2012 and the return of Quetzalcoatl

[milkywaygirl]

"I'm all verklempt, talk amongst yourselves, I'll give you a topic..." -Linda Richman, CoffeeTalk

[milkywaygirl]

kind of surprised that no one has anything to say about 2012, and the fact that our sun will be lining up with the centre of the milky way and consequently the black hole at the centre of our galaxy, something that hasnt happened in someting like 28,500 years.

i have been reading all about the significance of 2012 in its relations to ancient cultures and beliefs specifically the mayans, the development of humanity and human consciousness, the explorations of greater truths by shamans, crop circles, alien abductions, different energy entities, psychic development, how our pituitary glands will be directly affected by the changed magnetic force of the sun, the development of the noosphere, archetypes and their power...as well as all the doomsayer stuff about how the earth will flip on its axis, floods and rapid climate changes, etc etc...

i would love to hear others input on this subject! i'm just learning about it from all different angles right now and dont really have a definitive opinion about it.

[Arian Maverick]

Milkywaygirl,

Perhaps can you provide some links to the information you have been reading? I would love to contribute to this thread, but I cannot even pronounce Quetzalcoatl! :p

Arian Maverick

[milkywaygirl]

http://www.amazon.com/2012-Return-Quetzalcoatl-Daniel-Pinchbeck/dp/1585424838
http://www.greatdreams.com/2012.htm
http://www.cabiz.net/zolaric/2012.htm
http://www.halexandria.org/dward415.htm

[milkywaygirl]

oops in my haste i posted a chart an hour off... here is the accurate one

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n218/milkywaygirl_2006/2012-1.gif



check out the yod, the biggest orb on it is the sextile between pluto and saturn, of 17 seconds.



chiron in pisces:
If Chiron falls in Pisces in your chart, you bear the pain of losing your faith. At some time in your life, you have been let down by the world or by some belief you had held very dearly. You may become bitter and close off your once very open heart, wanting to avoid any further pain of disappointment. At the heart of Pisces is belief and faith and a need to follow intuition and understand deeply the motivations of human nature and the universe. When Chiron is in Pisces, though, disillusionment or betrayal undermines your connection to the universe, making you cold and untrusting. Rather than turning your back on your beliefs, Chiron in Pisces compels you to realize that things happen for a reason. Once you realize that your suffering is not in vain, that losing your faith can actually enrich it, you open yourself (and your wound) up to the world and share what you have learned from your pain. Give your time to causes that nourish our faith in humanity and in higher purposes or to groups that reconnect us to either the spiritual or natural world

[milkywaygirl]

check out neptune and chiron in pisces conjunct the ascendant, aquarius intercepted in the 12th (and leo intercepted in the 6th), pluto and mars in the 11th, sun on the cusp of sag and cap, the 2nd house encompassing all of taurus and the 8th all of scorpio.. this is a pretty interesting chart!

[Light]

Wasn't there a thread touching this by kite or baui? I remember reading it, but I can't find it now. :( Miss Moderator, please can you put me out of my misery? Pretty please? I can't get the search to throw up anything. I distinctly remember reading it.

light

[Arian Maverick]

Wasn't there a thread touching this by kite or baui? I remember reading it, but I can't find it now. Miss Moderator, please can you put me out of my misery? Pretty please? I can't get the search to throw up anything. I distinctly remember reading it.

light

Perhaps this may be the thread you were referring to...? :confused:

Mayan Elder Speaks: The How and Why of The End Date in 2012 (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1011)

Arian Maverick

[Light]

Sorry, AM that wasn't the one. It did have some interesting information that I had forgotten, though. The other thread had some mythology type observations about the history and the return. I'll keep searching.

thanks anyway

light

Just how is Quetzalcoatl pronounced? Anybody?

light

[Light]

I found it :)

it's halfway down page 2 on the ET thread


ET & the Age of Aquarius (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1167&page=2)

If that doesn't work - its on the ET thread!!

light

[milkywaygirl]

Sorry, AM that wasn't the one. It did have some interesting information that I had forgotten, though. The other thread had some mythology type observations about the history and the return. I'll keep searching.

thanks anyway

light

Just how is Quetzalcoatl pronounced? Anybody?

light

kwet-zal-coat-ull

[Empath]

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.

Quetzalcoatl

SYLLABICATION: Quet·zal·co·a·tl
PRONUNCIATION: kt-sälk-ätl Quetzalcoatl {keht-sahl-coh'-atl} Aztec
NOUN: Mythology A god of the Toltecs and Aztecs, one of the manifestations of the sun god Tezcatlipoca and represented as a plumed serpent.

[milkywaygirl]

http://www.matrixmasters.com/podcasts/index.html

here is a link to a talk given by daniel pinchbeck at the last burning man on the ideas in his book "2012: the return of quetzalcoatl" as well as his extended thoughts on the meaning and impact that this upcoming time will have on humanity. a great listen!

[Light]

Thanks for the pronouciations. It's so obvious when you see it, but not how I was trying to pronounce it! :o

If Quetzalcoatl has something to do with venus shouldn't we be looking at the venus transit in June rather than the end of the calendar in December?

Venus and the return of quetzacotl (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/www.astrologycom.com/quetzalcoatl2.html)

At 11:11 that day, Pluto is conj the moon, Venus is conj the sun and inconjunct the other - they both don't know what's going on! A sort of back door entry?

just an idea

light

[Claire19]

I have never heard Quetzacoatl spoken so I dont know how to pronounce it either. When they say that 2012 will be a time for polar flips etc. Well, it has happened before and no doubt will happen again. I have read that Quetzacoatl was Jesus when he was a missionary or prophet in Central and South America during his many travels. He has been described as white, bearded with the reddish hair that Jesus had. They obviously think that he will return as so do many other cultures but I wonder for what purpose and would he be recognised?

I think that time as we know it may change and the Earth may go to a different vibrational level with all the consequences. It is fascinating to contemplate and as I have no fear of "death" and know that we go on in different forms, it doesnt frighten me.

THere was supposed to be a cataclysmic line up of planets on 5th May 2000 if I remember rightly and nothing happened. There was gloom and doom predicted by the soothsayers and psychics. I think there is much misinterpretation going on.

Claire

[Kite]

OK let's get this party started once again. Quetzalcoatl is the Mayan deity of the plumed serpant. This reflects the lower material aspects of our being with the higher spiritual aspects. Think of this as the lower and higher aspects of Scorpio - the scorpion and the eagle.

The serpent is always shedding his skin which Quetzalcoatl prompts the initate to do as all things no longer needed to reach the higher ascpects and marriage between the material and spiritual are eliminated.

It is said that Quetzalcoatl is connected with or actually the manifestation of the Christ Consciousness but using different langauge to speak of this sacred marriage and alchmical experience.

For more on Alchemy, 2012, the underlying astrology, Kabbalah and prophesis associated with this, view this short film by one of my favorite writers, Jay Weidner at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1354807147788514326&q=the+great+cross+and+the+end+of+time&hl=en

Caveat: I don't agree with the outcome portrayed in the film but feel the information contained is well worth the view.

Kite

[unukalhai]

THere was supposed to be a cataclysmic line up of planets on 5th May 2000 if I remember rightly and nothing happened. There was gloom and doom predicted by the soothsayers and psychics. I think there is much misinterpretation going on.


I think you are referring to the stellium in Taurus, with Sun/Mercury/Venus/Jupiter/Saturn, in quincunx to Pluto/Chiron, with Pluto forming exact 8th harmonic aspects to the nodes. Also lined up with the Saturn/Uranus square.

I think what people fail to realize is these patterns, in most cases, indicate releases of energy that gradually take effect. In the sea of time and space, the waves only crash on the shore so fast.

More so, people have a natural tendency towards gloom and doom, some scared of it, some hoping for it.

[Kite]

This is an interesting take on 2012

http://www.salrachele.com/webchannelings/foundersontheprecessionandgalacticcycle.htm

The Founders on the Precession and Galactic Cycle
Received by Sal Rachele
November 12, 2005

Greetings, beloved Creators. Today we will speak on the relationship between the precession of the Earth’s axis and the changes to the electromagnetic field of your Earth. This is a fairly complicated topic and we ask you to read and digest this slowly. We will do our best to keep things simple. Hence, we will go as slowly as possible for maximum comprehension. Please forgive us if we repeat this in different ways after you have comprehended it.

All planetary bodies are electromagnetic (EM) in nature. In the works of your metaphysical scientist David Wilcock [www.ascension2000.com (http://www.ascension2000.com/)] there is a description of the toroidal nature of planets and planetoids. A torus is similar to a spherical “doughnut”, with holes connecting the poles of the magnet. Imagine the Earth (shaped slightly like a pear) with a core hole drilled from pole to pole (similar to the way a machine can take the core out of a piece of fruit). The electromagnetic energy of the Earth spins through this channel between the poles, then out and about the external surface at the major and minor grid lines. The Convergence material of Mr. Wilcock gives some diagrams of this. You can also look up discussions on EM fields on your Internet and find diagrams of the EM field of Earth using the torus model.

[............contd @ the aforementioned link]
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