Good or bad chart

[Backy]

http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_wgw__biki_bikic_hp.25790.8165.gif&res=63&va=&cid=h3mfileMYlyHY-u1269155168 (http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_wgw__biki_bikic_hp.81676.5033.gif&res=63&va=&cid=h3mfileMYlyHY-u1269155168)
Is this chart generally good or not?

Now, i am not interested in predictions.......though i don't like that there are many "red" lines here :sad:

And this square between the ruler of AC (Mercury) and the ruler of 7th house (Sagittarius) indicares short life, that is at least what a professional astrologer told me. And he has MANY examples.......that is why i was that obssesed with death in the previous topics.

What is your opinion about this?

[lillyjgc]

Backy,
My friend with h7 ruler square h1 ruler turned 60 today.For every example your so called *professional astrologer* can give you about this aspect causing a short life, I can find charts of people over 60 with those same aspects. And what about young people who die who don't have that square? I have plenty of charts on that subject too.
I think you need to develop a more critical mind when it comes to what and who you believe, especially on the Internet.
Lilly

[astro09]

Backy,


Relax. The death issue involves multiple factors. I do not think that a hard aspect between the 1st H ruler and the 7th has a meaningful weight on death. This by itself makes me wonder about the usefulness of whatever was you were told.


The aspects between 1st and 7th H Rulers speaks of the partnerships (love, business), open enemies…and at least for some people, your astrologer!!!. So if you have a hard aspect (square) your potential leans toward that: hard times-- in those areas—with your astrologer. I wonder if that aspect was activated when you had that consultation.


Long time ago I learn that there are neither good charts nor bad charts; there are just charts. Besides, I am of the school of thoughts that your chart contains the aspects that your soul can manage; it does not matter whether squares are the predominant aspect. Life may be tough but your soul is even tougher. So, no matter how difficult your walk through life may be, you have your own inner resources that will sustain you when walking through life …making ways…

[astrologer50]

http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_wgw__biki_bikic_hp.81676.5033.gif&res=63&va=&cid=h3mfileMYlyHY-u1269155168

Is this chart generally good or not?

Now, i am not interested in predictions.......though i don't like that there are many "red" lines here :sad:

And this square between the ruler of AC (Mercury) and the ruler of 7th house (Sagittarius) indicares short life, that is at least what a professional astrologer told me. And he has MANY examples.......that is why i was that obssesed with death in the previous topics.

What is your opinion about this?

This question of death has been more than amply covered by 53responses in your earlier threads -- so I won't waste any time on it only to say no one can predict the time or age of death:wink:

If you want to 'learn' about astrology you have definately come to the right place here and you say about all those red lines -- perhaps you need to start from the beginning and research what those red lines mean :innocent:

If you intend to learn about astrology, you will need to begin with a natal chart, it need not necessarily be your own, but many choose to begin this way, in an effort to better understand their own life journey, and purpose. Astrological natal charts are as individual as a persons ‘fingerprints’ depending on where (latitude & longitude) and time of birth.It is important to get your *time of your birth* as this is the most important information.

Here are my personal recommend beginners links to focus upon Natal charts:-
I hope that you come here and want to learn about astrology and join in with exchanges. There ever expanding Education forum here and lots more to explore. http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12556 (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12556) http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TOClessons.htm (http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TOClessons.htm)
http://wilsontc.stormloader.com#continue (http://wilsontc.stormloader.com/#continue)
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natalastrology.html (http://www.cafeastrology.com/natalastrology.html)
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/astrology-lessons.php (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/astrology-lessons.php)
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/inner-outer.php (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/inner-outer.php)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planets_in_astrolgy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planets_in_astrolgy)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_sign (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_sign)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect)
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html (http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natal_astrology#Aspect_patterns (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natal_astrology#Aspect_patterns)

House systems
Lots of people that come into Astrology get their free charts calculated at www.astro.com (http://www.astro.com/) and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all that there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few more.

Throughout the forums but mainly in natal astrology there are two main branches Placidus (unequal size houses) v Equal House (whereby each house is same size) but lots more……. For more information on these go here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_house_system#Equal_House (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_house_system#Equal_House)
http://www.astrolozy.com/article19.asp (http://www.astrolozy.com/article19.asp)
http://www.skyviewzone.com/birthinfoforms2/housesexplained.htm (http://www.skyviewzone.com/birthinfoforms2/housesexplained.htm)
For further research try here...
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3280&highlight=placidus+equal (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3280&highlight=placidus+equal)
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=638&highlight=house+system (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=638&highlight=house+system)
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=152849#post152849 (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=152849#post152849)
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=189223#post189223 (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=189223#post189223)


It's only with study and research will you be able to assess where your planets are deposited and in which houses... thus see which 'glove fits'

[dhundhun]

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Is this chart generally good or not?

Now, i am not interested in predictions.......though i don't like that there are many "red" lines here :sad:

And this square between the ruler of AC (Mercury) and the ruler of 7th house (Sagittarius) indicares short life, that is at least what a professional astrologer told me. And he has MANY examples.......that is why i was that obssesed with death in the previous topics.

What is your opinion about this?

This is very good, chart - very, very good for rise in life. What are you doing? - Just want to confirm reading - although you are too young to confirm.

Chart promises enterprenuireship.

[Backy]

Phew, and i thought it was quite a bad chart, but i said i don't know much about astrology, and i guess i am paranoid by nature, so please forgive me :lol:

Well, it is true that i do have a lot of luck in my life, and i DO have quite a high reputation in some places, and some believe that i am way smarter for my age than many people think(though that is not on me to judge :lol: ).

Can something interesting be seen here(qualities, some weaknesses)?

What are you doing? - Just want to confirm reading?Well, i am a student right now, i am studying management :wink:

On the other hand, i was supposed to have two brothers, and both of them died upon birth unfortunately, i am the only one who survived...

[Backy]

So you could very well get the full 120 years, which is considered the maximum human lifespan from an astrological point of view.

Wow........now THAT would be life! Though i don't think i will last that long lol :lol: Maybe it would be even too much.

It's good that i have a strong hyleg, and a good chart, that cheered me up, but i'll still be careful like always, since ok, it's clear that it's hard to predict the age of death, and yeah it's not good to be very self-confident regarding this question, i could get hit by a car if i stop paying attention to it, using common sense :smile:

But thanks a lot, it's nice to know that :lol:

[tanamarios]

Wow........now THAT would be life! Though i don't think i will last that long lol :lol: Maybe it would be even too much.

It's good that i have a strong hyleg, and a good chart, that cheered me up, but i'll still be careful like always, since ok, it's clear that it's hard to predict the age of death, and yeah it's not good to be very self-confident regarding this question, i could get hit by a car if i stop paying attention to it, using common sense :smile:

But thanks a lot, it's nice to know that :lol:

that's the attitude that you need to pursue Blacky.

[Backy]

Ok, i listened to your advice, and wanted to break up with this astrologer, he was like "There needs to be one more thing in a chart so that the ruler of h1 and h7 can bring you what i said, and you don't have that"(though i didn't tell him my EXACT birth time, that is, he is using like i am born on 9:00 :lol:) " And then no reply of him. I asked him before what are the good things and bad things in the chart (not something like a prediction but some of my qualities, etc......) and are hyleg and alcocoden strong in my chart, and he seemed like he was calucalting something, and didn't say anything.

Well, i won't bother him anymore. Though this isn't the same guy that wrote all that Pluto **** before. This guy is a traditional astrologer, and he doesn't use Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, True nodes, either.......just the classical planets. He believes he can predict death accurately using hyleg and alcocoden, though i didn't want a "sesion" for that.

I am interested in one more question generally that many people are arguing about. How huge is a role of free will in our life, and does that depend from the chart? His opinion (which i don't agree with, but can't know either, since i am a beginner) is that if in someone's chart it says he won't get married, than he can try as much as he likes, but there is no way he WILL get married in the end. That is something that is not logical for me, and especially if the client gets this info, i believe he would work hard in order to GET married, i can't believe that we can't change things like that. Or if my chart says that i will finish the uni, and now i stop studying because a chart told me i will finish it........well there is no way i could finish it then, no?

[dhundhun]

Well, i am a student right now, i am studying management :wink:


Good to know, this is stepping stone for entrepreneurship.

With the type of chart you have, people look forward and keep on working. There will be obstacles, but they don't lose heart, rather try to find out ways. This is very generic description but mostly describe you.

[Backy]

Good to know, this is stepping stone for entrepreneurship.

With the type of chart you have, people look forward and keep on working. There will be obstacles, but they don't lose heart, rather try to find out ways. This is very generic description but mostly describe you.

Thanks a lot :wink: