Chakra locations

[Caprising]

Has anyone (besides Julie @ Derek Parker) noticed that the chakras are in the same bodily location as our endocrine glands? If so do you think that this is co-incidence? Our endocrine glands are said to be "wave sensors" that is they are influenced by the electro-magnetic waves that serround us, it seems to fit with the basic astrological thought of being influenced by planetary "vibrations" Any comments?

[dr. farr]

The 7 (principal) Chakras are also in the vicinity of the major nerve plexes (with the Crown and Brow in the brain area), which adds to the "vibration reception" concept.

[Caprising]

The 7 (principal) Chakras are also in the vicinity of the major nerve plexes (with the Crown and Brow in the brain area), which adds to the "vibration reception" concept.
So do the endocrine glands connect to each other through the nerve plexus's?

[dr. farr]

So do the endocrine glands connect to each other through the nerve plexus's?


No; the endocrines "connect" with each other via their various biochemical secretions (hormone secretions) through the blood; however, the endocrine glands are "charged" (innervated) by the nerves: the endocrines are "hard wired" into the nervous system, thus the energetics of the nerves ultimately controls the endocrines, which, via their secretions, are in turn the chemical controllers of the living system: energy (via the nerves) thus controls the chemical, in living systems (the dynamic controls the static)

[Modcleopatra]

dr farr, it is so cool how you were able explain that. thanks. :smile:

Do you think the particular endocrine glands located near each chakra also respond to everything associated with that chakra? like color therapy as a possibility for say, issues with ovaries, by wearing/using orange in some way?

mod.

[dr. farr]

Modcleopatra:
In answer to your question, "YES", I do think that!

There is a great deal of value in chromotherapy (the "technical" word for color healing!), and there is a vital connection to astrological considerations in making that type of therapy, as well as various other forms of alternative therapy, much more effective.

[Modcleopatra]

Cool dr farr.

So let me ask you a hypothetical question, let's say a woman has issues with her ovaries- let's say PMS.

Scorpio rules the Sex Organs, and since this has to do with Women and the Moon, we might also want to address Cancer.

The traditional ruler of Scorpio is Mars- which corresponds to the color red. Cancer is obviously the Moon, which I think simply corresponds to paleness, or pearly-ness in general, or maybe light blue. I suppose I don't like think of the Moon as blue, but giving a silver or pearly tone to that which it influences.

Now, I could be totally off base here, but this suggests that if we want to "heal" the issues associated with PMS through chromotherapy plus astrology, perhaps wearing a dull red plus a silverly/pearly balancing counter-tone,
could help?


But why would this be if the chakra associated with sex organs, the sacral chakra, corresponds to the color orange?

interesting...

mod.

P.S. I don't mean to put on the spot here... I'm just curious! It doesn't have to match and I'll still believe it.... :)

[dr. farr]

I follow the school of thought which allocates the sexual organs to the Base chakra (not the sacral chakra), and connects, colorwise, with the Red color spectrum.
Remember, though, that we use the same color (as the chakra) to strengthen or tonify that chakra: if that chakra is in excess, another balancing color must be applied. In the case of PMS, we might that condition due either to an excess or to a deficiency of Base chakra energy: while determination of this could be made by examination of the latest Solar Return, or the progressed natal (up to the current year of life), by examining the condition of the Moon (primarily), also Venus, and the Cancer and Scorpio signs, direct energy testing (via pulse or muscle testing or physical radiethesia) would be a simpler method. There is a great deal involved in these matters, much to know!

[Modcleopatra]

I follow the school of thought which allocates the sexual organs to the Base chakra (not the sacral chakra), and connects, colorwise, with the Red color spectrum.
Remember, though, that we use the same color (as the chakra) to strengthen or tonify that chakra: if that chakra is in excess, another balancing color must be applied. In the case of PMS, we might have that due either to an excess or a deficiency of Base chakra energy: while determination of this could be made by examination of the latest Solar Return, or the progressed natal (up to the current year of life), by examining the condition of the Moon (primarily), also Venus, and the Cancer and Scorpio signs, direct energy testing (via pulse or muscle testing or physical radiethesia) would be a simpler method. There is a great deal involved in these matters, much to know!



Ok that makes a lot of sense- as I've often heard sex described as a grounding experience, or a way to ground one's energies, since it is a very physical experience, but also psycho-spiritual. Red and the base chakra, deal with issues of grounding- that much I know.

What you say makes sense about the progressed natal issues, as well as the solar return, what about the lunar return?

Also, in issues of miscarriages or failed conceptions, what are suggestions for tonifying in terms of chromotherapy?

mod.

