign, falls in this house. Their sun sign also has to trine your 2nd house/ruler. This could also go for friends (11th). If you wish them to pay or give money. Their sun sign must fall in your 11th house and sextile your 2nd house/ruler. This works for all houses except the 1st. Of course other aspects matter as well. Would help if your Mercurys/Ascendant make positive aspects. :happy:

[astrologer50]

Hey Claire! I am very aware of the basic principles of astrology. But when it comes to finances, I think people forget that Venus represents money. Without Venus/Pluto, there can't be a gain. The sign Libra placed in a beneficial house, will indicate a gain also. Scorpio placed in a beneficial house, will indicate a gain also. Scorpio/Pluto tends to be more dark than light. No theories here. My observations are tried and true. Saturn is also misinterpreted by some. Saturn is the ruler of the 10th house. It's limitations can be welcomed. Especially if it's in the 6th house. Would make one devoid of serious health problems. Saturn also represents the government. Depending on the transits that are occurring and what house it's in. One could gain. My interpretations are from basic astrology knowledge, my and others experiences.

I've found this to bring boring jobs and health conditions
· Have to work for what is received. Difficulties with employees and in working conditions due to a separateness and a demanding-ness. Hard worker but shouldn't expect everyone else to have the same attitude about the job.
· A tendency to worry and fret can cause health problems even stomach ulcers. They may worry unduly about their health.
· Can be a little bit nit picking and be irritated far to easily.
· Makes for cautiousness and practicality. Work is not as important as attitude toward it.
· Security may be found in hard work.
· These people have high expectations and meet challenges, delays and difficulties at work.
· Efforts are rewarded by slow advancement.
· Probably work alone and behind the scenes. Won't moan about work just get on with it.
· You will gain confidence by your hard work & efforts for perfection, and will gain much respect from co‑workers.

[astrologer50]

Welcome to the group Friendly Kitty. Does Kitty represent Leo for you?

I have my Dad's birth date but never knew his time of birth but I do know the approximate time of his death. Would that enable you to give a rising sign by noting his death? No unfortunately

He was born on an eclipse date in San Antonio, Tx 8/31/1932 and died in San Antonio, Tx 4/17/1970 about 10:30 in the morning.

I'd leaned toward Aries, Leo or Cancer rising with Mars near his ascendant
because he had reddish brownish blondish hair tho he also tanned easily.
It was a construction accident where the long arm of a crane, called a boom, fell due to a weak chain link and fell on him killing him instantly.

I have always been interested in death too....but not a morbid curiousity.....more because I don't believe death is the end but more a new beginning.

There is a 'plethora' of information on AW, espec in the 'stickys' at the top of every forum, our Education forum and Recommendations forum to. Plus we have a good search feature, bit like google using keywords --

There are plenty of threads on AW covering this topic if you use the search feature.....

[astrologer50]

I would rather my question be about finances…death not being my favorite topic. But it is interesting how astrology ties the two together. You are right about Venus representing finances and I don’t see that addressed enough. T. Pluto is opposing my Venus now. Lilth is not on this chart but its at 17 degrees Capricorn and hey, I am curious about your input..we’re all learning here and I love it. I’ve been off the site for awhile due to a hard drive crashing on me…but now I’m really glad to be back.
All the best,
Cindah

You have calculated your chart using the default on astro.com of placidus and I use Equal House system and am a modern astrologer. Lots of people that come into Astrology get their free charts calculated at www.astro.com (http://www.astro.com/) and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all that there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few more.

Throughout the forums but mainly in natal astrology there are two main branches Placidus (unequal size houses) v Equal House (whereby each house is same size) but lots more……. For more information on these go here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_(astrology)#Description (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_(astrology)#Description)
http://www.astrolozy.com/article19.asp (http://www.astrolozy.com/article19.asp)
http://www.skyviewzone.com/birthinfoforms2/housesexplained.htm (http://www.skyviewzone.com/birthinfoforms2/housesexplained.htm)

It's only with study and research will you be able to assess where your planets are deposited and in which houses... thus see which 'glove fits'

So, in Equal house Saturn is in 9th house not 8th, cos in 8th suggests you may never inherit and if you do could become a burden or yoke around your neck....
Neptune is in 8th and this has a lovely trine to venus (money planet) in 4th house. So this suggests that whomever you share your finances with will like you spend on luxuries and want a nice home environment. Now your venus is the 'least aspected' with only this one aspect, suggesting that venus doesn't perhaps function great and perhaps you take lots of things for granted (venus wise)

Your sun would be in 3rd along with mercury BUT sun is a singleton ie: only planet in earth element, which your chart is lacking this energy.

You also have an 'unaspected moon' which is VERY rare, suggesting your emotions don't easily flow or when aspected by a transit can go the other way, overly emotional, obviously depending on the planet making the aspect.


Regarding finances, T Saturn will shortly make it's finaly square to natal venus from 7th to 4th suggesting a period of financial shortfalls, and testing what is of value to you and this includes relationships/friendships. Every time Saturn makes a hard aspect to my venus a relationship ends and my venus is well aspected in 4th :crying:

Regarding earning money, Saggi MC is great for teaching, legal work, travel, journalism, the law anything 9th house in fact. Aries ruling 2nd and placed in 12th suggests working behind the scenes and Leo ruling 6th and sun placed in 3rd is communications.

Sun opp Saturn can show problem with father, men, authority figures stemming back to childhood.

[astrologer50]

T Pluto opp venus
"Love relationships can be very difficult at this time, with alot of manipulation and mind games. Sometimes these relationships are called "fatal attractions" because these relationships can end tragically. The unequal sharing of power is often an issue. Sexual urges tend to be very strong. In sex, this combination symbolizes bondage, S&M and domination / submission scenarios. Sometimes this can indicate that you are stalked by someone with an obsession for you."
http://www.astrology-x-files.com/transits/pluto-op-venus.html

Just hope you are in a stable relationship, but this can also suggest power struggles over finances to. So if there is a break up imminent, expect a few problems...

[Claire19]

Hey Claire! I am very aware of the basic principles of astrology. But when it comes to finances, I think people forget that Venus represents money. Without Venus/Pluto, there can't be a gain. The sign Libra placed in a beneficial house, will indicate a gain also. Scorpio placed in a beneficial house, will indicate a gain also. Scorpio/Pluto tends to be more dark than light. No theories here. My observations are tried and true. Saturn is also misinterpreted by some. Saturn is the ruler of the 10th house. It's limitations can be welcomed. Especially if it's in the 6th house. Would make one devoid of serious health problems. Saturn also represents the government. Depending on the transits that are occurring and what house it's in. One could gain. My interpretations are from basic astrology knowledge, my and others experiences.
Sorry to say that Saturn in the 6th is bone problems and chronic conditions often which I have and periods of unemployment as I have it there, I know. It is good in the 10th house if well aspected, true as it belongs there. I have a Venus sextile Pluto so am lucky. I wont argue the rest.

By the way I was thinking about what you said about 2005, and some gains. I did receive some monies as a result of sale of property within the family. THat is connected to my good aspects from the 4th of family to the 8th of inheritance and gifts etc. However not through speculation or lottery.

[Claire19]

I've found this to bring boring jobs and health conditions
· Have to work for what is received. Difficulties with employees and in working conditions due to a separateness and a demanding-ness. Hard worker but shouldn't expect everyone else to have the same attitude about the job.
· A tendency to worry and fret can cause health problems even stomach ulcers. They may worry unduly about their health.
· Can be a little bit nit picking and be irritated far to easily.
· Makes for cautiousness and practicality. Work is not as important as attitude toward it.
· Security may be found in hard work.
· These people have high expectations and meet challenges, delays and difficulties at work.
· Efforts are rewarded by slow advancement.
· Probably work alone and behind the scenes. Won't moan about work just get on with it.
· You will gain confidence by your hard work & efforts for perfection, and will gain much respect from co‑workers.
I agree with what you say about hard work, delays, slow advancement, health problems and can be fearful about health. I also think it is a karmic lesson to be learned. To deal with everyday matters such as housing, food and clothing in a practical way and to be independent. It can mean government work and in my case as it is in Leo, working with the entertainment field with government grants etc. Well aspected it has given me certification in herbal and plant remedies, all part of the Virgo/6th scenario. I think we will find that Ceres is more apt as ruler in the future.
I have a 6th house stellium and I know about it...:happy:

[MorganaL]

I am also visual too. I learn by doing. Are all of you this way too? What is the best thing for a person who is visual?

[Friendly Kitty]

I've found this to bring boring jobs and health conditions
· Have to work for what is received. Difficulties with employees and in working conditions due to a separateness and a demanding-ness. Hard worker but shouldn't expect everyone else to have the same attitude about the job.
· A tendency to worry and fret can cause health problems even stomach ulcers. They may worry unduly about their health.
· Can be a little bit nit picking and be irritated far to easily.
· Makes for cautiousness and practicality. Work is not as important as attitude toward it.
· Security may be found in hard work.
· These people have high expectations and meet challenges, delays and difficulties at work.
· Efforts are rewarded by slow advancement.
· Probably work alone and behind the scenes. Won't moan about work just get on with it.
· You will gain confidence by your hard work & efforts for perfection, and will gain much respect from co‑workers.

This is correct, only if non earth signs are placed in this house. Earth in this house is strong. Even with bad aspects. The only negativity would be in work matters. One could work hard and be given little to no credit. They can be perfectionist and notice every detail. Co workers would think their suck ups and will detest them. Some will steal their credit and bosses will work them harder (use). But health would be satisfactory to excellent. As long as no negative aspects are made to the Ascendant or Moon. Also, they do suffer from limitations in getting ahead. If other planets promise advancement or success, the 6th house can be beneficial. But you have to work hard and face many setbacks. Btw, I have Capricorn Sun/Mercury in the 6th. I can suffer from stress if I think too much. Other than that, I have a strong health constitution. No bone problems.

[Friendly Kitty]

Sorry to say that Saturn in the 6th is bone problems and chronic conditions often which I have and periods of unemployment as I have it there, I know. It is good in the 10th house if well aspected, true as it belongs there. I have a Venus sextile Pluto so am lucky. I wont argue the rest.

By the way I was thinking about what you said about 2005, and some gains. I did receive some monies as a result of sale of property within the family. THat is connected to my good aspects from the 4th of family to the 8th of inheritance and gifts etc. However not through speculation or lottery.

You have Leo Saturn in the 6th if I remember correctly. It's not a good placement since Leo's fire and the 6th is ruled by earth. An earth sign in this house would benefit. A fire sign in this house (making negative aspects) would indicate problems. All signs placed in this house will most likely experience periods of unemployment and setbacks. It's best to have this house empty, for good results. Also, I wasn't sure what sign/planet you had in the 4th house. I only remember transits Libra Jupiter and Leo Saturn. That's why I assumed you won then. :pouty:

[Friendly Kitty]

I would rather my question be about finances…death not being my favorite topic. But it is interesting how astrology ties the two together. You are right about Venus representing finances and I don’t see that addressed enough. T. Pluto is opposing my Venus now. Lilth is not on this chart but its at 17 degrees Capricorn and hey, I am curious about your input..we’re all learning here and I love it. I’ve been off the site for awhile due to a hard drive crashing on me…but now I’m really glad to be back.
All the best,
Cindah


