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Hi all
I need help! What' I'm after is some astrological advice on raising children.
My baby boy was born 7 days ago with the Moon at 28 Cancer. He's been very attached to his mom since he was born, he slept in the same bed with her during the stay in the hospital (4 days) and at home.
Relatives and friends advised to let him sleep alone in his little bed and not to keep him close always, as he will become too dependent of the comfort of being hold at any time he wishes so.
This is what happens now: he cries if the mommy goes in the other room and only stops if kept at the breast.
Tonight we decided to try to let him cry a for some time before running to help. Also tonight the transiting Moon (in Libra) squares for the first time the natal Moon, possibly representing the first emotional challange he has to face.
I'm wondering if you also made astrological observations and correlations of this type, also if you read some insightful books on this subject.
Many thanks.
milkywaygirl
08-01-2006, 12:15 AM
Hi all
I need help! What' I'm after is some astrological advice on raising children.
My baby boy was born 7 days ago with the Moon at 28 Cancer. He's been very attached to his mom since he was born, he slept in the same bed with her during the stay in the hospital (4 days) and at home.
Relatives and friends advised to let him sleep alone in his little bed and not to keep him close always, as he will become too dependent of the comfort of being hold at any time he wishes so.
This is what happens now: he cries if the mommy goes in the other room and only stops if kept at the breast.
Tonight we decided to try to let him cry a for some time before running to help. Also tonight the transiting Moon (in Libra) squares for the first time the natal Moon, possibly representing the first emotional challange he has to face.
I'm wondering if you also made astrological observations and correlations of this type, also if you read some insightful books on this subject.
Many thanks.
congratulations on your baby!! that is amazing news. if he is only 7 days old i dont think you should really worry too much about him becoming dependent on someone just yet (maybe save that for when he can actually understand whats going on around him), and just give him as much love and attention as he wants! at 7 days old all your little baby knows is his mum and where his food comes from so it would be really odd if he didnt cry when she wasnt around!
Cassie Priam
08-01-2006, 10:40 AM
Congratulations on the birth of your child. As parents we all worry about out kids! Welcome to parenthood!
Baby sounds like he is doing just fine, attaching to his mother. That is what
he is supposed to do! They sound like they will have a close bond. Very good.
Take some deep breaths and try to stay calm and relax! Enjoy the little fellow. Tell your wife to use her mother's intuition to determine what is best for her baby.
Hi Radu :)
I don't have children, and this isn't an astrological answer, but my instinct says: enjoy being able to be there for him while you can! He'll grow up fast enough, and start looking outside the comfort of his parent's arms :D It sounds like you don't really want to leave him to cry, and that it's the advice that makes you feel that you should.
I recently read an article in new scientist 'disproving' the theory that babies can be 'weaned' into not crying. Especially at a young age, the more you hold your child, the happier she or he is. If so-called scientific evidence helps, then there it is!
I've watched my mum with my neices and nephews, and I know for sure that she was a 'hands on' parent, all the way. Perhaps that's where my conviction comes from ;)
Miss Saturn
08-01-2006, 12:41 PM
Congratulations Radu,
Get ready for the roller coaster ride of parenthood. Enjoy all the time your baby is sleeping now because soon enough he will be running round and you will be absolutely shattered. I don't know where babies get all their energy from.
On the sleep problem my baby wouldn't sleep with me in my bed he prefers his own cot he sleeps better in there. He is such a wriggler in bed anyway. My son is Ten months and I tried a few times with him to sleep in my bed especially when he was teething, to try and comfort him, but he didn't like it and he swings his arms everywhere I would end up black and blue if he slept in my bed. (my son has a Capricorn Moon maybe this is why he likes his own sleeping space.) With your son having a Cancer Moon he may be more sensitive to being left by his mother, but all babies are like this. You and his mum are his world it is hard to leave them to sleep alone.
Babies really don't get into a sleep pattern till about 7 to 8 wks so your baby will sleep for a longer period in the night. Suddenly they will sleep for six to seven hours in one go. You are so used to him waking up every 3 to 4hrs for a feed. But this should start to extend in the night time in another few weeks. What I had to do to get my son in a night time sleep pattern is extend the morning feed each time by 10 minutes, this way his body changed and he wouldn't feel hungry and wake up for a feed so early in the morning. Try to stretch the feed to about six in the morning or whatever time suits you. I got him in a sleep pattern where he went to bed at 7pm and woke at 6am in the morning.
The crying method does work but can be very hard so extend the crying gradually.
The sleep will at times go right out the window, when they are teething or feeling unwell, but as soon as this passes, you should be able to return to your routine.
This is all easier said than done because it is hard training them to sleep, and only do what you feel comfortable with. There will come a time he will have to learn to go to sleep on his own without bodily contact, because however much you love your baby, you will need time to yourselves as a couple as well.
But enjoy every minute of it my prayers are with you when your son starts teething he he :D Get used to bags under your eyes. I'm only joking I know full well those sleepless nights and I hate to see my son when he is teething because there is only so much you can do. You just have to comfort them through it, and stock your cupboard full of calpol and teething gel it is a godsend. I only joke because it can be stressful at times, but if you keep strong as a couple you can get through it.
Enjoy your little Angel you will be amazed by how much love you feel for your baby. God bless him.
Miss S
Virinchi
08-01-2006, 01:10 PM
congrats !
i think its too early to make him independent.
let him enjoy the comfort of care and attention for few months..let him grow by himself
Ok, guys another issue. The baby loves eating for a long time, for hours. And while doing it, he seems really excited, crying and shaking of unpatience to receive the wonderous liquid.
ASC in Taurus, with Venus in Cancer in trine with Jupiter - this sounds to me like the astrological signature of a gourmand. Do you have any comments on this one?
Also he's got the Moon in Cancer, so he probably really loves his mommy and adores staying with her.
I hope he'll not become a overweight person, although at 3 weeks he's already above the average for his age.
Here's the chart data: 25 July 2006, 12:58 am EED, Tirgu Mures, Romania (46n34, 24e35).
johan
08-17-2006, 01:01 PM
Radu,I think while it is a trine the assimilation of food will go easy,if it was a square it would be different(a square is often a sign of danger of diabetes).
You also have Moon in Cancer(me too:) ),where you more attached to your mother than your father?I know I was...
Lot of joy and happiness with your child,daddy...
Sanem
08-17-2006, 01:03 PM
I am a bit late to participate in this thread, but I would like to share some thoughts none the less:
- I don't have any children (yet), so I have little practical experience to share. I was told from an Energy school of thought that young children need the energy of their mother, for its healing and nurturing effect, so the closer you keep him the better (not sure if I will like that idea so much when I have young ones of my own :rolleyes: ).
- I am however also a Cancer Moon; I read it is a good idea to give the child enough loving, or his oversensitivity might backfire. Which apparantly happend to me, but that is what you get for being a heavy Capricorn.
- I also have a strong interest for physical/emotional development, and it is my understanding that children tend to develop emotional patterns very early on.
- But like I said, I hardly concider myself an expert on raising kids, and I am sure you will find out a good way to raise him.
...The baby loves eating... ASC in Taurus, with Venus in Cancer in trine with Jupiter - this sounds to me like the astrological signature of a gourmand. Do you have any comments on this one?
Lol, I am also a Taurus with Jupiter in first house, and I have started getting fatter as of late and am enjoying it, so good luck is all I can say :D.
Btw, very practical advice from Miss Saturn, compliments to her (I have my Moon in Cancer in 7th: I myself am attracted to motherly figures).
Light
08-17-2006, 10:08 PM
Congratulations on the little one.
Someone passed on wise words to me when I was worrying about the same thing...
Don't worry about what the books say.....Your baby hasn't read them yet! :) :) :)
The same goes for what other people say..
Don't worry too much, just enjoy him as he is - the time will pass all too quickly.
The best book has got to be Toddler Taming. I forget who it's by. A bit to far for now, but by Christmas you'll appreciate the humour and be prepared for next summer!!
Moon in Cancer, Venus in Cancer trine Jupiter? He'll be attracted to a curvaceous down to earth Archelogist/historian in a restaurant on a long haul flight/cruise?!!!:rolleyes: Or he'll keep large snakes as pets. Don't worry about his weight at this stage, give it at least another....10 minutes:eek: . You never stop worrying about children, and they haven't read the instruction manual.
Congratulations, again.
All the best to you and your family
light
Francesca
08-18-2006, 01:32 AM
I take it he is being fed at the breast. His behavior sounded like he wasn't getting enough milk, but you say he is above average in weight, so that can't be it. As long as he is not making mother's breasts sore and is gaining weight I wouldn't worry too much. Be sure he is paying attention to nursing or you can remove the breast, as sometimes babies just want to hang out.
If he is really taking over the poor mother's waking hours, you might have to be firm. Is he actually gaining weight or is he just a big baby? That's a clue as to whether he's successfully feeding or just "loafing".
Back in 1972, breastfeeding was not very popular here in upstate NY. The pediatrition screamed at me when I told him I wanted to breastfeed, Not a good way to start out. Now we have nursing coaches over here that work with new mother's to overcome problems like these.
I think you must be a very loving and responsible father, Radu, but stop worrying so much, and enjoy.
Thanks to all for your support :)
Ok, so toddler taming :rolleyes: I could try to do that :)
He is currently breastfed at request, as modern books on the subject say; were're trying to adhere to the best practices.
I don't worry that much, he's got the Moon in Cancer ruling the 4th in the 4th house - what more could one want? The Moon hasn't any squares or oppositions. This is just perfect for a fulfilling, wonderful childhood so there should be no problems with that.
Now I'm starting to worry about his career :D
Now I'm starting to worry about his career :D
Oh my oh my, I can't help myself...Radu you are so **** cute!! I hope the father of my children is just as dedicated and caring as you are ;)
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Light
08-18-2006, 01:51 PM
Don't they say you're not supposed to look at a child's chart until they are at least 8? ;)
Seriously though, if he's feeding for hours and is very excited about it, he may not be getting enough. Don't be afraid to supplement it with a bottle. The trouble is these days, breast feeding is pushed far too much, often to the expense of the health of both mother and baby. Trust me - this comes from experience. :mad: My daughter used to feed for hours, too. What was sleep more than an hour? It put too much strain on me, and the more I suffered the more she suffered. I feel so guilty about that, even now. Contrary to what the books say, you can mix and match. Don't be afraid to give him a bottle, it will allow your wife to 'recharge' too. Afterall, he has had the very best start with the breast. Good luck.
BTW, I think learning astrology is easier than learning about a new baby:D . That is one humungous vertical learning curve!! Just when you think you have it sorted, they grow and the goal posts move and you have to start all over again on the next level. :) They're fun though.
Enjoy yourselves, and good luck
hel
Where's the piccy's? How many films/Gigabytes have you taken???
Alright, here's a piccy as per requested
http://www.publicupload.com/files/stefan.jpg
Girls out there please don't email, don't call, he's not interested (yet).
Francesca
08-19-2006, 12:42 AM
They smell so good, they feel so good, they make my oxytocin meter jump! Just looking at him makes me want to smooch him to pieces. What a cutie!
He's raising his head very well for his age, isn't he?
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