[dr. farr]

Lunar returns might be a bit too "acute" to yield deeper indications relating to more chronic problems/tendencies (but, of course, lunars may certainly be used-especiallyfor sub-acute situations)

Relative to chromotherapy for tendency to miscarriage, etc; each case would have to be considered on its own merits (for us, shown by the leading indications found from the progressed natal or SR chart) and determination of primary and secondary colors made upon that basis.

[catastrophe]

The Crown Chakra's role is envisioned somewhat similarly to that of the pituitary gland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pituitary_gland), which secretes emanuel hormones to communicate to the rest of the endocrine system and also connects to the central nervous system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_nervous_system) via the hypothalamus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothalamus). The thalamus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalamus) is thought to have a key role in the physical basis of consciousness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness).

The Brow Chakra is linked to the pineal gland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland) which may inform a model of its envisioning. The pineal gland is a light sensitive gland that produces the hormone melatonin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin) which regulates sleep and waking up.

The Throat Chakra may be understood as relating to communication and growth through expression. This chakra is paralleled to the thyroid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyroid), a gland that is also in the throat and which produces thyroid hormone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyroid_hormone), responsible for growth and maturation.

The Heart Chakra is related to the thymus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thymus), located in the chest. The thymus is an element of the immune system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immune_system) as well as being part of the endocrine system. It is the site of maturation of the T cells (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T_cells) responsible for fending off disease and may be adversely affected by stress (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_%28medicine%29).

The Solar Plexus is related to the metabolic and digestive systems. Manipura is believed to correspond to Islets of Langerhans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islets_of_Langerhans),[35] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra#cite_note-34) which are groups of cells in the pancreas, as well as the outer adrenal glands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenal_glands) and the adrenal cortex. These play a valuable role in digestion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digestion), the conversion of food matter into energy for the body.

The Sacral Chakra is located in the sacrum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacrum) (hence the name) and is considered to correspond to the testes or the ovaries that produce the various sex hormones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_hormones) involved in the reproductive cycle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reproductive_cycle). Svadisthana is also considered to be related to, more generally, the genitourinary system and the adrenals.

The Base Chakra is related to instinct, security, survival and also to basic human potentiality. This centre is located in the region between the genitals and the anus. Although no endocrine organ is placed here, it is said to relate to the gonads and the adrenal medulla, responsible for the fight-or-flight response (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight-or-flight_response) when survival is under threat. There is a muscle located in this region that controls ejaculation in the sexual act of the human male. A parallel is charted between the sperm cell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spermatozoon) and the ovum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovum) where the genetic code (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_code) lies coiled and the kundalini (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra#Endocrine_system

[Caprising]

Ok that makes a lot of sense- as I've often heard sex described as a grounding experience, or a way to ground one's energies, since it is a very physical experience, but also psycho-spiritual.

mod.
I find this description of sexual energy interesting, especially because it's from a females perspective of sex and the energy transfer, which takes place at the moment of orgasm in a male. "Psycho-spiritual" energy is probably the best descriptive term that I have heard to describe the exchange. Most guys are totally drained of energy after an intense climax, you just want to go to sleep to recover (it feels much the same as having saturn transit ones pluto), while most females tell me that they feel the opposite, that is very "alive" after the event. I'm suggesting that the males "psycho-spiritual" energy is transfered from the male to the female at the moment of the males orgasm. While not wanting to pry into peoples personal life (after all this is a public forum), how do you females feel after the male orgasms, and also how about when you orgasm? is it the same transfer of energy? I suspect that pluto's placement and eighth house planets might affect just who gets the energy, sort of a competition for life energy!

[Caprising]

I follow the school of thought which allocates the sexual organs to the Base chakra (not the sacral chakra), and connects, colorwise, with the Red color spectrum.
Remember, though, that we use the same color (as the chakra) to strengthen or tonify that chakra: if that chakra is in excess, another balancing color must be applied. In the case of PMS, we might that condition due either to an excess or to a deficiency of Base chakra energy: while determination of this could be made by examination of the latest Solar Return, or the progressed natal (up to the current year of life), by examining the condition of the Moon (primarily), also Venus, and the Cancer and Scorpio signs, direct energy testing (via pulse or muscle testing or physical radiethesia) would be a simpler method. There is a great deal involved in these matters, much to know!
Great stuff Doc, I have some questions on Uranus, and which chakra it influences. During my Uranus opposition, (from 37 to 45 years of age) I had major kundalini happening, first off I thought that it was just another ache in my lower back that I would have to live with, but Barbara Hand/clows book on kundalini rising gave me some insight about what was really going on, and it also gave me a " light at the end of the tunnel" so to speak, as the pain was like living with a toothache, ok for a little while, but really hard to put up with long term, anyway, I read (red?) somewhere that the planet Uranus rules (or governs) the crown chakra, and I did have an "electric crown" for a year or 3, it felt like really strong static electricity was buzzing my scalp, yet I also had the burning/aching base or sacral chakra (I think that it was the sacral, but the base seemed to be involved as well). So my question is, does Uranus rule the crown chakra, and therefore rule the other chakras through the crown chakra's role as the "control centre" for the whole chakra/bodily system? Maybe my Uranus in the 8th house (conjunct pluto) connected the crown and base/sacral chakras together, as one would expext a conjunction of planets to do! What are your thoughts on this?

[Caprising]

The Crown Chakra's role is envisioned somewhat similarly to that of the pituitary gland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pituitary_gland), which secretes emanuel hormones to communicate to the rest of the endocrine system and also connects to the central nervous system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_nervous_system) via the hypothalamus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothalamus). The thalamus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalamus) is thought to have a key role in the physical basis of consciousness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness).

The Brow Chakra is linked to the pineal gland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland) which may inform a model of its envisioning. The pineal gland is a light sensitive gland that produces the hormone melatonin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin) which regulates sleep and waking up.

The Throat Chakra may be understood as relating to communication and growth through expression. This chakra is paralleled to the thyroid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyroid), a gland that is also in the throat and which produces thyroid hormone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyroid_hormone), responsible for growth and maturation.

The Heart Chakra is related to the thymus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thymus), located in the chest. The thymus is an element of the immune system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immune_system) as well as being part of the endocrine system. It is the site of maturation of the T cells (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T_cells) responsible for fending off disease and may be adversely affected by stress (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_%28medicine%29).

The Solar Plexus is related to the metabolic and digestive systems. Manipura is believed to correspond to Islets of Langerhans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islets_of_Langerhans),[35] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra#cite_note-34) which are groups of cells in the pancreas, as well as the outer adrenal glands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenal_glands) and the adrenal cortex. These play a valuable role in digestion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digestion), the conversion of food matter into energy for the body.

The Sacral Chakra is located in the sacrum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacrum) (hence the name) and is considered to correspond to the testes or the ovaries that produce the various sex hormones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_hormones) involved in the reproductive cycle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reproductive_cycle). Svadisthana is also considered to be related to, more generally, the genitourinary system and the adrenals.

The Base Chakra is related to instinct, security, survival and also to basic human potentiality. This centre is located in the region between the genitals and the anus. Although no endocrine organ is placed here, it is said to relate to the gonads and the adrenal medulla, responsible for the fight-or-flight response (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight-or-flight_response) when survival is under threat. There is a muscle located in this region that controls ejaculation in the sexual act of the human male. A parallel is charted between the sperm cell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spermatozoon) and the ovum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovum) where the genetic code (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_code) lies coiled and the kundalini (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra#Endocrine_system
Thanks for the list Catastrophe, much appreciated!

[dr. farr]

Great stuff Doc, I have some questions on Uranus, and which chakra it influences. During my Uranus opposition, (from 37 to 45 years of age) I had major kundalini happening, first off I thought that it was just another ache in my lower back that I would have to live with, but Barbara Hand/clows book on kundalini rising gave me some insight about what was really going on, and it also gave me a " light at the end of the tunnel" so to speak, as the pain was like living with a toothache, ok for a little while, but really hard to put up with long term, anyway, I read (red?) somewhere that the planet Uranus rules (or governs) the crown chakra, and I did have an "electric crown" for a year or 3, it felt like really strong static electricity was buzzing my scalp, yet I also had the burning/aching base or sacral chakra (I think that it was the sacral, but the base seemed to be involved as well). So my question is, does Uranus rule the crown chakra, and therefore rule the other chakras through the crown chakra's role as the "control centre" for the whole chakra/bodily system? Maybe my Uranus in the 8th house (conjunct pluto) connected the crown and base/sacral chakras together, as one would expext a conjunction of planets to do! What are your thoughts on this?


Rulership of the chakras is a very difficult and complex issue, with several strong yet conflicting theories having been put forward; I have been considering this question for the past 20 years at least, and I must admit that I have come to no conclusions which I could believe (in my mind) are any where near to being "certain". I will say that certain authorities in the past (Max Heindel, Cornell, Manly P. Hall-all in the first 1/2 of the 20th century) attributed Neptune to the Crown, and a Jupiter/Uranus co-rulership to the Brow. Vedic authorities have attributed either the Sun or Moon to the Crown (and a conjunction of the 2 when activated by the "Serpent Power") To go into my own little theory, would be rather extensive (might be subject for another thread, if AW members request)

I shall certainly state that what you experienced could definitely show evidence of some connection of Uranus with the Crown:biggrin: However, I must admit that I simply can't say "for sure":sad: (maybe someday when I learn a great deal more!)