Sorry about your pc crashing. Welcome back! :happy: Here's my take on your finances. I'm only interpreting what stands out. Here goes! Taurus Sun (2nd) quincunx/square Libra Neptune (Venus ruler of your 2nd) : You tend to spend alot on your spouse/partner in 12th house matters (alcohol/drugs/jail/hospitals). Scorpio Saturn (9th) opposite Taurus Sun (2nd): You may have trouble obtaining funds from the government for further schooling. Or you may need legal help obtaining money (others money/taxes/inheritance) from the government. Leo Pluto/Jupiter (6th) sextile Libra Neptune (7th), Leo Jupiter (6th) conjunct Leo Pluto (6th): You could gain alot becoming a consultant for a job that involves speculation/investments (of others). Also, you could work in a store (upscale) and make immense commission (make sure the store falls under 5th house matters). This can also indicate fraud/deception (Neptune) on your behalf in obtaining big gains (Jupiter) through others (8th or 7th house). Leo Jupiter (6th) conjunct Leo Pluto (6th): You could steal from other's creativity and profit on it through your job ( Bill Gates has the same markers but in the 2nd house). Or you may be apart of a lawsuit against your job (big gains through lawsuit). Cancer (home/family) Uranus (sudden/unexpected/shock) sextile Taurus (money) Sun: Possibly a family member (or child/5th house) wins a sudden amount through gambling/lotto and you gain. Scorpio Saturn (9th) trine Cancer Uranus (5th): This backs up your Uranus sextile Sun. Scorpio (others assets/inheritance/taxes-lottery's are taxed) Saturn (government/success/public image) in the 9th house (the media/long distance exploitation/law/legal matters) trine Cancer (home/family) Uranus (sudden/unexpected/shock) in the 5th house (gambling/speculation/children). Hopefully I have the planets in the right houses. Overall, I interpreted where your likely to gain most of your income and where inheritance may come from.

[astrologer50]

This is correct, only if non earth signs are placed in this house. Earth in this house is strong. Even with bad aspects. The only negativity would be in work matters. One could work hard and be given little to no credit. They can be perfectionist and notice every detail. Co workers would think their suck ups and will detest them. Some will steal their credit and bosses will work them harder (use). But health would be satisfactory to excellent. As long as no negative aspects are made to the Ascendant or Moon. Also, they do suffer from limitations in getting ahead. If other planets promise advancement or success, the 6th house can be beneficial. But you have to work hard and face many setbacks. Btw, I have Capricorn Sun/Mercury in the 6th. I can suffer from stress if I think too much. Other than that, I have a strong health constitution. No bone problems.

I sorry I don't agree with this Saturn placement --if you have some research available or could cite some sources pls. Of course these are all generalised statements (as was mine) without consulting a chart for proper evaluation.

Taurus Sun (2nd) quincunx/square Libra Neptune (Venus ruler of your 2nd) : You tend to spend alot on your spouse/partner in 12th house matters Sun is not quincunx Neptune here, it doesn't show on the aspect grid and is not valid...


Leo Jupiter (6th) conjunct Leo Pluto (6th): You could steal from other's creativity and profit on it through your job ( Bill Gates has the same markers but in the 2nd house). Or you may be apart of a lawsuit against your job (big gains through lawsuit).

Jupiter in Conjunction
"Expansiveness and intensity of purpose combine to provide you with a well-spring of power and presence from which to draw. This will aid in the realization of your plans. Even with this reserve of power behind you, you are not one to misuse this energy. You are a seeker of truth and you remain open to complete overhauls in your belief systems, especially those that no longer serve you. You will defend your principles to the end and you have no fear when it comes to taking a stand on the side of justice."
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectsjupiter.htm#najuasppl

Jupiter conjunct Pluto
"A conjunction of Jupiter and Pluto confers the determination to achieve goals that will bring about improvements for both you and others. You have a very strong and penetrating insight, and a good deal of leadership ability. You are determined to enjoy life to its fullest. Dedicated to your ideals, you have a bit of the zealot in you." http://www.skyscript.co.uk/jupiteraspects.html#jucpl

"The conjunction of these two planets ‑ each of which is expansive in its own way ‑ one through seeking a synthesis of a wide range of phenomena, the other through spreading its roots in the ­all‑embracing unconscious, can have serious and far‑reaching consequences. Pluto could carry us unexpectedly out of our depths, and with Jupiter we must always be on guard not to bite off more than we can chew. The danger of exaggeration and of overreaching ourselves is always present"
From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag

Worst case scenario can suggest inflexibility and deceipt are all possible but I'm for balancing out the good with the bad here, not just focusing on the negative and bad 'possibilities' :whistling:

In truth Cindah, there are higher positive vibrational energies attached to each planet and aspect it makes, then there is lower more negative spin. Sometimes if I think a member has responded with 'all smiles and charm' I may point out the more realistic negative possibilities. Or, like on your thread would seek to 'balance out' the negative with positive side attributes :cool:

[astrologer50]

I would rather my question be about finances…death not being my favorite topic. But it is interesting how astrology ties the two together. You are right about Venus representing finances and I don’t see that addressed enough. T. Pluto is opposing my Venus now. Lilth is not on this chart but its at 17 degrees Capricorn and hey, I am curious about your input..we’re all learning here and I love it. I’ve been off the site for awhile due to a hard drive crashing on me…but now I’m really glad to be back.
All the best,
Cindah
Saturn in the 9th house
· Saturn's best positions are the 3rd and 9th houses. Gives a practical philosophy of life.
· Not good for relationships with in-laws if afflicted. Best to live at a distance.
· Makes good teachers, professors, workers in publishing fields or scientific pursuits.
· Good at detailed work. Exacting and concentrative.
· Can be fanatical and intolerant in religious concerns if Saturn is afflicted.
· These people are influenced by the conservative religion and traditional values of their background. Even rebellion will change only the form and not the reality of their basic beliefs.
· Life or travel in foreign countries may be most successful if connected with work.
· Care should be taken to avoid difficulties in travel.
· Systems of belief you will judge according to their practical value and you will seek and desire personal ­distinction through some achievement you have studied.

Saturn opp Sun suggests some problems relating to father, men and/or authority figures. Venus in 4th ruling 3rd and 8th shows areas where finances and pleasure are received and given out. Venus placed in 4th suggests pleasure from entertaining in home, making a beautiful aesthic home and caring for family (cancer venus and unaspected moon) This moon can show huge swings emtoinally as they don't link in with the rest of the chart/character. So you could earn money from home (I have this, I call it 'bake a cake syndrome' anyone that calls,get fed) get shared resources from partners, govenerment and employers although with neptune their shows confusion and illusions at times. Lastly, venus ruling 3rd house of siblings shows again family members making sure you are ok.

Mars ruling 2nd and placed in 12th suggest working below the radar and behind the scenes. this placement also shows not being able to act or have temper tantrums as a child and therefore learning not to exert or act because it never got you the results you wanted

Researching rulers of houses will help you understand more where I joining the dots so to speak
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html (http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html)
http://www.trans4mind.com/personal_development/astrology/LearningAstrology/housesDerived.htm (http://www.trans4mind.com/personal_development/astrology/LearningAstrology/housesDerived.htm)
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm (http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm)


morganaL
I am also visual too. I learn by doing. Are all of you this way too? What is the best thing for a person who is visual?

Best to start your own thread with questions and post your chart--
How to attach a chart as thumbnail
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12126 (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12126)

[cindah]

Thanks Friendly Kitty and Astrology50 for all the info. You both pretty much nailed it in a lot of ways. I do earn my money in publishing/communication...and have been thinking of teaching my art since Uranus cross over my Asc. Actually high school even though I've heard a lot of horror stories about attempting to "reach" teens. But I admire them...they teach us alot despite the angst they cause. As for my son, he really doesn't buy lotto tics but he has a sagg stellium (a salesman) and says he's going to be a millionaire w/in five years....that would be nice. I don't think teachers get rich too often.
Thanks again for the info...I need to study it more so I can digest it.
Cindy