[Caprising]

Rulership of the chakras is a very difficult and complex issue, with several strong yet conflicting theories having been put forward; I have been considering this question for the past 20 years at least, and I must admit that I have come to no conclusions which I could believe (in my mind) are any where near to being "certain". I will say that certain authorities in the past (Max Heindel, Cornell, Manly P. Hall-all in the first 1/2 of the 20th century) attributed Neptune to the Crown, and a Jupiter/Uranus co-rulership to the Brow. Vedic authorities have attributed either the Sun or Moon to the Crown (and a conjunction of the 2 when activated by the "Serpent Power") To go into my own little theory, would be rather extensive (might be subject for another thread, if AW members request)

I shall certainly state that what you experienced could definitely show evidence of some connection of Uranus with the Crown:biggrin: However, I must admit that I simply can't say "for sure":sad: (maybe someday when I learn a great deal more!)
It seems that everyone has their own combination of rulers, I'm not sure that I would want my Uranus and crown connected though :)....I'm requesting that you start a new thread on the subject, I'm sure that there are plenty of others besides me who want to learn more about this subject!

[Modcleopatra]

Caprising, you said,

"I find this description of sexual energy interesting, especially because it's from a females perspective of sex and the energy transfer, which takes place at the moment of orgasm in a male. "Psycho-spiritual" energy is probably the best descriptive term that I have heard to describe the exchange. Most guys are totally drained of energy after an intense climax, you just want to go to sleep to recover (it feels much the same as having saturn transit ones pluto), while most females tell me that they feel the opposite, that is very "alive" after the event. I'm suggesting that the males "psycho-spiritual" energy is transfered from the male to the female at the moment of the males orgasm. While not wanting to pry into peoples personal life (after all this is a public forum), how do you females feel after the male orgasms, and also how about when you orgasm? is it the same transfer of energy? I suspect that pluto's placement and eighth house planets might affect just who gets the energy, sort of a competition for life energy!"


Ummm...:whistling:

Well, I'll speak for me personally. I'm not going to divulge precisely what happens for me in terms of energetic exchanges, but I'll say a few things.

First, it depends on the person. I've been erotically involved with both Men and Women, and those who identify as neither. So not only does it depend on the person, it depends on the sex of the person, as well as the gender expression of that person. That is, whether they act "male" or "female."

Since you asked about my experience with Men, I'll just answer that question. What you're talking about is part of the basis behind Tantric Practice, something which I have been involved in. (I have Venus in Virgo, in the 8th house.)

It is a process and procedure to have a certain kind of sexual exchange in which both partners acknowledge what is considered a sexual "weakness" or "inferiority" (ok my Cleopatra-ness is coming out now) of the Male Body, especially as it relates to sex. This is in comparison to the Female Body.

The Female Body does absorb the chi/qi or "life force," or "psycho-spiritual/sexual energies" of the Male when he climaxes, if they are having sex. The Man feels tired and the Woman feels energized. This is because the Male Body, when it orgasms, does not differentiate between the experience of pleasure and the act of copulation. When a Man orgasms, he releases sperm/semen- his pleasure is bound to the act of reproduction. He is in a way, a slave to that. His orgasm/pleasure-seeking energies involve him also expending energy to reproduce. Even if the Man is impotent, sterile, or non-ejaculating for some reason or another, the orgasm is still linked to this act. And, even if he not having sex with a Woman when he orgasms, he is still mimicking the act of reproduction.

Then she makes off with his biological goodies/energies.

For a Woman, the situation is entirely different. The act of achieving orgasm is completely separate from the reproduction. She does not release an egg to be fused with a sperm the way a Man does upon Orgasm. Orgasm is for pleasure, recreation, bonding, and sometimes reproduction. Even if she is having sex with a Man, it does not have to be about reproduction. Only during certain kinds of orgasms does the Female Body engage actively in reproduction. (For example, during a Vaginal Orgasm when the Uterus dips into the Vaginal Tract and retracts upon Orgasm, in effect drawing Sperm up into the Uterus.) The Female Body abhors Sperm, and spends each day maintaining the acidic Vaginal and Uterine environment that is detrimental to Sperm. Preparing for sex is not an act of preparing for copulation, the way it is for a Man. She expends significantly less energy by way of sex and Orgasm, spending only a small amount of energy to maintain the Vaginal Environment, whereas the Male spends a lot of energy to first build the arsenal of Sperm, and then to release that Sperm. The Woman already comes in with all of her eggs locked, stocked and loaded, and she doesn't even "need" them to orgasm.

Still following?

Men practice Tantric, that is, the control of Orgasm, to mimic the Woman's Body. During the Sex Act, he allows himself to experience pleasure outside of the act of Orgasm and inevitably reproduction. He brings himself to the point of Orgasm, and allows himself to plateau there, eventually being able to maintain a meditative state that allows him to experience the total-body pleasure that a Woman has from Orgasm, and the experience of sexual pleasure outside of reproduction/ejaculation. Like the Woman, he is able to control his sexual experience, thereby not inevitably ejaculating and givng all of his energy to her.

They share.

it's nice.

mod.

[flea]

I haven't come across any consistent planet rulership of chakras, most people who write about them do not discuss that. They do however relate elements to each of the chakras.
Base-Earth
Sacral-Water
Solar Plexus- Fire
Heart-Air
Throat-Ether
no correspondences to third eye and crown as they are spiritual chakras.

I have also read the BHC...Liquid of Living Sex...relating to the urananus opposition and the rising of the Kundalini energy at that time that previously dormant lives in the base chakra for most people (fascinating book and it really helped me know what was happening). I eneded up doning kundalini yoga for my entire uranus opposition by chance, a month after the transit my teacher moved and it was back to Hatha. So all chakras are involved in this process.....you feel it where there is some disfunction in the chakra....no one is fully balanced and it changes and shifts all the time. For me the uranus opposition brought lots of issues, thyroid problems surfaced, and also eczema which affected at different times all parts of my body.

Rosalyn Bruyere wrote a great book called wheels of light...about the chakras and her personal healing journey. She sees the colours around people which has been verified with ocillliscopes in scientific testing. She also spends quite some time discussing the kundlini energy and what happens during sex, or channelling that energy for other things. The other guys that write about chakric stuff I like are Barabara Ann Brennan, and Hugh Milne.

http://www.crystalinks.com/chakras.html a useful link to get people started

FleaXX

[dr. farr]

The books Flea references are very good sources of information. I would also add Gerber's "Vibrational Medicine" and "New Light on Therapeutic Energies".

There exists pretty much of a consensus regarding color-wave affinities to the chakras (at least at the physico-etheric vibrational level, that is, the level of everyday life and its energetic/physiological processes) In chromotherapeutic work application of the "consensus" color-waves regularly produces positive results, which tends toward validating the consensus. These consensus color-wave affinities are:

Crown: Violet
Brow: Indigo (there are some variants suggested here)
Throat: Blue
Heart: Green
Solar (Plexus): Yellow
Sacral: Orange
Base: Red

I have found the above color-wave affinities reliable in testing and practical application.

However, when we seek to bring this information into alignment with astrological considerations, there is no consensus, because there is in fact nothing approaching consensus in zodiacal or planetary color affinities: even when we consider Mars and the color red, there are some differences in allocation-for example, certain long-standing Vedic and Chinese traditions attribute red to Saturn (at least under certain circumstances)!!

I'll add some of my little thoughts and theories to this discussion, soon.

[Caprising]

.com/chak (http://www.crystalinks.com/chakras.html)http://www.crystalinks (http://www.crystalinks.com/chakras.html)ras.html (http://www.crystalinks.com/chakras.html) a useful link to get people started

FleaXX

Great link Flea, I even visited the "unexplainable store" and downloaded the free Binaural/Monaural beats and the Isochrinic tones, well worth a look/listen.

[flea]

cool thx for the tip xx

[Caprising]

Still following?

Men practice Tantric, that is, the control of Orgasm, to mimic the Woman's Body. During the Sex Act, he allows himself to experience pleasure outside of the act of Orgasm and inevitably reproduction. He brings himself to the point of Orgasm, and allows himself to plateau there, eventually being able to maintain a meditative state that allows him to experience the total-body pleasure that a Woman has from Orgasm, and the experience of sexual pleasure outside of reproduction/ejaculation. Like the Woman, he is able to control his sexual experience, thereby not inevitably ejaculating and givng all of his energy to her.

They share.

it's nice.

mod.

I have tried this technique, but at the time didn't know that it was a spiritual practice, I was just trying to extend the pleasure of lovemaking!....and at another time with a different partner I was "drained of energy" before orgasm, and I was getting "bad vibes" from her, maybe she was what they used to call a "vampire" :wink: